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Amazon, Show Me the Kindle Demographics!

By | July 30, 2010, 8:10am PDT

Summary: Amazon’s continued secrecy about device sales and demographics will become an ongoing issue unless the company comes clean about who their core audience really is.

Amazon’s continued secrecy about device sales and demographics will become an ongoing issue unless the company comes clean about who their core audience really is.

Yesterday, Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos told USA Today that he was “stunned” by the volume of Kindle e-book sales. Within the next nine to 12 months, he expects that sales of Kindle e-books will surpass paperback and hardcover sales combined. 140 Kindle e-books are now being sold for every 100 “real” books at Amazon.

That’s a major achievement for the online bookseller and retailer. But it doesn’t tell us the entire story.

Indeed, the content at Amazon has been flying off the digital shelves. The problem is that the entire story as it is being told by the company doesn’t completely add up.

Now, I’m not going to deny Bezos his disclosed ratio of real books to e-books being sold. I’m going to accept them at face value, without question. What I am concerned about as it affects the Kindle hardware platform’s viability is WHO is generating those sales figures.

To date, Amazon has never disclosed how many Kindle devices it has sold. And while it has consistently boasted of huge volumes of content sales, it has never disclosed what the demographics are of Kindle users and the content that generates those sales. We don’t even know what percentage of iPad users are buying Kindle books versus the device owners.

And there’s a whole bunch of other things we don’t know, which includes the comparison of gross revenue from hardcovers versus e-books at Amazon, and what the statistical breakdown is between self-published and publishing house material, and what genres of material are doing the best.

However, in my mind, the biggest indicator as to the true health of the Kindle hardware platform would be the total percentage of Kindle devices in the wild which are generating most of the content sales. And we have absolutely no idea what that number is.

From my experience, I know that the Pareto Principle is frequently a factor in not only business problem determination but also one which comes up in economics frequently as well. So I think it is certainly plausible that somewhere around 20 percent of Kindle users are generating 80 percent of the platform’s sales.

Why would this determine if the hardware platform has a good prognosis or not? Because if Wall Street and Amazon’s investors actually knew this, and understood how dwindling margins on the hardware affect profit, then as a hardware platform Kindle has very little to look forward to no matter how well the content sales business is doing.

Why do I think the Pareto Principle comes into play here? Well, as someone who knows a bunch of bookish people who own Kindles and other eReader devices, I know that they are “super reader” types that can consume upwards of 20 books a month. However I also know that these people are probably in the minority.

Many people who have bought Kindles probably bought it initially for the coolness factor, and lot of them are only occasional or light readers have probably shoved their eReader into a shelf somewhere, such as that of own ZDNet Education Columnist, Chris Dawson’s.

We know that America, as a nation, is not really big on recreational reading. Ask any educator or librarian and they’ll tell gladly tell you the hard and cold facts about the sad state of recreational reading among Gen X and Gen Y. Most hardcore readers are 40 years old and older. Way older. And even among that group, they are a minority.

If only 1 to 2 million active Kindles are in the wild — and by virtually every analyst’s estimate, there are now easily two times more iPads than 33 months worth of Kindles in just the first three to four months of iPad sales — then it would be safe to assume that if every single Kindle owner bought one book per quarter, then at least 1.5 million books would be sold every quarter.

That’s not a realistic number since we know that there’s probably a “core” group of Kindle owners that is generating most of the sales, but humor me for a minute.

If 1.5 million registered Kindles exist in the wild and we apply the Pareto Principle, then 300,000 Kindles are generating 80 percent of the platform’s sales. That doesn’t look particularly good for a revenue growth model if eventually the margins on the devices falls to zero.

Amazon cannot continue to make money on Kindle if such a small percentage of their users are generating most of the sales. It means as a content distribution model it makes a great deal of sense for them to get their software out to iPads and Android Tablets, but to depend on such a small group of device owners to generate most of their their sales? I dunno.

If I’m wrong — and I really hope I am in this case — then we’ve got nothing to worry about from Kindle as a device platform. If a broad distribution of Kindle owners are really generating huge volumes of sales, and things aren’t as lopsided as I am proposing, then Amazon, show us the Kindle demographics. But if the company continues to be secretive about these things, then we can only assume that there is a big reason why they aren’t telling us, and we have to assume the worst.

Does the Pareto Principle apply to Kindle e-book sales and is Amazon afraid to reveal its demographics and sales volumes for a reason? Talk Back and Let Me Know.

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Jason Perlow, Sr. Technology Editor at ZDNet is a technologist with over two decades of experience with integrating large heterogeneous multi-vendor computing environments in Fortune 500 companies. A long-time computer enthusiast starting the age of 13 with his first Apple ][ personal computer, he began his freelance writing career starting at ZD Sm@rt Reseller in 1996 and has since authored numerous guest columns for ZDNet Enterprise and Ziff-Davis Internet. Jason was previously Senior Technology Editor for Linux Magazine, where he wrote about Open Source issues from 1999 to 2008.

In his spare time, Jason is an avid amateur chef and food writer, where his work reviewing New Jersey restaurants has appeared in The New York Times. He is also the founder of the popular food web site eGullet and blogs about restaurants and cooking at OffTheBroiler.com.

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RE: Amazon, Show Me the Kindle Demographics!
nomorebs Updated - 4th Aug 2010
@trickytom2: no, but he is a Google and Apple stockholder. Plus, he is a genius for clickbaiting, though his posts are usually absurd
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Why do you care? Does Amazon?
trickytom2 30th Jul 2010
I've read numerous articles by authors who scream for Kindle sales figures.

Amazon is a buisness. If the Kindle loses significant money for them, they'll drop it. If not, they'll keep it.

Frankly, I don't see Amazon giving two shits that you want their Kindle sales figures.
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@trickytom2

I agree - who cares? Two comments:

When I travel, the bulk of my laptop bag is taken up by my laptop, and one or two books to read on the plane and in the hotel. An iPad doesn't have sufficient computing power to replace my laptop, but a Kindle can replace the book(s). IMO that's not a negative for iPad but it's a definite plus for Kindle.

I've said for years I would never buy a device that ties me to one merchant, be it iPod, Kindle, Nook, etc. However, between the fact that I can easily read Kindle books on any device, and the newly lowered price of the Kindle, I've changed my thinking and ordered one of the new models. As Tom says, I trust Amazon to make their own business decisions. I think Kindle has reached a point where it's here to stay, but whether or not it's profitable for Amazon doesn't matter to me one way or the other.
is bragged up by the company as a success story. Especially a publicly traded company. Because it makes the company more attractive to investors.

You can make book on the fact that Kindle sales suck, precisely because Amazon won't tell you what the sales numbers are.
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e-Reader Poll Says it all.
kyron.gustafson@... 30th Jul 2010
Give it up Jason. There is a market for dedicated e-Readers.

Just look at the ZDnet poll by Jason Hiners. 85% of the people polled say there is a place for dedicated e-Readers.
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@kyron.gustafson@... Yeah, well, New Coke and the Edsel were developed after extensive professional market research said that they'd sell like hotcakes.

And you're citing an on-line poll with no sample control?

With that kind of self-selection, i would wager that out of "I want one" people and "Who cares?" people, a higher percentage of the first group voted than did from the latter.
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Nice hard facts.
trickytom2 30th Jul 2010
@fairportfan

Oh, well, if you "would wager", that's good enough for me, considering that you're not really wagering anything.
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Ongoing Issue?
trickytom2 30th Jul 2010
I think this is your issue, Jason. Nobody else seems to care. Most people pick a device and go about their lives, independent of Amazon's Kindle sales.

What are you going to do with the data? Present to their Board?

"If I?m wrong ? and I really hope I am in this case ? then we?ve got nothing to worry about from Kindle as a device platform."

WTF? Have you been "worrying" about the Kindle? Does it impact your life, somehow?

Again, if the device is wanted, it will succeed; if not, it will fail. Stop worrying about it.
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@trickytom2 It seems like the one who is the most emotionally affected is you, Tom. I'm simply making the same observations that many other analysts have and collected them. A lot of people care about these issues from a pure business perspective, particularly the publishing industry.
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Perhaps...
trickytom2 30th Jul 2010
@jperlow

If you HAD the sales-figures, we would read them, but you're spending time telling us about sales-information you aren't able to get. When you get the sales figures, we'll read them.
@jperlow
and not content sales? I'm somewhat surprised by this.
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@jperlow

You still haven't explained why you cared enough to write an article about it.

I have to agree with some of the other posters: Who cares? It's Amazon's business, not yours.
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I think that . . .
JLHenry 30th Jul 2010
@jperlow

in this case it's a valid question for you Jason. You are the one who keeps using the word worry. What's up? Are you having second thoughts about the iPad? Does it bother you that if e-readers take off, that somehow it negates your reasons to get an iPad?

Don't worry about it, and don't obsess over it. If the market happens, it happens. looking at the new Kindle price, I may just get one (My B-day is on Wednesday . . . happy ). Or a nook, since I've already started translating my library to ePub ('Course, most of it is in .prc already, so you can see my quandry).

Unless of course the new slates (Android or W7) turn out to be pretty good, then all bets are off . . . .
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@jperlow It's e-books, not e-readers that matter. Who cares how many Kindles sell? Even Amazon doesn't care a whole lot, since they're giving away Kindle software for other hardware platforms -- which is as likely to eat into Kindle sales as it is to boost them. It's a sensible strategy, given, as you yourself point out, that margins on hardware tend to fall. However, the potential size of the market for e-books is at least as big as the current size of the market for books, magazines and newspapers put together. How many e-books do Amazon have to sell to make more money out of the content than out of the device? Probably not many. Amazon, I'm sure, would like to be the dominant channel through which electronic books, magazines and newspapers reach readers -- and you have to admit, they're in with a chance. If you're looking for someone to worry about, why not worry about IKEA instead? What's going to happen to sales of their classic Billy bookcase when all this pans out?
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RE: Amazon, Show Me the Kindle Demographics!
Pete "athynz" Athens 30th Jul 2010
I'm wondering why people like trickytom2 and kyron.gustafson are so worried about this... personally I'd like to know how many of the Kindles Amazon is selling too.
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Not worried...annoyed
trickytom2 30th Jul 2010
@athynz

I want' meaningful articlesk, not these "sales figure" articles that seem to have been creeping into ZDnet lately.

Personally, I could care less if Amazon never sold another unit; I have no attachment to the company, which is why these articles annoy me. If this was an investment-site, I could understand it, but its not.
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RE: Amazon, Show Me the Kindle Demographics!
Pete "athynz" Athens 30th Jul 2010
@trickytom2 I have to admit I'm curious to see how many they have sold - just for shits and grins really... but I do see your point.

But how many articles here recently have been meaningful and how many have been nothing more than clickbait? This one isn't too bad but there are some that are quite annoying - it's like if the word Apple is in the headline it's almost guaranteed to be clicked and commented on hundreds of times.
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@athynz
They're not worried. It's the complete opposite.

Why would you like to know?
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This is a case of . . .
JLHenry 30th Jul 2010
@athynz

How many razors did they sell? Who cares, if their profit is in the blades, and other razors can use their blades . . .
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RE: Amazon, Show Me the Kindle Demographics!
Pete "athynz" Athens 30th Jul 2010
@JLHenry I could care less how many razors they have sold - I would like to know how many Kindles have been sold...
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Are we . . .
JLHenry 30th Jul 2010
@athynz

Being particularly dense today? I used what is commonly referred to as an analogy, using Razors to denote kindles, and blades to denote books . . .

And if THAT was your attempt at sarcasm, well . . . Let's just say that you should keep your day job, 'Kay?
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Why must amazon tell "bloggers"
Stan57 30th Jul 2010
Why must amazon tell "bloggers" their sales figures? Amazon is under no obligation to tell anyone except the share holders anything.
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Exactly...
trickytom2 30th Jul 2010
@Stan57 As if the Amazon Board of Directors is sitting around worried... "Anderson, did you get those quarterlies over to Jason Perlow?".
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@Stan57
and no one would care if amazon's pr wouldn't constantly shout how much of an unbelievable sales success the kindle is and yet they refuse to give any hard numbers. odd, isn't it?

sounds like as if they have been lying about it from day one. that's why we want to know, no company should be able to get away with such a blatant lie.
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Can we get someone else to write articles about the Kindle who does not despite them so much and is not so emotionally invested in the iPad? Look at this guy's article history... it's absurd. We all get it. You hate them and want them gone... and yet your predictions of imminent failure and everyone switching to Apple don't seem to be happening.
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No one doesn't want an iPad...
trickytom2 30th Jul 2010
@peterseb80

I WANT THOSE KINDLE STATS, AND I WANT THEM RIGHT NOW! I must prove that no one wants this device, for it then follows that all humans desire an iPad!

How dare Amazon keep me in the dark! I have every right to insinuate myself into their business and demand that they produce financial information... I'm a iPad-user, after all.
The hardware has always been a vehicle for content sales. It's the razor and blade business model. Amazon could take a loss on the hardware and come out ahead selling ebooks.
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RE: Amazon, Show Me the Kindle Demographics!
betty.handlin@... 30th Jul 2010
I am not sure what point you are trying to make about the sales figures and Amazon's profitability. I use the Kindle app on a tablet pc and am quite happy with it. It makes them money only when I buy their ebooks. So what is wrong with that?
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I'm not sure that equating the sales of the Kindle vs the sales of the iPad. They are vastly different items and not all Apple early adopters are readers.
I'm one of those "super reader" types and I will agree that there is probably a core group that does the majority of the purchasing, but I don't think that the Kindle is in danger of going anywhere because of it.
If we are to use an Apple analogy I'm pretty sure that there is a core group of iTunes users that account for a majority of the purchases and the rest download from other sources or only occasionally download from iTunes. I don't think Apple is worried about the sales of the iPod.
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why you demographics are incorrect
DadsPad 30th Jul 2010
While I believe it is Amazon's decision to release sales data, it would be good to know in general figures.

You do not seem to understand the baby boomer generation. While all of us oldtimers do not read alot, we grew up diffently than the later generations.

All we had available to get information was in book/magazine/newspaper format. Want to get information for a school report? Encylopedias, remember them, it was before the internet. Want the latest news, needed to pick up a newspaper. Wanted to learn electronics or computers, books and magazines were all there were.

Is it any wonder that we read a lot? Something else you might consider, I talk to a number of people around my age, when the subject of eBook readers comes up, they tend to mention that one of their kids/relatives wants to by them an eBook reader. Maybe that is increasing sales. It is hard to buy something condidered usefull for parents/relatives when younger generations are so electronic. Another reason is arthritis and other joint problems can make it uncomfortable to read sometimes.

I just was able to convince my wife I could use one, guess which one I have ordered?

The newly released Kindle (3?)
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Oh what bull. I read maybe 10 books a year. I just ordered my first Kindle (the wi-fi 3), and can't wait to get my hands on it. I read ebooks on my iPhone and PC and have not a shred of interest in the iPad. There's every kind of user under the sun, and only people who opinionate (my new word ala Sarah Palin and Shakespeare) and fulminate for a living give a damn about sales numbers. I don't believe for a minute that Amazon's board or shareholders give a hoot.
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Just a note...
mrdatahs 30th Jul 2010
I definitely don't fall into the light reader category happy I just abandoned my physical Kindle for the Kindle App elsewhere and consume quite a bit of Amazon content that way.

And a note to the Kindle faithful who have responded with angst and agony above - Jason's right. For 95% of us, a traditional e-reader simply can't compete with a converged device, whether a smartphone, tablet, computer, or otherwise.

Chris Dawson
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@mrdatahs

IMO your post validates Amazon's success with Kindle. Although the physical device isn't right for your needs, you're still using their app to read content you've purchased from them. Win-win. And for those who want something smaller, lighter, cheaper, better in sunlight, or whatever, they can buy the Kindle for an attractive price that hopefully leaves room for the converged device they want too.

I'm in the middle - I want a converged device like a tablet, but iPad is missing features I need and it can't replace my laptop. So for $140, I can get a basic Kindle to hold me over until I can find a converged device that meets my needs. And when I find that device, I'll install the Kindle app on it and still have access to all my content.

At $140, we're even considering buying a Kindle solely to hold product manuals, instructions, etc. We'd just leave it around the office for whoever needs access to that type of material. I'm thinking Amazon is going to sell a zillion of these.
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To whom this is an issue?
wheres_my_stuff 30th Jul 2010
In what sense this is an issue? To whom? Don't they have the right to keep their sales numbers and customer profiles?

How does it have anything to do with 'coming clean'? Are they doing anything dirty that they might 'come clean'?
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"Does the Pareto Principle apply to Kindle e-book sales and is Amazon afraid to reveal its demographics and sales volumes for a reason? "

No.... and No.

Jeez... seriously, ytf do you care so much? Are you a major shareholder of Amazon stock? Seriously, they can sell whatever they want and if it didn't fit their long term strategy they wouldn't be pouring resources into developing new models and feature upgrades (check out the new UGC metadata available in the new kindle). Did you confuse the topic here with Microsoft and the KIN.

Your speculation around applying Pareto here is pure fiction.
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I'm a computer programmer. I have bought loser early eReaders of the past which are now shoved on a shelf somewhere. But not the Kindle. The Kindle is now my book. I've been a loyal Amazon customer for a long time. I've bought almost all of my books there for as long as they existed, including used books. My house is full of books after decades of buying and reading them. I would not call myself a super-reader at all. I read 1-3 books per month depending on the size of the books and how much reading time I have. I bought the Kindle and I love it for reading. If I know a book has illustrations I want, esp. color illustrations, or if I think other family members would like to read it, I buy a physical book. For my own reading I buy Amazon ebooks. I have a friend that had a Kindle first and then an iPad, and he still prefers the Kindle for reading books and carries both around with him. And re reading in general - my whole extended family reads. Only one reads more than 4 books per month. Most are like me, reading 1-3 books per month, usually 1-2. We range in ages from 14 to 75. So far I am the only one with a Kindle but I have recommended it to them and I may give them my Kindle 2 when I buy the Kindle 3. Re iPad - awesome device and if I was rich I would have one but I think I would still use a Kindle for books.
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Everybody calm down
twirth5 30th Jul 2010
Have any you ever heard of the idiom "food for thought?"
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I'm with Perlow
Thad McIlroy, The Future of Publishing 30th Jul 2010
It's amusing to see how Amazon HAS succeeded in polarizing the argument, very much as Apple does. Either you're with us or you're against us. Why would anyone write "if the device is wanted, it will succeed; if not, it will fail. Stop worrying about it"? Do they work for Amazon? Nope. They're one of the folks that have bought into Kindling and now feel compelled to defend it.

I'm happy that God gave us e-books. The more formats, the merrier. It's not paper OR digital, good electrons OR "dead trees". It's the luxury of having either/or/both available. What a boon to the ******** reading public.

But you're spot-on Mr. Perlow. Amazon has worked hard to put itself at the center of the e-book universe, and with power come responsibilities.

As a journalist and analyst, tracking where things are heading in the industry, I serve my clients. They NEED to know the reality beneath the hype. Dear readers: please put yourselves in my clients' shoes. Many, many jobs depend on them making informed investment choices on the level of support they provide to e-book technology. For my clients, if they followed the Bezos hype machine they'd lay off most of their current staff and replace them with 25% as many e-book technologists. And then they would go out of business. They tell me that the demand TODAY is nowhere near as large as Bezos makes it seem.

But they need to be prepared for the future. So what is the reality beneath the hype? Bezos doesn't tell his shareholders any more than he tells us. There is NO WAY to get this data unless you work in senior management at Amazon. Even if I want to purchase 10,000 shares of this publicly-traded company I will not get the answers.

I do know that Amazon no longer makes any money on the hardware, and often discounts e-books by large margins. This is a (perhaps wise) ploy to sacrifice short-term margin for long-term market share. But it inflates sales and concentrates the sales with a single vendor. If I then rely on the no-data-but-lots-of-hyperbole of this one vendor to project the whole market picture I will have a skewed impression.

Amazon, show me the Kindle numbers. You owe it to your shareholders, and to publishers, authors, booksellers...you owe it to the whole magical ecosystem that makes it possible for your grateful customers to deservedly enjoy the Kindle experience.
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RE: Amazon, Show Me the Kindle Demographics!
Thad McIlroy, The Future of Publishing 30th Jul 2010
Made my day! The "********" in my original comment was "h-a-r-d-c-0-r-e reading public". Your comment engine blocked it. Save the children!
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@Thad McIlroy, The Future of Publishing We have a serious spam problem we're trying to re-mediate, we're still ironing out the issues. That's one of the flag words, unfortunately.
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Spam . . .
JLHenry 30th Jul 2010
@jperlow

And I, for one, say thanks. It was really getting bad for a while. I've noticed a major improvement over the last couple of weeks . . .
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As I've said on these posts before, I believe the questions raised are academic. I feel that most non-******** readers, including me, will never purchase books online until they are as cheap or cheaper than paperbacks and the purchased copies can be passed on to others in the same way that printed matter can now be handled. My wife is a dedicated reader who reads 4-5 books per month, and she won't buy any book downloads, even though we have iPods that display them very well and conveniently because she can't pass them on to her daughters and friends.
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@K4thwright You hit my sentiment right on. I read about 3-4 books a month, but the majority of them I borrow from others or lend to others. Until I can get electronic copies cheaper, it is just not worth it for me. I have read several classic books on my iphone and prior to that on an old Windows Mobile phone, but they were either free or quite cheap. I would probably buy an ebook reader if the content was cheaper, but if not, I will continue to buy printed copies so that others can read them too. The value is just not there for me yet.
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I have a Kindle and an iPad. My interest in how many other people buy a Kindle? zero.
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RE: Amazon, Show Me the Kindle Demographics!
Graham Ellison 30th Jul 2010
Nicely reasoned article, Jason. Did I really just type that... here? Okay. I also agree that the 80/20 rule does indeed apply in this case. It usually does.

But I really don't share your fears, concerns, emotions over the future of Kindle. I'm a strict corporate Darwinist, and I believe in the power of good business models, as well as the ultimate fallibility of poor, or non existent ones. I was also confident that Bezos was playing a losing game from day one. What amused and annoyed me in equal measure was his early claim that he was doing a deal with the California Board of Education [I believe] to supply all their text books. I also believe he was some way down the road in his attempt to set this in motion.

Now, I live in the UK most of the time and really couldn't care less for the educational needs of a few million kids in the richest state in the richest country in the world. There are more pressing educational matters further afield.

But I did go to school once myself, am a graphic designer by training, and I love art. So, immediately I wondered how he planned to present logos, art and stuff like medical text diagrams... in x number of shades of grey!

It was always such a ludicrous business plan, it was actually an insult to every living soul with a pair of eyes that see. But how many people pointed that out?

So for that reason, but not that reason alone, I expected the entire Kindle experiment to have niche market appeal with closet readers who thought they were ahead of the curve [but didn't really know where the curve was], peak within a couple of years, and that it would ultimately fail. Why could I be so certain? Because it's in its DNA to do so. Some products and services simply are.

Bezo sis a city man turned book seller who fancied his place in a tech world. He saw Jobs and others doing stuff and he wanted so to play at that level. And up to this point, I'm with him. Why not? But even though he has the money to throw at a project this size, and a lot of pull in some circles, he isn't a tech visionary - not by a country mile. The business model was utterly flawed from day one because the tech convergence only gave him black and white screens. And the Victorians had colour plates, right?

But Bezos also strikes me as a man who wears blinkers. A lot of city types do. Take the length of time it took Wall St to wake up to Apple. I swear half of them still don't understand Apple's business model, or why it works.

So, thank you for your intuitive assessment Jason. I agree with you. It's a lemon. A company as big as Amazon only hides negative news in a market that loves success. But I also enjoy being right. I don't always break open a bottle of vintage Schadenfreude every time Ballmer or Dell or another of my favourite targets falls on their ass, and in truth I hope the Kindle survives to become a colour book reader one day, at least now its design finally looks as if it was made after 1974.

But I'm not hopeful. Apple's iOS has eight revenue streams. The [apparently 'limited'] iPad and the [apparently 'flawed'] iPhone 4 are selling in serious numbers. The income from those sales is going to fuel the kind of development and deal power with publishers that Bezos could only dream of.

When iPad 2 arrives in April 2011 with more storage and a Retina screen, the whole world will look very different. Ballmer will be quietly [?] retired. His replacement will be wishing he'd got something better than the currently planned ??OS to play with. Dell will be rethinking the Streak and its sibling, and HP will be trying to push the development roadmap their Palm based baby, so they can start earning some tablet income.

Where will Kindle be in all this? Women of a certain age who don't want to risk catching a virus on the net will be saving up for them... in their tens!
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'Cause he kissed your ass!
trickytom2 2nd Aug 2010
@jperlow

Ohhhh, what a great response! You're the man, you agree with me...
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RE: Amazon, Show Me the Kindle Demographics!
Graham Ellison 3rd Aug 2010
@jperlow Thanks Jason. All things considered, that's a very decent response which I particularly appreciate.
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Do you not have an editor? What editorial chief in his right mind would allow you to waste 900 words wailing about your disappointment that an Amazon PR person hasn't handed you a sheaf of sales and marketing data? As a professional journalist for three decades, I'm embarrassed for you. If you want a story, get off your hindquarters and out on the street and dig for it. No more whining about what news you don't have, please.
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@Cardinal177 A professional journalist for three decades would put his real name behind these comments.
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I dunno . . .
JLHenry 2nd Aug 2010
@jperlow

Maybe He's Famous enough that if he revealed who he was, it would cause major disruptions to ZDNet as his followers all came here to read what he wrote . . .

Or he could just be a blowhard wink .
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RE: Amazon, Show Me the Kindle Demographics!
nomorebs Updated - 4th Aug 2010
@trickytom2: no, but he is a Google and Apple stockholder. Plus, he is a genius for clickbaiting, though his posts are usually absurd

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