Apple gives you a virus on iPod, blames Microsoft

Apple gives you a virus on iPod, blames Microsoft

Summary: In a disgusting display of arrogance and insincerity, Apple shipped Video iPods loaded with a virus and blames Microsoft for not being "more hardy" against it.  Apple writes:As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses, and even more upset with ourselves for not catching it.

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In a disgusting display of arrogance and insincerity, Apple shipped Video iPods loaded with a virus and blames Microsoft for not being "more hardy" against it.  Apple writes:

As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses, and even more upset with ourselves for not catching it.

Oh really!  How about a sincere apology for giving your users a dangerous product instead of passing the buck?  How in the world is it a Microsoft problem if Apple ships a malicious .EXE file to its customers?  If Microsoft or another company had shipped some CDs with Microsoft Office for Mac OS with a malicious Mac executable or a script that deleted all the user's files, would that be Apple's fault for not being "more hardy"?

There are people that are under the illusion that Mac exploits are impossible, but it clearly isn't the case.  This zero-day Safari exploit for example only demonstrated a flaw by enumerating the user's files but could have just as easily deleted all of them.  If it were a simple malicious executable packaged in to a commercial product for Mac OS X, it would be trivial to get a Mac user to launch it.  Based on Apple's standards, we would simply blame Apple for allowing the user to run the malicious code.

This isn't the first time Apple has shipped massively destructive products.  Past versions of iTunes would wipe out entire partitions for any Mac user unfortunate enough to have multiple partitions or drives.  If this had been any other company especially Microsoft, people would be calling for their heads instead of apologizing for them.

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  • COMPLETE FALLACY

    [sarcasm]

    Once again, Ou comes to the rescuse of THE EVIL EMPIRE. Surly with all those billions upon billions in the bank, Microsoft can afford to be philanthropic enough to do something to protect users instead of just railroading them! Surely we all recognize that a small company like Apple, a company that Microsoft has abused with its monopoly power, doesn't have the resources to combat such things. Microsoft, with its intent on WORLD DOMINATION, has the ultimate responsibility to make sure all is safe with its crappy software no matter the cause.
    [/sarcasm]

    Arthas
    JamesNT
    • Nice self description

      Apple and Microsoft have had non compete contracts for ages. Apple licensed a basic interpreter from Microsoft for years, maybe decades and called it Applesoft. Apple has nothing to upset at the "evil" empire for. They have been deceitful time and time again. My first computer was an Apple. I felt odd using an Apple but knowing the majority of my work was being done with Microsoft innovation. Apple is just another in a long line of losers who never tried to compete but are now crying foul. Why did Apple choose to stay totally proprietary during the 80s and 90s? They could have fought for desktop share but rather locked themselves into the most proprietary system the world has ever known. The flat out refused to adopt tcp/ip for crying out loud. And you have the nerve to put this on MS. GEt real. Sure it's a huge trend to blame everything on MS, everthing they do is wrong and no matter how bad another company may FU, the anti MS crowd is standing by as apologists. Luckily over 80% of the worlds population does not have such radical extremist ideals of world domination by Open Source and Apple.
      Have you noticed how well the MS starter kits are doing in developing countries. Another full generation of Windows users. Isn't it great! :)
      xuniL_z
      • 9 /10

        >>> I felt odd using an Apple but [b]knowing the majority of my work was being done with Microsoft innovation.[/b] >>>

        LMAO !!!!

        I'm sure you feel odd for many other reasons so don't try to blame it on Apple.

        I would have given you a 10/10 if you would have gone out to dinner with your MS rep.

        Almost a Mike Cox but not quite (we at least know he's trying to be funny).

        ...
        MacCanuck
        • Actually...

          If he was using nothing but Applesoft Basic, he'd be right about "Microsoft Innovation" (Applesoft Basic was an entirely new programming language designed from the ground up by Bill Gates and his crew in the late 70's and early 80's).

          However, Microsoft hasn't gotten it right for a while now, and the last time Apple used the licence for Applesoft Basic was when the last of the IIGS computers and IIe cards for the Mac LC were sold. Otherwise, most "Microsoft Innovation" comes from copying Apple, Sun, IBM, SGI, SCO, Novell, and the open-source community.
          nix_hed
  • Incoming!

    Run for coverrrrrrrrrrr! ;)
    D T Schmitz
  • Your sarcasm detector

    needs new batteries.

    You'd do well to note that the second part of the sentence says that they're more upset with themselves for not catching the virus before shipping out the iPods in question.

    It's amazing considering how you castigated everyone for "misinterpreting" someone who said they wanted to "stick a cigarette in their eye". Maybe you can get David Burke to parse the sentence for you and use it to prove that Apple's still lying about SecureWorks.
    Robert Crocker
    • A lot of people are not laughing

      Getting infected with a virus by a company selling you a $300 device is never funny if you're the sucker infected.
      georgeou
      • You can do better than that

        "Getting infected with a virus by a company selling you a $300
        device is never funny if you're the sucker infected"

        It beats paying 3 grand for a media center that takes a college
        degree to use and then getting bogged down as a spam bot and
        taking 40 minutes to boot.But I guess having 6 IE toolbars is real
        useful to somebody and O'hhh look at the hula girl dancing
        across my task bar!.

        But I have no time for this nonsense because I have a back log of
        Dells and Gateways to fix. Sad that most folks do not have time
        or knowledge to properly secure The beauty of Win XP.

        I wish Apple had the balls to say "We wanted to stick a lit
        cigarette in windows users eyes but this virus was easier"
        Zoraster
        • Nope, that's a misquote

          David Maynor was joking off the record about the TV character. That misquote is getting real old.
          georgeou
          • Yes, it's getting old

            It's getting old because you keep lying about it.

            The quote said 'Mac users' (note that when you put an 's' at the
            end of a noun, it becomes plural.

            There's only one Mac user in the ads. Therefore, he could not
            have been talking about the guy in the ad or he would have used
            the singular.

            Of course, that assumes that he's passed second grade English.
            Given that you clearly have problems with concepts like 'plural'
            and 'few' and 'several', I guess it's possible that he does, too.
            jragosta
          • You are wrong and I can prove it

            I put an "s" at the end of several nouns including deer, fish and hippopotamus and none of them became plural, but rather errors in spelling or grammar. So should I say you were wrong in your statement. Youd didn't clarify afterall??
            Point is, this tit for tat crap is worthless. Apple did wrong, as they have many many times and that's that.
            xuniL_z
          • What's your point?

            The point is that George is continuing to claim that the guy was
            misquoted - when even a rudimentary knowledge of the English
            language proves that George is either stupid or lying.

            So which is it, George?
            jragosta
          • His misquotes should be ignored, but Apple's shouldn't?

            Funny how protective you are over this whole cigarette thing, yet you're so willing to take a line from Apple out of context and completely ignore the rest of their statement. Hypocrite much?
            tic swayback
        • You sure did him one better

          <i><br>
          It beats paying 3 grand for a media center that takes a college
          degree to use and then getting bogged down as a spam bot and
          taking 40 minutes to boot.But I guess having 6 IE toolbars is real
          useful to somebody and O'hhh look at the hula girl dancing
          across my task bar!.
          </i><br><br>

          Yeah, that's always worse for sure. Good one there. Damn. Let's talk about appletalk or any of hundreds of extinct mindless ideas.
          xuniL_z
      • curious

        what about people purchasing new peecee's and then having to go get sw to remove all the virii and spyware from a system they have just purchased.
        and what about when Vista comes out and you need to repurchase your os because MS doesnt allow you to transfer it to more than one system????
        cash cow
        by the way, since peecee users need to have anti virus apps on their system, wouldnt it be detected?

        i am curious as to how the file got installed.
        richvball44
      • Some points

        MS has shipped off viruses before with their software. Plus I thought you said virus detection on the desktop was a waste of time.

        Apple didn't say it was funny, they apologized. The sentence that you took such great offense at says they're "even sorrier that it got past us." You just saw Windows and went balistic rather than taking the time to parse out the whole sentence.

        Maybe next time Apple should just say they want to "shove a cigarette in the eye of those people", that's apparently less offensive then a snide remark about Windows being a tad fragile.
        Robert Crocker
      • You mean "IF you're the sucker using Windows" don't you?

        Personally I wonder if my video iPod has the virus and I never
        noticed cause well I use a MAC:P Frankly I think the whole thing
        is funny....still I hope Apple does something to make nice to
        those who might have suffered because of this bug. What does it
        do anyway? What harm does it cause?

        Oh and you have to give Apple some slack.....How are they
        suppose to know what malware looks like!?!

        Heh heh heh ....snicker

        Pagan jim
        Laff
      • Hmmm let take that one step further...

        "[B]...if you're the sucker infected.[/B]"

        [U]Should really read:[/U] if you're the sucker [B]running Microsoft Windows that gets[/B] infected.

        There, now that looks about right! ]:)
        Linux User 147560
      • Deserve what they get

        For using the worlds crappiest OS. Windows is garbage and anyone who is still using it gets what they deserve.
        DarthRidiculous
      • Do you know how many "a lot" is?

        Or is it just one of your "compliant words" that you use to exaggerate a point? So, how many is a lot? Is it more or less than the people who got viruses from Microsoft back in 2001 or 2002?
        zkiwi