Mozilla pushes out .Net incompatible Firefox 3.5

Mozilla pushes out .Net incompatible Firefox 3.5

Summary: Everything else is expected to work with the new Firefox except .Net, so it's ready not just for download but ready to be pushed out with notes to all clients urging them to get it?

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Firefox users got a surprise when they booted up this morning, a software update box for Firefox 3.5, "the most advanced Firefox yet."

A warning sticker at the bottom of the box notes that it will cause "some of your extensions and/or themes to stop working until they are updated."

This is common. Some of the add-ons I depend on, like the Google Toolbar, don't always follow a Firefox update right away.

But this list of incompatibilities carries just one name -- Microsoft .Net Framework Assistant 1.0.

Interesting. Everything else is expected to work with the new Firefox except .Net, so it's ready not just for download but ready to be pushed out with notes to all clients urging them to get it?

It's a nervy move, one certain to win applause from open source advocates and Microsoft haters. How ordinary users-on-the-street who consider Firefox "just another browser" will feel is a story well worth following up on.

So let's follow up. You there. You look like a user, on a street. Are you going to rush in where Microsoft angels fear to tread? I know I am.

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  • RE: Mozilla pushes out .Net incompatible Firefox 3.5

    Obviously this only affects Windows users, who have the totally cost-free option of creating a virtual machine running Ubuntu and using Firefox 3.5 with no need to worry about .Net.
    Real World
    • RE: Mozilla pushes out .Net incompatible Firefox 3.5

      So instead of running a browser that isn't compatible with .Net, you can fix it by running an operating system that isn't compatible with .Net?

      I love linux, but comments like this leave a bad taste for linux in my mouth.
      BimJ
      • What??

        In no way did my comment disparage Microsoft or any of their products. I was simply pointing out a risk- and cost-free way for people to avoid the .Net issue all together. If you use a site that must have .net support, use IE.

        Didn't have your coffee yet, did you?
        Real World
        • RE: Cost-free and Risk-free

          So your solution to a browser problem is to install a whole new OS. That sounds like the kind of solution the average Joe is looking for. That's like saying your timing belt broke, so we're going to drop a whole new engine in the car, and a different model engine at that. Look, if you love Linux, good for you, but the average user is going to look at this, and once someone explains the problem to them, they'll fire up their already installed IE, and tell Firefox to take a hike. Sorry, but I don't see this being the catalyst for a huge number of Ubuntu (or any other distro) installs.
          branchman67
          • Actually his solution is typical user sort of....

            I have seen people ready to buy a whole new computer because theirs had slowed to a crawl. It was filled with Spyware and they were unaware of what spyware was or how to fix it.
            mrlinux
          • Um

            <i>"once someone explains the problem to them, they'll fire up their already installed IE, and tell Firefox to take a hike."</i>

            Since when is it Mozilla's responsibility to make sure .net addon works in the new version. That would be like saying that MS is responsible to make sure FF works on Win 7, or Adobe to work on Win 7. MS is responsible to make there own add on work, not the other way around.
            xXSpeedzXx
          • But imagine the merciless attack...

            ..that Microsoft would get from the rabid, mindless anti-Microsoft drones if Firefox didn't work on Windows 7. Everyone expects Microsoft's OS's to run everything that's ever been written for any ancient version of Windows. If turnabout is fair play, then why shouldn't we expect other software (like Firefox) to work the same way?
            cornpie
          • Oh so you mean like when Vista came out

            when there were huge swaths of Software and Hardware incompatibilities.

            For hardware vendors it was because they didn't have drivers ready. MS fault? no.

            It is a major update, MS has to fix their own stuff.
            xXSpeedzXx
          • "the rabid, mindless anti-Microsoft drones" ???

            I have yet to meet one single anti-MS person who
            didn't have some very compelling reasons for
            being anti-MS.

            Mindless... No... Rabid, perhaps...

            Mindless is an adjective reserved for the rabid
            pro-MS fans. I have met pro-MS people who have no
            clue and are just trying to go with the flow...
            i8thecat
          • Poor M$ shills

            [i]I have yet to meet one single anti-MS person who didn't have some very compelling reasons for
            being anti-MS.[/i]

            I can sum mine up in one word: Vista
            Wintel BSOD
          • Taken by the Balls

            Problem is that MS-Office products have become business communication standards; everyone uses them in one way or another. And often when Microsoft introduces a new OS, its Office changes with it at near future. So, you're at the mercy of going with the flow that is dished up (or shoved into your throat) eventually. Have you tried using the MS-Office for MacBook for example? Yes you can take a word doc or excel spreadsheet that you?ve maid on Mac and open it with your PC versions and visa-versa. But they are in different formats and not so user friendly to do the transport/switching. It is in the same line, which had brought the congressional probing in the past, where you find yourself at the mercy of the giant?s dictate. Pay for my new product you so needy dependent meek. I?m no longer supporting the old ones.
            kro1
          • Well Microsoft does help them!

            They speak to 3rd party software houses all the time to help them make there software work better. Microsoft offered to help get Firefox to work better with Vista and the new security model.

            http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1000000121,39281655,00.htm

            planruse
          • A little unfair

            That would also be a little unfair. Microsoft has received criticism all the time because every new operating system brings certain incompatibilities with old software, I've heard, thousands of times: "I hate Windows, my doesn't work anymore". And although I'm writing this from my personal UBUNTU DESKTOP with FIREFOX, I do not develop addons for it because I will not waste my time in something that could stop working a month from now, even when I follow all of the Mozilla Foundation rules. Going now to the point, deprecating .Net support, which is the path of the guy making the most selled operating system the universe ever had (again I use Ubuntu, and I'm not telling Windows is better, just more sold), is like saying: "Hey use my browser, it is not compatible with some things you do and later with none, but hey, who cares!".
            Not a good move for Mozilla (unless they have something else under their sleeve).
            istari2ve2002@...
          • Explain in Details, please!

            what is wrong with FireFox, that you all are fussing?
            kro1
        • .Net Plugin not OS or Browser

          Look, the issue here is that plugins that were built with .Net won't work in the newest Firefox. That has nothing to do with the OS the browser is running in.
          Basically the only difference from loading Firefox in Linux is that the broken Plugins would now fail for two reasons instead of one.
          brendan@...
    • It affects those that need to access content requireing this plugin

      If you need to access content that requires this plug in, then you can switch to any OS you want and it will not make the slightest difference.

      Its all about the content you are trying to access and has nothing to do with the OS on your computer.

      Firefox on Ubuntu will be just as unable to access the content as Firefox on Windows will be.

      I wish that someday people would begin to realize that not every issue that comes up is part of their fantasy Linux Vs. Windows death struggle (which ever side of that struggle you may be on). Its just completely irrelevant.
      cornpie
      • RE:It affects those that need to access content requireing this plugin

        >>>...I wish that someday people would begin to realize that not every issue that comes up is part of their fantasy Linux Vs. Windows death struggle...<<<

        And I wish people would read and understand the post they are replying to, but that ain't gonna happen anytime soon, either.
        richdave
    • RE: Mozilla pushes out .Net incompatible Firefox 3.5

      How ordinary users-on-the-street who consider Firefox just another browser will feel is a story well worth following up on.<a href="http://ipadbagblog.com/"><font color="LightGrey"> k</font></a>
      zakkiromi
  • Huh?

    How about using .NET 1.1?
    ridingthewind
    • good point

      This is just zdnet creating unnecessary fuss abt nothing. pure uninformed manure.

      maybe do a little bit of research before wasting all our time.

      .net 1.1 is the latest version not .net 1 and by supporting 1.1 you have access to everything. this is not a linux vs MS or anti-MS thing..

      Blog author please do your research before you post something.
      abdulbijur