Open source benefits from 7th circle of Apple hell
Summary: Apple is back in the same box Steve Jobs put it in 25 years ago.
A friend had trouble with their iPhone yesterday and enlisted me in a trip to the Apple Store.
(The Apple store in Lenox Square Mall, Atlanta, from Apple.com.)
Three hours later I realized that Apple is back in the same box Steve Jobs put it in over 25 years ago.
To continue the morning's baseball theme, It was deja vu all over again.
My friend's WiFi was on the fritz. The battery was losing power faster than a politician under indictment. No problem, he said. I have an appointment.
The store was tightly packed with people, even though it was Monday afternoon. We were called at 3:18 for an appointment scheduled for 3. After examining the unit our hyper-friendly Apple geek suggested a reboot. No good. Sadly he suggested reloading the operating system. Some 15 minutes later, still no good.
OK, he said, we can fix it, but it will take time because it's a hardware problem. Wait, my friend said, that's my home phone. Can't I just buy another?
Sure, the geek replied. Just get in this line here. How long is this line here, my friend asked. About an hour-and-a-half to two hours, came the reply from the line monitor.
Some 45 minutes later, while my friend frantically used his AT&T data minutes to try and order a new phone online while standing in the Apple phone ordering line, his girlfriend arrived like cavalry to the rescue. She wasn't under Apple's spell. She pulled us out and said my friend could buy something later.
Suddenly, in the mall parking lot, a miracle occurred. There, right across the street, was an AT&T store. A company-owned store, its happy little death star sparkling in the sunlight.
Eureka, my friend said. They sell iPhones. So we went over.
It was night-and-day. By which I mean the AT&T store was nearly empty. The help was not overwhelmed. They were waiting for us. We were taken to a man named Scott, who engaged my friend in earnest conversation while I perused the inventory.
Look, I said, this Samsung CaptivaCaptivate costs just what the iPhone would. It's an Android phone designed to look just like the iPhone, and it seems to have all the same features as the iPhone. Hint, hint. (Thanks to ITGuy08 for catching the misspelling.)
Well, Scott replied, we don't have any iPhones in stock, but I can get you into a Captiva right now. A half-hour or so later my friend was a happy Android user, asking me if I wanted an iBrick.
There are some important lessons here:
- Apple claims to be unworried because it is selling iPhones as fast as it can make them. Even faster.
- Apple is not scaled to meet demand for its product, and certainly not for its retail services.
- Alternatives with the same look-and-feel are available now.
Back in the 1980s, PC users had to live through 6 years of FUD, waiting for Microsoft or IBM to get their act together and deliver a graphical user interface similar to the Apple Mac, introduced in 1984. Apple had 5 years to own the market, yet its insistence on complete control meant it couldn't meet demand. Microsoft won.
It's happening again, Steve. Only it didn't take Microsoft 6 years to match you. Open source did it in two. And that's why Android phones now out-sell the iPhone. They're not better, they're just available, and you don't have to go into the 7th circle of Apple Hell to get one.
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But Apple LOVES its customers ;-) (nt)
Which would explain the packed stores, continually
But, hey, don't let facts get in the way of your little personal envy-driven hate fest.
Here are the facts
Add to that the fact that no matter what hot new gadget you buy today, it's going to be outdated by next week's hot new gadget. One more reason why good enough is good enough.
This is not hate. It's not envy. It is just assessing my priorities and saying I will not stand in line for a phone...any phone...no matter how good it is. Next time I'm buying a phone if there is a long line to buy an Android phone and I can walk in and buy an iPhone right now, I'll probably get the iPhone...though ask yourself: How likely is that?
RE: Open source benefits from 7th circle of Apple hell
RE: Open source benefits from 7th circle of Apple hell
My wife want's an I-Phone but blowed if I'm getting an Iphone-4 3 is all sold out and not available so they won't be getting my coin, but if they had good Iphones available right now (read not v4) then I would probably give them some money to keep wifey happy.
What do you think is the better business decision? stock available so people can do business with you easily or no stock so it puts off customers?
RE: Open source benefits from 7th circle of Apple hell
RE: Open source benefits from 7th circle of Apple hell
But it is close enough
My Droid X is close enough to my iPhone that I don't miss the iPhone at all. And the DX has capabilities that will never be offered on the iPhone.
Actually, it is better
With Droid, you don't have 1984 telling you what you can and can't do with your phone, AND the apps are more useful. Seems like Apple hates useful apps, but at the same time, they can allow X number of fart apps :)
Right. Because Verizon doesn't control your UI or feature set
Look. If you like Android, good for you, but don't insult our intelligence with fairy tales to justify your opinion, it just makes you look defensive and insecure.
RE: Open source benefits from 7th circle of Apple hell
chuckle
I have a Nexus One and yes - I get VERY timely updates - and yes it's running on ATT....
RE: Open source benefits from 7th circle of Apple hell
But reading posts from Apple people is like watching Mythbusters - it's fun to just sit back and watch the explosions.
RE: Open source benefits from 7th circle of Apple hell
Actually, Verizon doesn't control the UI at all. Not even the feature set. The manufacturer of the phone might.
Win
But reading posts from Apple people is like watching Mythbusters - it's fun to just sit back and watch the explosions. "[/i]
Win!
It's Captivate
Your friend had a problem with their iPhone
Sorry, but your story doesn't pass the smell test
We went up to the Genius bar. Told him the problem. He looked at the phone. Verified the wifi was dead. Did the light scope check for water damage. Asked if we had synced the phone before coming down (we had). Five minutes later, my wife walked out with a new phone.
Now, continue to sit here and tell us that Apple, rated for something like three years in a row as the company with the best customer service is another Microsoft.
All so you can feel better about selling your soul to Google.
RE: Open source benefits from 7th circle of Apple hell
Don't knock it.
Wife had same experience at an Apple store on the other side of the US (Manhattan Beach).
Unlike this she has her 3GS still - not sure for how much longer though - on her third one (brick x1, battery x1)
Suspect all stores have good/bad "geniuses" in them. Problem is one bad can overcome the benefits of a dozen goods.....
RE: Open source benefits from 7th circle of Apple hell
DUH. HAve you heard of an Appointment??
Go on line or on the iPhone. Make an appointment at the Genius Bar. I've never had to wait more than 10 min.