Why the ban on mandatory RFID implants should be Federal

Summary: The California legislature recently banned employers from mandating RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) implants for their employees.  While I'm glad I'm covered in my state, why isn't this ban being implemented at the Federal level to cover every citizen?

The California legislature recently banned employers from mandating RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) implants for their employees.  While I'm glad I'm covered in my state, why isn't this ban being implemented at the Federal level to cover every citizen?  I'm not suggesting that we ban the devices; I'm suggesting that no one should be forced to stick on of these in their body just to get a job.  I've covered the issue of RFID many times before and I'm not fundamentally opposed to RFID technology or RFID implants, but I do oppose the idea that anyone should be forced to implant one in their body and it would be just as offensive if my employer asked me to tattoo a bar code on to my forehead.

It would be just as offensive if my employer asked me to tattoo a bar code on to my forehead Verichip RFID implants are worthless from a security standpoint because they're essentially passing clear text data over the radio waves and it can easily be cloned. If it's cloned, you'll have to undergo knife treatment to get a new one unless the chip is reprogrammable.  Even if Verichip stopped using clear text authentication and switched to strong NSA Suite B grade crypto, I wouldn’t want it inside my body.  Is any material item in this world worth life or limb?  If someone wants my access device and password at the point of a gun, I’d give it to them.  I don’t want them to have to cut it out of my body.

Last summer there were some issues raised about the privacy and safety of RFID enabled passports.  While the scenarios were arguably remote and the privacy concerns overblown because someone can copy the same information from a regular passport, there is no reason to have the RFID in the passport since an optical or contact based system would have the same effectiveness.  RFID in the traditional sense gives you more flexibility and convenience because of its long wireless range but the usable range for RFID passports is literally a few millimeters away.  RFID in the Passport implementation is effectively a contact based solution that has none of the flexibility but all of the security liabilities of a wireless solution.

What about the argument that we need RFID implants for our children?  I have two kids and I can tell you that RFID isn't going to make me feel any better. First of all, that RFID implant isn't going to be a "LoJack" device for children and you're not going to be able to track them down if they're abducted unless you're within a few feet of the child. Second, having the RFID implant might mean the abductor will cut it out of your child to take out the implant.  I might consider an external device hidden in a watch or something that has an active transmitter with some effective range but implants are simply out of the question.

As critical of RFID as I am, I'm not so sure why some people are so anti-RFID that they don't even want the devices to exist in the first place.  RFID implants can make sense in medical areas. If it makes it easier for emergency workers to identify a patient’s special needs, that’s great so long as the consumer gets to voluntarily place it in their own body.  There’s also new technology being developed for diabetics where the RFID sensor can wirelessly report glucose levels without you having to prick your finger every day.  RFID inventory tracking and logistics can simplify and automate many things so we must distinguish between good RFID devices and bad ones.

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  • Who is requiring an implant?

    Can you please cite some examples of actual companies requiring RFID implants?

    Lastly, do you honestly think employees will be rushing to work for a company that requires one?

    If you really want to get yourself into a tizzy, why don?t you discuss the use of lie detectors in employee screening?
    TheTruthGiver
    • It was in the LA

      "CityWatcher.com, a Cincinnati video surveillance company, has required employees who work in its secure data center to have a microchip implanted in an arm."

      That was in the LATimes article I linked to in the first paragraph.

      I'm not sure why you're grilling me on this unless you think an employer has the right to mandate this.
      georgeou
      • I think his concern was who wanted such a thing.

        I remember hearing "Mandatory RFID Implants" on the radio from time to time, but I can't really tell who or what it was for. At the time, I thought it was going to be for sex offenders or for a early release prison program.
        nucrash
      • CityWatcher.com

        Funny...googling "CityWatcher.com" results in lots of hits, but it doesn't seem to be a real URL. At least it's not loading for me. An urban legend in the making, perhaps?

        gary
        gdstark13
        • who is citywatcher.com

          At http://name.space.xs2.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl I found:

          Registrant:
          citywatcher.com
          1628 Blair Ave
          Cincinnati, OH 45207
          US

          Domain Name: CITYWATCHER.COM

          They are real and apparently they are requiring some employees to be chipped. Not a place I will be sending my resume.
          monty.henderson@...
          • RE: who is citywatcher.com

            Curious that their url seems to be dead. Too much hate mail? I agree...they would never get my resume either. A person would have to be really hard up - or stupid.

            gary
            gdstark13
    • re: Who is requiring an implant?

      its called the "thin end of the wedge" someone somewhere will want to do to their employess and if that progresses unabated, the government will also want access to the data as well - wait for the implanted GPS chip.
      deaf_e_kate
    • Specious argument!

      .
      [b][i]"...Lastly, do you honestly think employees will be rushing to work for a company that requires one?..."[/i][/b]

      That is a specious argument. What will workers do when the best employers require implanted RFID chips? Or, most of them? Or, all in a given small town? Should this really be controlled by market forces? Using such an argument, you could justify sweatshops too.

      There was a story not too long ago where an company fired employees who failed to quit smoking when told to do so. Of course, there WAS a rationale. Higher sickness rate. Higher absenteeism. Higher employer-contributed health insurance cost. Makes sense, to the company.

      Employers will get away with whatever they are allowed to get away with.

      You forget yourself Sir! Complacent attitudes like yours did not produce, and will not maintain, an America free of tyranny!
      TechExec2
      • Need to add a few lines to this.

        "Employers (and the government) will get away with whatever they are allowed to get away with.

        You forget yourself Sir! Complacent attitudes like yours did not produce, and will not maintain, an America free of tyranny! (Labor Unions and the Second Amendment have!)"

        Cameras on the streets watching, chips in our body doing god knows what, Big Brother anyone?
        crawdad2k
        • Labor unions

          What labor union ever protected an employee from anything....excep seeing all of their pay?
          monty.henderson@...
          • Labor unions get a bad rap ...

            because they are just as they are subject to corruption just like government and corporate positions of authority.

            But the truth is that unions are responsible for many things we take for granted, including overtime pay, vacation pay, and written benefits information. Anybody who wants to return to the 1800's style of corporate slavery has to be crazy.
            terry flores
  • No need for a federal regulation yet

    I think that at this point a federal ban is not needed since its not a problem yet, and I don't see it becoming one because no one is forcing anyone to work for a company that might require an RFID implant. I prefer the government stay out of something like that until there is a clear threat that needs to be addressed and for this that won't happen until more then the odd company starts making RFID implants a requirement.
    jfp
    • what world do you live in

      Here where I live, people are so desperate for jobs that they will put up with any indignity just to get that 8 bucks an hour. This is what government is for, to protect the meek from the mighty. Ban forced implants. Sheesh.
      baubo
      • You're an Idiot!!

        If you would honestly allow anyone to implant anything in your body just so you can get a job at 8 bucks an hour then obviously you like having people be able to control what you do on a daily basis. As for me, there's no one that I will allow that type of invasive entry into my life. If I worked for a company that all of a sudden decided to start using these implants or required them to get hired then they could simply take their job and put it where the sun don't shine. I would never allow any person or goverment agency to implant anything inside my body.
        smithcomputer@...
        • Before name calling

          Make sure you've correctly read the post. baubo is saying that the government SHOULD ban RFID tags, because people in his town are so desperate for jobs that they would submit themselves to the indignity of being implanted. Not everyone is in the position to turn down work, so they need laws to protect them from this abuse. Even if it's just one company that made these tags mandatory, it sets a precedent, and that is dangerous.
          boony
        • Have You Ever Been Hungry?

          I doubt it.
          Sickthing
          • Ever thought of moving

            to where jobs are?

            I doubt it.

            The one thing that just kills me is people whine about lack of jobs but never
            concider moving to an are that has low unemployement and are desperately
            searching for workers.

            Back in 2002 I moved from Florida to Wyoming because there were no jobs in my
            field in Florida. They even paid my moving expences.

            If you aren' willing to go where the work is, then quit complaining.
            middle of nowhere
          • Doesn't moving require money?

            if you have no job, you have no money, if you have no money, you can't move. Not everyone is in a field where an employer is likely to pay a moving expense, or even interview someone from out of town.
            Dcarm
          • Boot Straps

            I pulled myself up by my bootstraps. I worked 20 years with lupus, vasculitis and diabetes. Those three led to many other things. I grew up on the south side of Jackson, Ms. Worked 3 jobs while going to college and owned a home at the age of 20. Life throws things at many of us, not because we did anything wrong it just works out that way. People MUST take jobs they don't want. If you're on the street and have a pregnant girlfriend are you going to take the implant or are you going to hitch hike and hope you find a job some place else. You've gotta be young or born with a silver foot in your mouth. I'm okay, I have a pension but I'm very lucky my company provided one. I couldn't even qualify for SS disability. I can stand up, barely. I can sit in a chair though and that means I could work as a ticket taker at a toll both. You need to find out what the world is like out there. I should be earning over 150,000 a year but I'm earning less than $25 for nothing but bad genes. I use to believe in the boot straps thing too, until I was in the hospital at the age of 30 with a stroke. Life happens and it's not always good.
            Sickthing
          • Northern Wyoming......

            ..... is where I've lived for the past 30+ years. So GREETS to a fellow Wyomingite!

            I understand eggs-act-lee what you are saying there, but I myself would have moved on several occaisions over the years here, but simply put, I couldn't because of lack of funds. It's actually possible to become a prisoner in an area when you don't have bucks!
            You are truly fortunate to have found a job that offers those kind of bennies in this state my friend.
            SenlacHill