ie8 fix
madison

Finally a reasonably cheap 80 Plus power supply

By | September 24, 2007, 5:21am PDT

Summary: One of the key criteria to getting a new EPA Energy Star rating on a new computer is having an “80 Plus” power supply.  A computer power supply that is more than 80% efficient at 20%, 50% and 100% load can earn an 80 Plus logo.  Finding an 80 Plus power supply for a do-it-yourself [...]

One of the key criteria to getting a new EPA Energy Star rating on a new computer is having an “80 Plus” power supply.  A computer power supply that is more than 80% efficient at 20%, 50% and 100% load can earn an 80 Plus logo.  Finding an 80 Plus power supply for a do-it-yourself PC at a reasonable price has been challenging and too many 80 Plus power supplies are oversized and overpriced.

A large price tag prices out a large portion of the market and oversized power supplies don’t actually deliver the kinds of efficiencies their marketing implies.  A 500 watt power supply that is rated 80 Plus will perform at well below 80% efficiency when paired with a modern PC that typically uses 50 to 100 watts of power because that’s less than 20% loading. The solution is to find a small and inexpensive power supply in the 200 watt range and Sparkle Power Inc. may have produced the right solution with their SPI220LE power supply. 

The SPI220LE is small (fits in 1U chassis and some MicroATX or FlexATX chassis), reasonably priced at $55 MSRP (available online), and it’s completely silent since the fan doesn’t even move until you get to 50% loading which is almost never.  In my quest to build a 50 watt PC, I hit a point of diminishing returns because my SeaSonic S12 330 watt PSU couldn’t operate that efficiently at 15% loading.  I could not get the computer to use less than 50 watts no matter how hard I tried and 51 watts was as low as I got.

With the SPI220LE, power consumption on a G33 motherboard and Intel E6750 dropped down to 47 watts when it was 52 watts [UPDATE 1:00PM - using an already efficient Seasonic S12 330W power supply.  The 330W PSU while efficient at 20% to 100% loses efficiently at loads of 15%].  A D201GLY dropped down to 31 watts in idle power consumption with the SPI220LE while the same computer measured 46 watts when I used a cheap PSU that came with a $16 MicroATX chassis which meant it was consuming an extra 48% in power.  That’s a huge difference in efficiency level and it’s no wonder the EPA is prioritizing on power supply efficiency when it comes to computers.  Now I just wish more vendors carried the SPI220LE power supply so that I wouldn’t have to pay full retail price.

Kick off your day with ZDNet's daily e-mail newsletter. It's the freshest tech news and opinion, served hot. Get it.

Topics

Disclosure

George Ou

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?page_id=557

Biography

George Ou

George Ou, a former ZDNet blogger, is an IT consultant specializing in Servers, Microsoft, Cisco, Switches, Routers, Firewalls, IDS, VPN, Wireless LAN, Security, and IT infrastructure and architecture.

29
Comments

Join the conversation!

Just In

You can get some $3 cable extenders
georgeou 30th Dec 2007
I actually bought the 220LE and the 270LE. They're designed for a very small chassis and small motherboards where you can't have any extra cabling taking up space so these cables barely reach. You can get some $3 cable extenders to solve the problem if you need more length though.
0 Votes
+ -
I think I will build a second computer in my case now. I will probably have to mount a second power button. I am not too worried about the lights.


If I get this done, would you care to have a look?
0 Votes
+ -
If you got pictures, send it
georgeou 24th Sep 2007
Be aware that the PSU won't fit in a standard ATX case or many MicroATX cases. It fits in some mini cases and all 1U chassis.
0 Votes
+ -
We will see what happens
nucrash 24th Sep 2007
I need to get this tablet of mine sold first, then I will buy the items.

I am still swaying back and forth on what I want to buy. I don't want the brick, but I don't want the heat either.

I will have to build myself a custom mount for the PSU as well as the ITX board, but the results would be a FTP server that is internal to my gaming rig. Though it will only have a 100 MB NIC, I won't worry about it too much.

This could get ugly, but I could hook up two LANs interally to the rig and then use them as Remotes, while using low profile GB NICs on each board and pushing transfers through the roof.

The Ideas are pouring for what I want to do, now only if I can execute.
0 Votes
+ -
Pico PSU's
http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.417/.f

They come in 60,80 & 120 and have been out for several years.

Still it good to see more choices, better equipment & lower prices.
As well as lower consumption & better efficiency
And awareness & interest in the same.....
0 Votes
+ -
I've seen those before. Those are DC units and they're expensive when you add in the external AC brick. This is a 1U unit that accepts a standard AC plug and it's a lot cleaner that way.
0 Votes
+ -
This would be the Kit
nucrash 24th Sep 2007
http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-120-power-kit?sc=8&category=13


A whopping $5.00 more.

I think I can swing it.
0 Votes
+ -
Is that unit 80 Plus rated?
georgeou 24th Sep 2007
The only thing about using an external unit is that you have to deal with a separate brick.
0 Votes
+ -
The Options Weighed...
nucrash 24th Sep 2007
Upsides
1 The internal does have advantages of not dealing with the brick
2 More power for other devices. This would be nice for that extra video card or other hard disks that might not have enough plugs from the other power supply
3 Overall the Internal is more efficient from what I can tell. I have to see the brick to know for sure.

Downsides
1 The Brick does take away heat that I would have to deal with inside the case.
2 The Brick is less wattage over all
3 The issues of not having a wide enough case are null and void.

I am debating both sides, but until I get my tablet sold, I am too short on cash to do either.
0 Votes
+ -
Penny wise
blaze1024 11th Dec 2007
You are overlooking a major issues concerning power supply efficiency. It's called loading efficiency.
A power supply rated at 80 percent efficiency is only 80% efficient under a very narrow loading band. Most power supplies need to be loaded to a minimum of 85 or 90 percent in order to meet their efficiency ratings. Anything below this and the power supply efficiency drops drastically.
For instance if you are using a 400 watt power supply and only loading it at 20 percent then the efficiency drops dramatically.

Most people have a tendency of using to large a power supply. I recently tested an Intel D201GLY board using Pico PSU-120 power supply. The main board a 3.5 inch HD and a DVD burner under load drew about 40 watts. Still not enough loading to justify a 120 watt supply. An 80 watt supply would be a closer match.

Basically, If you are trying to build an efficient system then under loading a power supply that is to large for your system is one if the biggest mistakes you can make. As my mom would say "Penny wise and Pound foolish"
0 Votes
+ -
12v x 5A = ?
GW Mahoney 24th Sep 2007
That's only a 60w supply, and if the efficiency of the brick is 75%, as many of those are, then it fails on that account too. It's a cool product anyway, though. I could see going that way for a passively cooled system.
0 Votes
+ -
Doh
nucrash 24th Sep 2007
Though I am not looking for more than 50 watts. At 75%, I could pull out 45 Watts. Would that be enough to power up that board and 2 3.5 Inch drives?

Although I need to check my math, I may want a more powerful brick.
Each 3.5" HDD uses 7-10 watts idle, 10-13 watt active, and 30W during spin-up.
0 Votes
+ -
45W will not be enough then.
nucrash 24th Sep 2007
If I run 60W, I would be better off, but then I need to make sure that my CPU doesn't pull more than 30W. Basically if I want to do this right, I will need a 120W AC to DC Brick.


After measuring my case and checking for open Hard Drive bays, I want to put two Micro ITX boards in my Gaming Rig and fill up the remaining 4 Hard Drive bays. That will push my storage to about 3.3 TB in one rig. That would be 5 500GB drive with 4 400 GB Drives. Heat dissipation might begin to be a problem.
0 Votes
+ -
Not even close
blaze1024 11th Dec 2007
That's the maximum the specifications allows for not what the drives actually draw. I just tested a 250 gig max. Idle current .7 amps active 1.5 amps....
0 Votes
+ -
George what you are quoting is the maximum the specifications allow for not what the drives actually draw. I just tested a 250 gig 7200RPM 3.5 inch HD. Idle was about 4 watts, Seek about 10 watts....

Here are some Hard Drive power consumption measurements. The highest power consumption under seek is about 14.8 watts the lowest is about 9.2. That's a far cry from the 40 watts you are claiming

http://techreport.com/articles.x/10868/13
0 Votes
+ -
It'd really be nice if there's an adapter that fits a Sparkle PSU into a standard ATX Form-Factor PSU Bay.

C'mon, vendors! It's time you start your production of 80%+ low-watt power supplies! happy This includes PC Power and Cooling! happy

I'm dying to have one of those!
0 Votes
+ -
A couple problems
nucrash 24th Sep 2007
1 That isn't 80Plus Compliant

2 External power supply still likes to burn off a lot of heat.

Still better than an internal power supply though.

NewEgg has a 60 Watt model that I am considering from "IGo Logic"

Well they used to. They did last week.
0 Votes
+ -
Where to find cases?
Tukka 24th Sep 2007
The article mentions that the SPI220LE will fit in "some" MicroATX and FlexATX chassis. Can anybody point me in the direction of such cases?
0 Votes
+ -
Thanks, but ...
Tukka 25th Sep 2007
I know how to find a list of MicroATX cases. What I don't know how to do is winnow such a list down to those cases which will support (with minimal modification) a PSU with a small form factor intended for installation in 1U rackmount chassis.
0 Votes
+ -
I'm still checking on the specific models. I'll try to find some model numbers that are confirmed to work or I'll try to find a version of the PSU that is slightly larger.
0 Votes
+ -
I noticed on Sparkle's web site the SPI250EP is listed, which might be an acceptable alternative, except I haven't seen it selling anywhere.
0 Votes
+ -
A lot of parts aren't available
georgeou 25th Sep 2007
A lot of parts aren't available when you're working off the list of 80 Plus compliant PSUs. I don't care how good the specs are; it's worthless to me if I can't buy it.
0 Votes
+ -
some further reading...
patibulo 25th Sep 2007
A few weeks ago I've encountered this article

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/181

which I've found quite interesting for those who want to learn a bit more about what you are describing here.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Finally a reasonably cheap 80 Plus power supply
stephen.schneider@... 25th Sep 2007
I still am wondering why you didn't go with 2.5" sata drives, cut your power even more.
0 Votes
+ -
I might go with flash
georgeou 25th Sep 2007
I might go with flash. 2GB flash cards are only $15 now and that's cheaper than an HDD and it uses less power.
0 Votes
+ -
MB doesn't have SATA
MWPollard 3rd Oct 2007
As he noted in the article, the board he used doesn't support SATA...yet.

The successor board, the D201GLY2, will have SATA, but it hasn't been released yet. Hopefully it won't cost much more. It'd be even better if it's a replacement for this one at the same price...
0 Votes
+ -
I now own one
trx 20th Dec 2007
I purchased one of these to put in my new HTPC. So far it works great. The fan does not run until the unit is hot enough and so far when it does it spins very slow so you can barely hear it (although I have not pushed the processor yet). The fan will stop again if it cools down enough. It's powering a Biostar TF-7050 motherboard with a AMD Athlon 64 LE-1600 (similar to a 3700+ but only 45 watts). The one problem I had is that the wires are too short. I had to mount sideways right above the motherboard IO panel so it's in between the processor and the back of the case. The power cord comes in through the back of the case and over the top of my expansion cards (sort of a tight fit).
0 Votes
+ -
You can get some $3 cable extenders
georgeou 30th Dec 2007
I actually bought the 220LE and the 270LE. They're designed for a very small chassis and small motherboards where you can't have any extra cabling taking up space so these cables barely reach. You can get some $3 cable extenders to solve the problem if you need more length though.

Join the conversation!

Formatting +
BB Codes - Note: HTML is not supported in forums
  • [b] Bold [/b]
  • [i] Italic [/i]
  • [u] Underline [/u]
  • [s] Strikethrough [/s]
  • [q] "Quote" [/q]
  • [ol][*] 1. Ordered List [/ol]
  • [ul][*] · Unordered List [/ul]
  • [pre] Preformat [/pre]
  • [quote] "Blockquote" [/quote]
ie8 fix
Click Here
ie8 fix

The best of ZDNet, delivered

ZDNet Newsletters

Get the best of ZDNet delivered straight to your inbox

Facebook Activity

White Papers, Webcasts, & Resources
ie8 fix
ie8 fix