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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols & Paula Rooney

Microsoft partners to allow Eclipse interop on Win7, WinServer 2008 R2, Azure

By | October 28, 2009, 9:50am PDT

Microsoft has made another play at interoperability with a key open source software offering.

At Eclipse Summit Europe on Wednesday, the Redmond, Wash. software giant announced that it is working on four open source projects with two open source companies — Tasktop Technologies and Soyatec — to enable Eclipse users to develop on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Azure and Microsoft Silverlight.

TaskTop, of Canada, will provide enhancements to the Eclipse IDE in the first quarter of 2010, according to Microsoft’s interoperability blog.

“Microsoft and Tasktop will collaborate to extend the Eclipse Rich Client Platform (RCP), and in particular the Standard Widget Toolkit (SWT), to include the mapping of new features offered by Windows 7,” the blog reports. “This will allow Eclipse developers to take advantage of the new user interface features offered by Windows 7, directly from the Eclipse IDE and from any desktop applications built on top of the Eclipse platform.”

Microsoft also announced that partner Soyatec of France will develop Java and PHP interoperability tools for Eclipse that will enable development on Microsoft’s Windows Azure cloud computing platform and with Microsoft’s Silverlight IDE.

From the press release issued today, Soyatec will provide:

  • Windows Azure Tools for Eclipse, a new open source plug-in that will enable PHP developers using Eclipse to create web applications targeting Windows Azure.
  • Windows Azure Software Developer Kit (SDK) for Java, an open source project that consists of tools and resources to help bridge Java developers to Windows Azure.
  • Eclipse Tools for Silverlight, the release of version 1.0 of the Eclipse Silverlight plug-in, an open source, cross-platform plug-in for the Eclipse development environment that enables Eclipse developers to build Silverlight Rich Internet Applications (RIAs), and includes support for the Macintosh platform. The plug-in provides guidance for greater interoperability between Silverlight-based applications and Java-based web sites and web services, including REST, SOAP, JSON and other standards.

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Paula Rooney is a Boston-based writer who has followed the tech industry for almost two decades.

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Paula Rooney owns no stock in the companies that she covers. She holds a 401K that is managed by Morgan Stanley.

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Paula Rooney

Paula Rooney has covered the software and technology industry for more than 20 years, starting with semiconductor design and mini-computer systems at EDN News and later focused on PC software companies including Microsoft, Lotus, Oracle, Red Hat, Novell and other open source and commercial software companies for CRN and PCWeek. She received a silver award from the American Society of Business Publication Editors in 2005 for her profile on Linus Torvalds and edited and co-authored "Partnering With Microsoft," a book about Microsoft's channel published by CMP Publishing in 2004. Rooney graduated from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism in 1997. In her off time, she enjoys scuba diving, sailing, sun worshipping, running, reading, surfing (the net) and hanging out with her family. She resides on the shores of Scituate, Massachusetts.

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RE: Microsoft partners to allow Eclipse interop on Win7, WinServer 2008 R2, Azure
gaberdiye03 Updated - 22nd Jun
@IssacS Linux isn't worried about extending as per the MS model. Some *nix companies such as Novell and IBM may be thinking along those lines but Linux? Nope.

As a Debian user I'm not interested in Windows except where MS efforts to hamper or damage GNU/Linux are concerned. Then they should rightfully be opposed.

The writing is on the wall. Linux owns embedded and HPC. Current economic conditions will be a boon to Linux in the server room. MS risks being relegated to consumer desktop OS status.

MS has built some nice integration into it's line for the computing challenged but more and more the cost cannot be justified compared to much less pembe maske energy balance oyna oyunu moliva orjin krem tutune son nanomatik complex 41 new fx15expensive *nix solutions. Add to this Amazon and Google's cloud offerings and you have more alternatives which are less expensive.
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Eclipse should decline the 'plug ins'
Linux Geek 28th Oct 2009
M$ only ries to extend and extinguish here folks!
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Self interests always......
OhTheHumanity Updated - 28th Oct 2009
Isn't that what most things revolve around? I'm sure that if Linux had a chance to extend and draw to its platform by working with Microsoft it would, unless they are too stupid to get the big picture and turn down an advantage to themselves, which wouldn't suprise me with the elementary antics I see and hear from people like you. Keep shooting yourself in the foot and maybe someday you will just bleed to death. Some people and organizations need to grow up and I think Microsoft is working towards that grown up status so maybe you should think about it as well.
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Who?
Tim Patterson 29th Oct 2009
Linux isn't worried about extending as per the MS model. Some *nix companies such as Novell and IBM may be thinking along those lines but Linux? Nope.

As a Debian user I'm not interested in Windows except where MS efforts to hamper or damage GNU/Linux are concerned. Then they should rightfully be opposed.

The writing is on the wall. Linux owns embedded and HPC. Current economic conditions will be a boon to Linux in the server room. MS risks being relegated to consumer desktop OS status.

MS has built some nice integration into it's line for the computing challenged but more and more the cost cannot be justified compared to much less expensive *nix solutions. Add to this Amazon and Google's cloud offerings and you have more alternatives which are less expensive.
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Really?
IssacS 28th Oct 2009
No, and that is due to two things.
The first is that, dude it's a plugin... the onus is on Mircosoft and it's partners to keep up.
The second is for Azure to really take off like mircosoft hopes, they really need the open-source community to help them.

That doesn't mean that those in open-source trust Mircosoft intrinsically, but it does mean that Mircosoft is engaging with an environment that has few secrets (if any at all), so to keep engaging... it's going to have to put up and do good. That is a good thing.
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He is always trying to stir the pot.

And I agree with you, MS can only benefit if Open Source gets involved in Azure.
Here's something else for ya: Windows has been used many times over the years by criminals - murder, theft, larceny. That doesn't make Microsoft a party to those ipad bag blog sutudeg education news and pclos hwdb crimes. l
@IssacS Linux isn't worried about extending as per the MS model. Some *nix companies such as Novell and IBM may be thinking along those lines but Linux? Nope.

As a Debian user I'm not interested in Windows except where MS efforts to hamper or damage GNU/Linux are concerned. Then they should rightfully be opposed.

The writing is on the wall. Linux owns embedded and HPC. Current economic conditions will be a boon to Linux in the server room. MS risks being relegated to consumer desktop OS status.

MS has built some nice integration into it's line for the computing challenged but more and more the cost cannot be justified compared to much less pembe maske energy balance oyna oyunu moliva orjin krem tutune son nanomatik complex 41 new fx15expensive *nix solutions. Add to this Amazon and Google's cloud offerings and you have more alternatives which are less expensive.
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That's it
Tim Patterson 29th Oct 2009
Microsoft knows that their future depends on bringing the developers into their 'camp'.

Many devs prefer Eclipse. If MS can't bring devs into their VS ecosystem they will get their hooks into Eclipse.

MS is showing here that they have no problem undermining third party proprietary Windows apps to benefit themselves. One of the huge threats to MS is the existence of many quality free software apps which run on *nix. MS would love to see all of those FOSS apps ported to Windows also. This would bring the a large part of the allure of FOSS to Windows.

Most people who buy OEM boxes don't really see or think about the included cost of Windows. If all of the great FOSS apps like Amarok and K3b and Pidgin, etc...(to name a couple) were available to Windows users for free then why would they ever need to look at alternatives like Linux?

MS knows that they can't kill *nix but they are doing their best to try to marginalize it.
The plug-in provides guidance for greater interoperability between Silverlight-based applications and Java-based web sites and web services, including REST, SOAP, JSON and other standards. k
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Who is Linux?
IT_User 28th Oct 2009
And what big picture should "they" get? So many posters here seem to see Linux as some monolithic enemy threatening some position or rice bowl.

If I understand correctly, Linux as an organization tries to control and improve a kernel - that's it. There are businesses, like Red Hat, Novell, Canonical, Oracle, that market products and provide services based on that kernel, but I don't think there is a "Linux" that is trying to do what you suggest.
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Right....
OhTheHumanity 28th Oct 2009
I guess you don't know organizations like the FOSS. And don't try to act like they don't want to make Linux more visible, to say they are just updating a kernal is very ignorant. Who would want to work on something to never have it go anywhere in the world. I think all those that you just named play a part as well for the "big picture". Apply some common sense and you may actually get it.
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Ah, the serial killers
IT_User 28th Oct 2009
Of course, and I mistook them for businesses.

Silly me, of course you're right.
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Honestly....
OhTheHumanity 28th Oct 2009
Are you runnin on a 3rd grade education because that post made no sense at all. Read my post below and you will see I called that loon a schizophrenic, and I am guessing you aren't too far off either. Who cares if its a business or not, whoever has skin in the game wants to see it progress. I actually manage Linux systems and have no problem with them, I just hate seeing people act like children to make a point. Takes me back 25 years when I was a young buck on the playground.
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Oh no, not "the FOSS"
shis-ka-bob 28th Oct 2009
Who is this organization, 'the FOSS'? Is there some cabal of the Free
Software Foundation, the Apache Foundation, the University of California
Regents (who released BSD), the FreeBSD project, X.org? Maybe the
Electronic Freedom Foundation? Perhaps Canonical? IBM perchance? Is
Pentaho part of the FOSS? How about MIT, they released Kerberos under
the MIT license. I see a diverse group of organizations that compete and
cooperate with each other, but I don't see 'the FOSS'.
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Thanks....
OhTheHumanity 29th Oct 2009
For clearing it up for everyone, you nailed it.
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The answer...
jackbond 28th Oct 2009
Linux is an operating designed designed and used by
serial killers. In exchange for free software,
unsuspecting users subject themselves to built in
tracking software. There have been cases in
California, Massachusetts, and Utah where users
intended to purchase a Windows laptop but instead got
a Linux distribution pre-installed. By utilizing the
laptop's built in web camera and gps, a linux
programmer successfully tracked down, and killed his
unsuspecting victim. In all three cases, the
detectives investigating the cases stated unequivocally that had the users been running Windows,
they would still be alive.
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Oh, I see
NetArch. Updated - 28th Oct 2009
Just like we all know Glenn Beck didn't r@pe and kill a girl in 1990?

Is this some kind of Internet meme? It's be mentioned several times here in the comments at ZDNet's blog site, but I have yet to see anyone offer up some corroborating evidence. Links, please!

Here's something else for ya: Windows has been used many times over the years by criminals - murder, theft, larceny. That doesn't make Microsoft a party to those crimes. Why are you insinuating the same with Linux?

Sadly, the astroturfers, FUDsters and trolls are out in force this week. I guess all the positive press for the new Linux releases by Ubuntu, Fedora, Mandriva, etc. have you guys running scared.
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There's plenty of evidence...
jackbond 28th Oct 2009
Where will Hans Reiser be spending Halloween?
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Good, but lacking....
IssacS 28th Oct 2009
You raise a good point, BUT... as much as Hans Reiser will be spending the rest of his days in a cell, I would like to see what other names you can come up with.

So far, the pattern that you are suggesting doesn't exist
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Man....
OhTheHumanity 28th Oct 2009
You really get sucked into fiction journalism don't you? This goes to the previous poster as well about Linux and a serial killer. You people are a few branches shy of a tree. Your able to walk and talk, but not sure there is any critical thinking going on in the brain. Not sure who is running scared but sounds like both of you are paranoid schizophrenics to be honest.

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