Microsoft tea party against open source

Microsoft tea party against open source

Summary: If you have made your career drinking the Microsoft corporate Kool-Aid what is s going on in the market these days can seem absolutely maddening.

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This will be the last political point in this post.

If John McCain were President I doubt the Tea Party would be gaining much traction.

What some dub "the crazy" is a natural reaction to defeat. What's true in politics (George McGovern) can also be true in business, especially if the defeated army remains too big to circle the drain and disappear into bankruptcy.

In other words, people who drink the Kool-Aid can become frustrated by defeat and act out in funny ways. Even at Microsoft.

(Kool-Aid, which has been around since 1928, has become a political buzzword based on an unfortunate incident the company had nothing to do with. Kids love Kool-Aid, and if you buy the packets you can control the sugar dose.)

Anyway, back to Microsoft. Windows Mobile is being crushed by Google Android. Governments are rejecting Microsoft in favor of open source. Microsoft Azure is nothing next to Amazon's EC2 cloud. Bing!

If you have made your career drinking the corporate Kool-Aid (and Redmond can be pretty isolated from the rest of the computing universe) what's going on in the market these days can seem absolutely maddening.

Hence the crazy.

Notice that both these people are Microsoft careerists. Ellawala, a Stanford grad, has been with Microsoft for 11 years and it's her second employer. Rincon, a Harvard man, started at Unisys. Both joined Microsoft when it was on top. Neither is responsible for what has happened since.

There's a "mandate of heaven" aspect to technology that can be scary for those involved in it. MySpace once had that mandate, but lost it to Facebook. Yahoo once had it but lost to Google. IBM lost it to Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't have it any more.

Can Microsoft recover its mandate? Not with the crazy.

Topics: Open Source, Microsoft

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  • On target Dana. MS? They be crazy mon.

    nt
    Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate
    • Like every socialism pipe dream ...

      You leave it alone then it just collapses onto itself as we've seen it in Soviet Unions. China saw the writings on the wall and switched to capitalism just in time to get through.

      There is no need for MSFT to fight FOSS. Just leave it alone and you know what is going to happen next.
      LBiege
      • Like every teabagger response ...

        [i]You leave it alone then it just collapses onto itself as we've seen it in Soviet Unions. China saw the writings on the wall and switched to capitalism just in time to get through.[/i]

        Oh spare us the trickle-down platitudes, puh-leease...
        ahh so
      • RE: Microsoft tea party against open source

        @LBiege I'd rather march with Jon Stewart than Glenn Beck, yes. I don't think you're Hitler.
        DanaBlankenhorn
      • RE: Microsoft tea party against open source

        @LBiege <br><br>The problem is, like some Americans you really don't understand socialism or mixed economies where it is rightly assumed that the government should be responsible for basic infrastructure and support. In a mixed economy, you evaluate things for their benefits rather than which side of an ideological divide they fall on. This means I believe FOSS is important as a safety net, but it falls well short when used in critical applications. I don't reject it because of its socialist agenda - in fact I applaud it.<br><br>However,<br><br>"Anyway, back to Microsoft. Windows Mobile is being crushed by Google Android. Governments are rejecting Microsoft in favor of open source. Microsoft Azure is nothing next to Amazons EC2 cloud. Bing!"<br><br>I'm sorry, who's drinkiing the Kool-Aid?<br><br>I'm beginning to suspect that someone who is such an advocate of FOSS, doesn't really spend much time using it. Except for a few exceptions (where the so-called OSS is supported by a proprietary company) OSS quality is all over the place. Enthusiasm is not the same as competence.

        And if I wasn't in Australia, (where the GFC was barely noticed) I'd be joining Jon Stewart on 10.30.10 ;-)
        tonymcs@...
      • RE: Microsoft tea party against open source

        @tonymcs

        Regarding socialism and government imagine me in the private sector asking for a budget of 700 grand dollars and then failing to deliver, I'd then get a big fat pink slip right smack on my face. That's how things work in the private sector where accountability & discipline among other capitalism factors are enforced.

        Only in a big fat socialistic government where you could spend 700 BILLION stimulus dollars on broken promises and still had the nerve to come out padding yourself on the back, claiming "not my fault and I'd like to keep spending (someone else' money)".

        That's the difference between us conservatives and them parasite progressives.
        LBiege
      • Jon Stewart march?

        @DanaBlankenhorn<br><br>So what will be you guys' rally calls, Dana? Hmmm, let me guess:<br><br>"More welfare please!!"<br><br>"I spend. You pay!!"<br><br>"Unemployment benefit to infinity!!"<br><br>"Proud to be a grasshopper!!"<br><br>"Keep robbing the grandkids!!"<br><br>"Someone pays my mortgage!!"<br><br>"Free lunch forever!!"<br><br>"Someone pays my everything!!"<br><br>... ...<br><br><br>Will I see some calls for self-reliance or fiscal responsibility in there? Probably no more likely than seeing pigs flying in the sky.
        LBiege
      • RE: Microsoft tea party against open source

        @LBiege Actually I see MSFT more like the communist block since it's dominance was predicated on a monopoly. The source of the monopoly is dying so like the Roman Empire, Communist block etc it has started in terminal decline.
        INGOTIAN
      • RE: Microsoft tea party against open source

        @LBiege

        "There is no need for MSFT to fight FOSS. Just leave it alone and you know what is going to happen next.

        That's the difference between us conservatives and them parasite progressives."

        Whoah, did you miss the mark. I am both a tea-bagger and a Linux user. I use Linux because I value freedom. I am a tea-bagger because I value freedom.

        Linux and conservatism are not mutually exclusive.
        djohnston11@...
      • RE: Microsoft tea party against open source

        @LBiege The funny thing is, I've heard people refer to open source as socialist, fascist, anarchist, communist, etc. About the only thing the anti-open source people can agree on is that they don't like OSS, even if they can't agree on why they don't like it.
        Third of Five
      • RE: Microsoft tea party against open source

        @LBiege In other news, socialism is saving US banks, hospitals, world biggest companies etc etc.

        Communism and socialism should never be mistaken to same thing. Not even USA has a real capitalism, but a twisted version from it what only cause richer to get richer and control the markets. There is no competition, there is no teamwork, there is almost a total control by companies and even governments needs to knee under big companies.
        Fri13
    • RE: Microsoft tea party against open source

      @Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate Yours appears to be a minority opinion. Many don't understand I'm pointing to frustration from executives, nothing more.
      DanaBlankenhorn
  • Yes, the crazy open source attacks here on ZDNet are pretty funny.

    A lot of desperation.
    DonnieBoy
  • It is like the.....

    dictator just before he is deposed. ;-)
    Economister
  • Tea Party = Republican Takeover

    Tea Party is an attempt by Fox presenters to take over the Republican party.
    Fox want to whitewash the Bush presidency and install Bush mk 2 in power: Glenn Beck as George Bush and Bill O'Reilly as Dick Cheney.

    Their rally got less than 80k visitors, yet they presented it as 500k to give a false impression of strength when they really are weak.

    MS claimed 300k downloads of their phone SDK. But that seems equally delusional and equally designed to give a false impression of strength where there is weakness.
    guihombre
    • Fact check

      The police estimated the crowd at 300,000. But even 80,000 is an awfully impressive number, far more than most rallies that get huge press.
      frgough
      • RE: Microsoft tea party against open source

        @frgough How many might a Microsoft rally bring? An anti-Microsoft rally?
        DanaBlankenhorn
      • RE: Microsoft tea party against open source

        Dana --
        Neither a pro- nor an anti-Microsoft rally would draw anywhere CLOSE to 80,000 (let alone 300,000) people.

        Tech blog/message board flame wars notwithstanding, tea partiers and their opposite numbers on the left are concerned about issues that really matter. Whether or not you agree with a particular demonstrator, the political and moral future of our country is a far more important matter than whether or not an individual or company chooses Microsoft software, or any proprietary vs. open source software, for that matter.

        Most computer users have probably never even HEARD or READ the term "open source." Only a small fraction who HAVE heard of open source know or care what it's all about.

        Open source vs. proprietary certainly has political overtones; they're just not ones that 99% of people know or care about ... nor are they ones that would draw a large crowd at a public demonstration.
        Churlish
      • It was at least 500,000

        @guihombre

        Hey, moron. I was there, and there was at least 500,000 there. Plus, I spoke to the D.C. Police liaison, and that's what their official estimate was, too.
        SAStarling
  • learning how to give it away and make money

    microsoft's pricing is insane, and when they come to grips with how to produce an operating system that is cheap enough to use without all kinds of incentives and special deals they will make it. I doubt that that will happen. If microsoft wanted 50 dollars to upgrade my vista machine, I might go for it. 300 dollars, I might as well buy another machine with the os thrown in as a bonus. success breeds contempt, and microsoft has become quite out of touch with reality.
    sparkle farkle