Where Novell & SUSE Linux goes from here

Summary: Under Attachmate, Novell & SUSE are separate divisions and a world apart.

Attachmate's purchase of Novell is done, and now we're beginning to see it plans develop for the open-source power. First, and foremost, Attachmate is dividing up Novell's programs into three nominally independent divisions. These are NetIQ, which gets Novell identity and security programs and some of Novell data center solutions; Novell, which will manage the company's older technologies such as NetWare; and SUSE, which will produce SUSE Linux and oversee the openSUSE community Linux distribution.

NetIQ, a previously existing Attachmate division, will be in charge of the following product lines:

  • Novell Identity Manager
  • Novell Access Manager
  • Novell Sentinel
  • Novell Operations Center
  • The PlateSpin product line

In short, all of Novell's identity and access management, security and compliance management, and data center management products have all gone to NetIQ.

Novell proper is returning to its Utah roots. The company's headquarters will be in Provo Utah. That's not as good as it might sound though for veteran Novell staffers. Attachmate has already fired several hundred of Novell's Utah employees.

Novell's programs will include:

  • Novell Open Enterprise Server (OES)/NetWare
  • Novell GroupWise
  • Novell ZENworks
  • Novell File Management Suite
  • Novell Vibe

NetWare some of you may ask? Yes, NetWare. I'm told by sources in Novell that after years of slowing pushing the last NetWare customers to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES), the new Novell will continue to support NetWare under OES for years to come.

As for SUSE Linux, it returns to its Germany roots with Nils Brauckmann in charge. In an interview Brauckmann told me, "By operating SUSE as a separate business unit focused on the Linux marketplace, we can accelerate our delivery of high-value Linux solutions that help organizations enhance growth, reduce costs, tame complexity and spur innovation. We have the world-class engineering resources, partners and state-of-the-art technologies to succeed. Now we are sharpening our focus on making SUSE Linux Enterprise the preeminent Linux distribution across physical, virtual and cloud environments."

Brauckmann also told me that "We recognize and celebrate the value of the openSUSE Project and will remain a strong supporter of the openSUSE community. We reiterate our long-term commitment to the open source communities at the heart of our ecosystem. Our presence in these communities will help our customers benefit from the rich value of Linux, while encouraging the collaboration that has made Linux the foundation of so many computing environments today."

Specifically, Brauckmann said that SUSE will continue to stick to the already announced SUSE Linux announced product lines. In other words, SLES and SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop (SLED) will continue to be produced. SLES, for example, will continue to be supported on IBM's System z mainframe lines.

He added that SUSE wanted to improve its relations with other open-source projects. "Together, we will strive for innovation and to improve open-source quality. Many people in SUSE are members of the community and we will continue strong relationship with openSUSE." Specifically, "SUSE will continue to support the openSUSE organization, events, and conferences."

So what does that mean outside of Linux? Brauckmann confirmed that SUSE has given up on Mono, the open-source adaptation of Microsoft's .NET architecture. Mono's founder, Miguel de Icaza, has already started a new company, Xamarin, to commercially support this development architecture.

Brauckmann explained that SUSE made this move because "Quite frankly we have to adjust our investments to meet sales and customer demand." And, there simply wasn't much commercial demand for Mono.

On the other hand, Brauckmann also said that SUSE will continue support LibreOffice, the open-source office suite, and the Linux-based Evolution groupware/e-mail client.

Like the heads of NetIQ and Novell, Brauckmann will report directly to Attachmate's CEO Jeff Hawn. While each division will be independent, with its own go-to-market strategy, they will share some corporate level resources such as in-house counsel and human resources.

So what does it all mean? Well, I'm inclined to take a wait and see attitude. That said I am worried that the new Novell and SUSE have lost all their senior management. The executives in charge of the three companies all have vast experience, but few of the non-technical leadership have spent significant time working on Linux or open-source projects. Let's hope they can learn fast. Red Hat, in particular, isn't going to give SUSE much time for on-the-job learning.

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  • We can only hope that SUSE will have success back under German management

    The Novell-Microsoft 'interop' deal was the kiss of death for it.

    And thankfully, Mono is nomo.
    Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~-~ Your Linux Advocate
    • YES!

      @Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~-~ Your Linux Advocate

      Bye, bye mono....you won't be missed.
      Tim Patterson
    • I suspect it will in Europe

      SUSE for Europe, RHEL for the Americas.<br><br>I suspect SE/E Asia will go RHEL as well from what I'm seeing.<br><br>No surprise Mono was killed, warning of this for years.<br><br>Continued Netware support is surprising, remaining customers would want to jump of that ship pretty quickly. Enough in the other products to keep Utah (one of the nicest & most interesting of the US) busy.<br><br>A good deal despite the questionable financing.
      Richard Flude
    • RE: Where Novell & SUSE Linux goes from here

      @Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~-~ Your Linux Advocate

      So the last hope of getting sophisticated modern software and a real development system for Linux has disappeared with Mono.

      I'm afraid Linux is destined to stay where it is, complete obscurity.
      tonymcs@...
      • An environment so sophisticated it isn't even used by MS

        C/C++/Objective C for desktop Apps, HTML5/Java EE for enterprise apps.

        Why play with toys that aren't up to the job?
        Richard Flude
      • RE: Where Novell & SUSE Linux goes from here

        @tonymcs@...
        Mono is not going to die.
        g@...
    • RE: Where Novell & SUSE Linux goes from here

      @Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~-~ Your Linux Advocate <br>Well, Novell made money on the deal. Can't really say that Microsoft slowed down in any visible way RedHat's success for all the money it spent. For a couple of years, Microsoft sales people were giving away coupons for Linux to the already Linux-adopting enterprise.<br><br>Meanwhile, Novell plunked out a lot of money to block the SCO Linux grab and that depressed their bottom line, but I hope you and I agree that we are thankful to its past management for the undertaking. I don't think Novell saw anything of their award and I don't think their successors will either.<br><br>As to mono, I don't think there's any thing wrong with Microsoft developing a framework in response to Sun's java. They were robust competitors in the server space and Sun did try to go after Microsoft in the enterprise desktop space as well.<br><br>We also see that Sun's successor in interest is exerting ip challenges and while one may paint a Snidely Whiplash mustache on Oracle, in fact, Sun knew about the issue and deferred action and mentioned the issue to potential buyers in order to make the company more attractive as a package. (I have extrapolated from Dr. Gosling's post buyout comments.)<br><br>As to you and me, small fish developers and users, our pond is ringed with many ip volcanoes. Whatever patent claims Microsoft may have on mono, they are obviously for software, probably abstract and potentially invalidated during litigation. Going after developers making free software makes no economic sense. What revenues are there to attach? Going after enterprise users who do have pockets would be a "sue your customer" strategy and you better believe many of those customers will rethink their desktop and server vendor choices.<br><br>For all intents and purposes, any patent claims on .net and mono are very likely extendable to claims on java and any other language that executes on a virtual machine. <br><br>There are volcanoes all around, but they don't erupt all at once, all the time. Some are dormant for millennia.<br><br>Plus, mono will continue. Without a well-financed sponsor, its progress may slow and it may fork because I think the mission statement for the project is a bit diffuse. I don't find it solves any of my problems, but it is an established framework that supports cross-platform solutions. People worked on it in earnest and many in service of the goals of FOSS. I don't think it serves any purpose to be glibly dismissive.
      DannyO_0x98
  • ...and will this help Novell or OpenSuse SELL their products?

    Not too long ago (2010) I was looking for options to replace Microsoft SBS server for small business clients. One candidate in planning was SLES. Using trial licenses, the initial review looked promising, then I tried to buy licenses for on-site testing...

    The first call to Novell was a surprise....they'd have someone call me back. Regardless of the fact that I had a credit card in hand to BUY a license, some teenage-sounding kid assured me that the license I wanted could only be bought through a "partner." Given that I was looking at BECOMING a partner, who'd have thought the partners weren't gonna be too quick to call me up and sell me a license....

    Then, after Texas Linuxfest 2010 here in Austin, I was told by a Novell person attending the conference that I'd definitely get a call as soon as they called someone. ...Weeks later, after no call, I still couldn't buy a license.

    Attachmate should hopefully realize that Novell's problem is NOT the technology, and it's not the organization of the business. Novell's problem is that the company couldn't have sold their way out of a wet rice-paper bag with a chain saw!
    SamCaldwell
    • RE: Where Novell & SUSE Linux goes from here

      @SamCaldwell

      Attachmate likes enterprise sales. They probably want large partners too.
      a23d56
    • RE: Where Novell & SUSE Linux goes from here

      @SamCaldwell Buy away...

      http://shop.novell.com/DRHM/store?Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&SiteID=novell&Locale=en_US&Env=BASE&Currency=USD&productID=46949200

      You can also get it from any Novell partner (e.g. SHI, CDW, ASAP, etc.). Or if you have signed up to be a partner, like I am, you can also probably get some testing or NFR copies for free.

      While I do disagree with you that the organization of the business was a problem of theirs, it was also the former management. From what I've seen/heard so far, things do seem to be getting better, and I'm happy that they split them apart, as the Novell name and brand never seemed to do anything but bring down SUSE.
      mikeer
    • RE: Where Novell & SUSE Linux goes from here

      @SamCaldwell Hi Sam, sorry to hear your bad fortune with purchasing Novell products. I have personally purchased many of their products as a partner on behalf of clients and have not run into any issues with their e-commerce solutons setup -- perhaps you could look into finding a reputable partner in your area.
      Darko Gavrilovic
  • Too bad for Mono

    It's a shame Mono didn't make the cut. C# is a great programming language. However, business is business. If the commercial demand for it isn't there, then that's that.
    bmonsterman
    • RE: Where Novell & SUSE Linux goes from here

      @bmonsterman - there is a world of difference between 'any' commercial interest and 'ENOUGH' commercial interest. Mono may not have presented enough revenue to interest Atrachmate, but may provide enough to fund and grow a new, smaller company.
      bitcrazed
  • Wait and see

    I'm still waiting for text mode remote SSH install on RH/Fedora. SUSE had it a long time ago ...
    a23d56
  • RE: Where Novell & SUSE Linux goes from here

    C# is one of my favorite programming language, which could be of good use for Linux for me. Oh well. :)
    Grayson Peddie
  • RE: Where Novell & SUSE Linux goes from here

    I can't see SuSE surviving now, especially after what Microsoft have done to it.

    It's a cursed distro,
    bitrate
    • RE: Where Novell & SUSE Linux goes from here

      @bitrate Well, SUSE never made the deal with MS...only Novell did. And most, if not all, of the folks who made that deal are gone.

      And, not sure if you've checked out the distro (either openSUSE or SLE) lately, but it's actually pretty darn good. And we're selling it at a pretty good pace (to some large customers) since RH increased their prices.
      mikeer
  • RE: Where Novell & SUSE Linux goes from here

    LOL If all software and computers implode tomorrow, the world will be a much better place.

    Computers are a waste of time
    X41
  • RE: Where Novell & SUSE Linux goes from here

    Linux has come a long ways from the days when I first purchased my first copy. I am learning more all the time with it and with so many flavors I get confused as to which one is best. I have a copy of OpenSuse and Ubuntu with Ubuntu being the better. The copy of SuSE from Novell was out of date with no updates from Novell so I don't use it any longer. Novell quickly discard older versions with no support where Ubuntu still support their older versions more.
    semco72057