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Advice on wireless security policy

By | June 23, 2006, 1:54am PDT

Summary: One of our readers who works in an American Government State agency named Dawn asks about the relationship between SSL and Wireless LAN security.

One of our readers named Dawn works in a State government agency and asks the following question:

Hello, I am working on a project that is having some debate on developing a usage policy for wireless Internet usage.  We are in the process of implementing a web app that collects sensitive and confidential client information.  The application does require digital certificates for authentication and uses SSL.  My concern is that we have no way to ensure that wireless networks are appropriately secured with current encryption (WPA), SSID broadcast disabled, etc. and that allowing users to use wireless is not a wise idea with this data.

The argument I’m frequently facing is that it’s still encrypted with SSL and that the method of transport (wired vs. wireless) is not the issue.  I am just not comfortable with this, and something deep in my gut tells me there is still reason to be concerned.  Can you provide me with any sources of information that can clarify this for me, or should I be satisfied that the data is adequately protected by SSL alone?  Any help would be most appreciated!

Dawn, that’s a great question.  But before I answer that, I want to put to rest the myth that SSID broadcast disabled is a security feature.  I want you to strike the words "SSID broadcast disable" and "MAC filtering" from your vocabulary.  I wrote this wildly popular blog "The six dumbest ways to secure a Wireless LAN" early last year and it is still very relevant today.  Many people still believe these urban legends or that they still have some kind of deterrence value, but I put that to rest here.

Now you want to know if SSL security is good enough for sensitive data and if it negates the need for Wireless LAN security.  The truth of the matter is an SSL tunnel when implemented properly with two-way authentication is good enough to secure online banking.  If you were hosting the server to be available to the general Internet, then be exposing TCP ports 80 and 443 to the entire World Wide Web and the clients are coming from an insecure source to begin with.

I’m not sure what your fear with Wireless LANs are because they can actually be more secure than your wired network when properly implemented.  This is because your wired network properly has zero authentication and encryption requirements and anyone with physical access to the cable is on the network.  Any enterprise implementation of a Wireless LAN should use strong authentication with a minimum of PEAP or EAP-TTLS and use strong encryption with a minimum of TKIP or preferably AES.

The bottom line is that you need both SSL and Wireless LAN security for different purposes.  SSL secures your Application Server to Client communications end-to-end at the transport layer, while Wireless LAN security protects the Data Link Layer of your internal network.  The need for a secured Wireless LAN has nothing to do with whether SSL is good enough and it has everything to do with your private network’s defensive perimeter.  You don’t ever want foreign bodies to be able to invade your private network via your Wireless LAN and be in the soft underbelly of your network.  Conversely, having good Wireless LAN security does not negate the need for end-to-end SSL encryption even if it is on an internal LAN or WAN network because you can’t assume there will never be any malicious parties at work on an internal network.

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Yes, that's what happens when you use VPN
georgeou 23rd Jun 2006
The SSL server doesn't need to be exposed to the Web which is the BIGGEST threat and you can't trick someone in to ignoring bogus SSL certificates. Using encapsulation and encryption on Layer 3 (emulating and encapsulating Layer 2) does hide the entire session. So in that sense, I agree with you that SSL is weaker than an IPSEC or SSLVPN tunnel because it's possible to misuse SSL and your SSL server exposed to the Internet is a big liability. The problem with mandating VPN is that it?s much more difficult to deploy and harder to use. SSLVPN tunnels make deployment easier, but it?s still not as seamless as plain old SSL on the server itself.
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Different question
Robert Crocker 23rd Jun 2006
It looks like the question is whether it's safe to access an encrypted site via a public wifi network, not what wifi security they should implement for their internal wireless network.

If the question is in fact the former and not the latter then it being wireless versus wired doesn't mean much. I guess someone could try to sniff the packets as they fly over the air, but someone could also be doing that on a wired network too. (It would be interesting to see the results of a packet sniffer on a wired network in a hotel.)

Frankly their probably in more danger of someone "shoulder surfing" and reading data off the reps screen while he's keying it in at the local Starbucks.
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fwiw and the benefit of the readershipt, on a public wifi, per se, one can ssh port forward SOCKS4 to a proxy server (Linux running squid) of your choice (e.g. to a home server running an sshd service)--that tunnels all of your public wireless activities to that endpoint.

Ok then. Thanks
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In (closer to) English
Robert Crocker 23rd Jun 2006
The idea is that you can use VPN (Virtual Private Networking) tunelling to encrypt the entirety of your transaction and thus make it almost impossible to sniff/snoop.

This may be the solution. Have them do all their access via VPN. (Still doesn't defeat the shoulder surfers though.)
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SSL is a secure tunnel
georgeou 23rd Jun 2006
SSL secures the transport layer, VPN secures the network layer, and they accomplish the same thing. Now depending on the VPN client, it is better in the sense that a user can?t be social engineered to ignore SSL certificate warnings when there is a man-in-the-middle.
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Hide the whole thing
Robert Crocker 23rd Jun 2006
VPN would hide where the request is going to as well as the packets of the request. The other advantage would be to get the server with such sensitive information away from direct exposure to the Internet.
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The SSL server doesn't need to be exposed to the Web which is the BIGGEST threat and you can't trick someone in to ignoring bogus SSL certificates. Using encapsulation and encryption on Layer 3 (emulating and encapsulating Layer 2) does hide the entire session. So in that sense, I agree with you that SSL is weaker than an IPSEC or SSLVPN tunnel because it's possible to misuse SSL and your SSL server exposed to the Internet is a big liability. The problem with mandating VPN is that it?s much more difficult to deploy and harder to use. SSLVPN tunnels make deployment easier, but it?s still not as seamless as plain old SSL on the server itself.
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I agree
opensourcepro 23rd Jun 2006
The debate over wired vs. wireless will hopefully die down.

http://opendomain.blogspot.com/
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"It looks like the question is whether it's safe to access an encrypted site via a public wifi network, not what wifi security they should implement for their internal wireless network"

I said if you can do online banking over a public Internet with properly implemented SSL, then what's the difference on Wi-Fi? Your attack surface for Wi-Fi is 10 mile radius at best, your attack surface for Internet is global. SSL by definition protects you on a network where your adversary is sniffing you.
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Hmm (OT)
rapson 23rd Jun 2006
"One of our readers who works in a State government agency named Dawn asks the following question:"

I've never heard of a State government agency named Dawn... happy

Just getting the jump on the Grammar Police.

Carl Rapson
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Hmm
Real World 23rd Jun 2006
Well, it sounds better than FEMA...
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Sorry, George
rapson 23rd Jun 2006
I didn't mean to ridicule, but the phrasing was just too good to pass up. happy

Carl Rapson
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No, you were right
georgeou 23rd Jun 2006
No problem. You were right, it was confusing and bad choice of words on my part. I've changed it.

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