Treo 700p patch problems - bad to worse

By | June 6, 2007, 10:36am PDT

Summary: This is beyond bad. I’ve heard from a number of people through various channels about the post I put up a few days back concerning the ongoing delays in getting a patch out for Treo 700p users and the ham-handedness with which they’re being handled by Palm. Some are concerned it is a sign of the imminent demise of the company’s remaining good name. In the latest tragic chapter in this affair, the company has now pulled the lone patch made available to date for Sprint customers.

This is beyond bad. I’ve heard from a number of people through various channels about the post I put up a few days back concerning the ongoing delays in getting a patch out for Treo 700p users and the ham-handedness with which they’re being handled by Palm. Some are concerned it is a sign of the imminent demise of the company’s remaining good name. In the latest tragic chapter in this affair, the company has now pulled the lone patch made available to date for Sprint customers.

Turns out, some users experienced an infinite reset loop after applying the patch – in some cases rendering the device completely unusable. Other have reported that performing a hard reset (which wipes the phone clean of any personal data) gets things working properly. The hard reset thing has been pretty common with Treo patches in the past so no big deal there, as long as you know in advance you need to do that and have backed up your phone to a SD card or your PC (which only became clear after people started posting about this in the comments on the Palm blog).

But this latest post, from beleaguered Palm spokesperson Paul Loeffler is clearly a sign that things have gone pretty much completely off the rails at Palm.

700p MR Temporarily Unavailable

We’re sorry, but the Sprint Treo 700p maintenance release (MR) is temporarily unavailable. We have received isolated reports of an installation issue that causes the device to continuously reset when applying the software update, so we’ve removed the update from our site. We’re investigating the issue and will make the Sprint Treo 700p update available again as soon as possible. We know this has been a frustrating process for customers and apologize for the inconvenience it may have caused.

If you have experienced difficulty with the maintenance release installation, please contact us so we can work with you to resolve the issue: 866-750-7256.

We don’t have a target date for when we can make the Treo 700p MR available for Verizon Wireless users.

Also, we currently don’t have plans to issue a MR for other carriers because the ROM software already contains many of the features that are included in the Sprint and Verizon Wireless updates (e.g. many of the Bluetooth improvements and MP3 playback).

Paul Loeffler - Palm, Inc.

Parsing that out causes my poor little head to throb. If I’m reading this right, these are the facts (and, as Kevin Bacon once said in “A Few Good Men”, they are not in dispute):

  1. The patch, which has been promised for nearly a year, is still not available.
  2. The Sprint patch is profoundly broken and Palm has no idea why or how soon a new patch will be re-posted.
  3. If you are a Sprint customer, did download and apply the patch, and now have an unusable Treo, you should call them. Good argument for having a land line or VoIP I guess. Sadly, this kind of reminds me of the old tech support joke that has a user unable to connect to the internet being told by a tech that the solution is to download a patch to fix the problem.
  4. Verizon users (including moi) are still SOL. No idea at all when we’ll see a patch. None.
  5. Other carrier customers like Alltel won’t get a patch because some unspecified subset of the unspecified issues this patch is designed to someday resolve have already been addressed in more the recent, partially patched firmware used in their locked-to-a-carrier devices.

Oh… the humanity.

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That would be welcome but...
morchant 9th Jun 2007
I'm not sure they can afford to do that. I'd be satisfied with a reasonable upgrade price (say $100-150) that did not force a reset on my contract. Not sure the carriers would go along with that though.
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I had the windows version of the Treo 700 and it had a lot of issues. Most were fixed by a patch but it took forever before the update was released.

I'm seeing similar things from Motorola. I wish they could release small, incremental patches that could be pulled down straight from the network. With 3G phones this should be easy.
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As a Sprint 700p user, I followed the upgrade path and began running into other issues. My 'patched' 700p's Versamail has now gone on the fritz. While Blazer can connect to the internet normally, Versamail is randomly erroring out while trying to connect to the 'net. Some incoming phone calls are ringing, others going automatically into 'silent' mode. There doesn't seem to be a pattern to it either. All this, without any other software (3rd party or otherwise) on the phone.

Palm has really flubbed this - and at a time that they can't afford to. What a disaster.


Nitin

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VersaMail errors
mikei1 6th Jun 2007
I had a problem with VersaMail crashing the phone. It seems that the update corrupted the caches. Deleting the VersaMail caches (with FileZ) and downloading email again seems to have solved this problem.

Also troubling is the slew of files that the update has left behind. (CDMA Updater, D.C. DeviceUpdateChecker, DeviceUpdaterLib, ROMUPdater)
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Maybe Palm should...
alexm555@... 8th Jun 2007
...recall all the 700p's and give everyone a 755p.
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That would be welcome but...
morchant 9th Jun 2007
I'm not sure they can afford to do that. I'd be satisfied with a reasonable upgrade price (say $100-150) that did not force a reset on my contract. Not sure the carriers would go along with that though.
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Treo 700P patch
Taking_it_easy 8th Jun 2007
The situation went from not so bad to very bad. Now my bluetooth headset disconnects when I get a call and takes too long to connect when I make an outgoing call.
Also, the updating software used up my remaining internal storage and I cannot run programs with large OS, like Google Maps. There are no instructions on whether the CDMA updater and ROM updater can be removed.

I'm a TREO fan but now will consider the alternatives.
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That's very troubling
morchant 8th Jun 2007
Especially since Bluetooth pairing was supposed to be improved, not made worse, with this patch.

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