Proof that desktop Linux market is growing

Proof that desktop Linux market is growing

Summary: FarStone Technologies will re-sell its RestoreIT disaster recovery package through Linspire under the name RestoreIT Linux Edition. The announcement was made today at the Desktop Linux Summit in San Diego.


When proprietary vendors start selling proprietary add-ons it is good for open source.

You may need to repeat this to yourself a few times upon learning that FarStone Technologies will re-sell its RestoreIT disaster recovery package through Linspire under the name RestoreIT Linux Edition. The announcement was made today at the Desktop Linux Summit in San Diego.

Tom Fedro (above), vice president-sales and marketing operations for FarStone, told me the 13 year old Irvine, Calif.-based company looks upon this just like the OEM deals it has with firms like Intel, Phoenix Technologies, and numerous ISPs around the world.

"Growth in open source is dramatic," he said. "We’re talking to all the big players, and they are all positive that this kind of thing is important.

"We see Linux as a tremendous opportunity."

But FarStone is not an open source company. Not at all. "We’re not open source. We are bundling our application with the operating system of these Linux providers. This is a value add to their offering."

Fedro said the desktop Linux market is forecast to grow to 17 million units in the next two years, with an installed base of 42 million.

And don't worry about the price. "The cost in a bundle is usually passed on to the consumer as a value-add. It doesn’t add to the product price. For people like Phoenix it’s a true OEM relationship where they pay us a license fee and remarket it under their own name. In the case of an ISP they sell it as a subscription service."

So just keep repeating to yourself. This is good news. This is good news. This is very good news indeed...

Topic: Linux

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  • FarStone

    Many of the tools that FarStone sells are available as command line functions already present in most Linux distros. However, I am gald to see them get into the act. Many years ago I used FarStones CloneIt(I think it was called) tool which works much like Symatecs ghost and it was very cool. It will be nice to see them bring some nice gui control apps to Linux. Mondo does a similar function but I am hoping that they will also introduce other apps not yet available in Linux.
  • A little twist

    If I may, I'd like to throw a twist in this desktop thing. First, The linux desktop won't be leaving XP/Vista in the dust of user population. People are just going to stick with what they feel comfortable with and that's just fine with me.

    One example, people want to share files and collaborate. They want to use Outlook, Evolution, and Kontact. Their also tight with expences today. E-Groupware, Open-Xchange, and a few others are a free replacement for MS Exchange.

    We also have OXtender, Toltec Connecter, and some that are a little less expensive. This is how MS Outlook connects to Open source Application services.

    With that said, I would also like to bring up the point that John Carroll made last year about Linux and or Open source needing an "Ecosystem" Kontact is a great example of the progress being made. Open Office is another. It's great too! I'm working with this and we are really connecting and sharing information.

    Maybe I'm a little off base here but my point is people want to inter operate and not just though a web page. We like fat clients, we like 3-D and glassy transparent menus on our desktops. We use Solaris, Linux, OS X, and XP/Vista.

    Welcome to the 21st Century, because one is not enough for an independant human race.

  • Desktop Linux market is HERE


    I am an old hand at the Desktop thing.
    Been there. Done that. As far as Windows is concerned.

    For those wondering what all the 'buzz' is about re Novell SLED and OpenSuSE 10.1, just mosey on over to this url for a quick survey to get an idea what's 'in the works':

    I've been testing from beta up to RC 1 on SuSE 10.1 and will say unequivocally that MS Windows has 'alot' to be concerned about as far as the Linux desktop market growth is concerned!

    SuSE 10.1 general release is slated for the end of this month!

    Color me enthusiastic.
    D T Schmitz
    • Agree

      I used Fedora 4 Test and even had a bug or two in The final release of FC4.

      I also help others with SuSe 10 and yes they need help. People need help with Repositories and plug-ins. After up-dating and all the plug-ins are installed things work great! Hardware can also be a little buggy too. Just look at all the MADWIFI packages, which one do I choose? Up-date the Kernel and kiss WIFI bye bye!

      The FC4 install choose the wrong Display driver but I knew that and fixed it though the display manager. Sound can also be buggy too but also an easy fix.

      Rock Solid! My Network manager worked fine! :)
      • ndiswrapper

        I've had that happen more than a few times that I just leave the sourceforge ndiswrapper driver in my home ndis directory and go straight thru a make, make install directly after an upgrade--a 5 minute exercise and I am good to go with WIFI!

        In the overall grand scheme of things, a minor nuisance, a bit unsettling for the uninitiated, but once done, it's second nature.

        Thanks xstep.
        Linux Users Unite! (whoyah whoyahhhhhhhh!)
        D T Schmitz
        • second nature...

          It is unfortunate, but second nature for some of us translates into unusabe for most. A friend of mine is having problems with video capture card driver using Fedora. I removed the kernel module and reloaded it.... problem fixed. He acted like I just climbed a mountain. Maybe it's better that way. BTW... he can't fix XP problems either.
          • OEMs

            Well, it's nice that you did that, but all things being equal, he'd be in the same position with Windows as you suggest.

            It would be nice if a few major OEMs settle for selling Desktop machines with 'your choice' of Linux preinstalled and 'tuned' to the hardware.

            That would level the playing field a bit.

            Overall, SuSE and Yast do a better job of correctly detecting hardware and good driver support than Fedora (was on Fedora 4 at the time).

            Even down to supporting the internal WinModem with a SLModem driver!

            Your mileage may vary.
            Thanks John!
            D T Schmitz
          • Linspire Shows How to Support Linux Hardware

            The Linspire Hardware Manager is EXACTLY what desktop Linux needs.
            An easy way to find Linux-compatible hardware.
            You can add Cedega for Windows gaming.

            My next computer will be purchased from a Linspire partner (I have zero affiliation with Linspire).

            Congratulations to Michael Robertson and Linspire for helping us bring Linux to the masses.
            welcome to hell
  • Desktop Linux

    I CAN NOT believe that there are only 6 responses to this article.... Where oh where are the Linux guys tonight???????????
    • Enjoying Linux

      Most of us are enjoying their Linux Desktops instead of downloading virus fixes,Fedora Core 4,well on it's way now,replaced XP with it.
    • Test

      Test. Test. one two. two one.
      hang on.

      (!@#$%^&static snap pop zzzzzzzzzt)
      Ok. There.
      I think I found the problem.
      It was a loose jack connection.

      Back to you puppadave.
      Give it another try.
      D T Schmitz
    • where it's at...

      Most of us linux people are:
      • the rest of it...

        sorry can't type today...

        Most of us linux people either 1) don't worry so much what desktop push a certain group is on this month... we've picked our distro and just go about our lives. 2) use linux desktops because they create really nice frontends for gterm and ssh connections... we're CLI people and scripters. Gnome desklets are a diversion, but only as long as our servers are running well. You want us to comment, start the emacs wars again!
  • Linux Desktop

    I just installed Fedora Core 5 on a system for a friend of a friend. They seem to be very happy with the lack of problems with virus's and worms. They are also >>NOT<< power users, but hey, every Linux user counts!
  • Proof that desktop Linux market is growing

    I am proof that the Linux market is indeed growing.
    Iput Suse 9.2 on a machine about 6 months ago and have just in the last two days upgraded to Suse 10.0.
    I should have waited another week and loaded 10.1 but I have to ask a person with a good high speed connection to download it and I have what he gave me.
    Now the fact that I have been using Linux does not mean I am totaly confident with it and do still suffer from my lack of tech savvy.
    My biggest gripe is the lack of CD/DVD music and film playback on Suse(something to do with licences or something I hear.
    I know there is an add on but I do not know what it is or even how to add it in.
    Also it knows I have a kodak camera but refuses to let me download the pictures.
    Yes I am a newbee and I cannot blame the OS for my lack of knowledge but to be really acceptable to people like myself some of this more desirable stuff needs to be made much more easy to get going
    If anybody has a link to a good howto on getting my music and dvd,s up and running I would be most grateful.
    I like Suse for the things I can use such as the yast updater which is really slick and i like konquerer for the email.
    I noticed that in 10 ,0 firefox was laoded to the desktop as a default in setup .
    I had to get Firefox in 9.2 and install it.
    Getting on the internet was easy once I had a modem that was good with Linux.
    I found a zoom 56 external and it just works which is nice especially as it cost me 2 dollars at a garage sale
    I actually got AVG antivirus up and running on 9.2 but have not bothered yeyt to put it on this new distro as I never got a virus before.
    Allin all I like what i have and will keep on with it .
    I promised myself I would be off windows in time for the next microsoft incarnation an d so I will
    • video/music players

      Bummer about the lack of a high speed connection. Personally I run Centos 4 (redhat el clone), but it suffers from the same limitations in audio video features. I've had good luck via yum and in terms of finding what I need ( and avoiding depencency hell (yum). I understand that for suse users yast is the hot ticket, so that may work better in your situation.

      From what I've seen, linux users mostly need to concentrate on keeping their systems patched and learning how to deal with firewall settings (firestarter is pretty easy), though anti-virus, though not really necessary unless you're running a mail gateway right now, I suspect that the same bright, misdirected individuals that brought windows users their pain of viruses will bring their apparently significant resources to bear on linux users once the target becomes reasonably worthwhile. The nice thnig is that it's a lot tougher to crack a linux box. Yay for us :)
    • Linspire Hardware Manager is a model for Linux HW Support ility.php
      The Linspire Hardware Manager is a rational way to support Linux-compatible hardware, until more manufacturers support it out of the box.

      You can support it directly, or point your Linux Vendor to it as a model of customer support, or even create an open source version of it.

      We need a large volume of Linux users to encourage more drivers, but we need more drivers to encourage a large volume of users.

      Linspire is doing something to break the logjam.
      welcome to hell
  • Proof?

    Sorry did I miss something? Someone's bundling some little piece of techie software with something else? Oh and as a non-OSS company they obviously know the future and they wouldn't be spinning would they?

    Seriously, proof of a growing Linux desktop market would require reporting actual numbers and that it's being used by someone else than the few (but annoyingly vocal) ABMers and *nixers.

    Next time you use the word proof - please provide some.
  • So at what point does MS's monopoly designation get re-evaluated?

    Ok, so, Microsoft was found by a judge to have a monopoly (on the x86-compatible desktop OS market) with Windows. And here is an article about desktop Linux's market "growing." In other words, becoming more viable.

    My question is, at what point does Microsoft's monopoly designation get re-evaluated? And who is responsible for it--does the DOJ at some point say, "MS is no longer a monopoly, there are now viable alternatives." Or does it have to go back to a judge? Or does MS keep the monopoly status until *they* force someone to remove it? The law seems quite fuzzy to me.

    Regardless, if articles like this one are any indication, the monopoly designation has to go away sooner or later.
    • Monopoly Yardstick

      For me, Microsoft will no longer have a monopoly when all the major computer manufacturers offer Linux as an option on any of their computers. That would be a level playing field.