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Dear Google: Here's your roadmap out of Android Honeycomb hell

By | April 28, 2011, 11:46am PDT

Summary: Google’s Honeycomb tablet OS is rife with problems. But the issues extend to the entire Android ecosystem. Here’s how they can dig their way out.

Google’s Honeycomb tablet OS is rife with problems. But the issues extend to the entire Android ecosystem. Here’s how they can dig their way out.

Well, my tough love article on Android Honeycomb yesterday has fuelled the fires on an interesting pair of responses from my ZDNet colleagues. I suspect that with the chord that it has struck with a lot of folks that at least a few more are still in the works.

Ed Burnette, probably one of the smartest guys I know when it comes to Android development, suggests that Honeycomb isn’t rotten to the core, but rather, the fundamentals are good, and it needs a year of tweaking and another generation to become appropriately productized.

Okay, I agree with that on principle.

However, he also notes that Google’s tablet OS has been the unfortunate recipient of “Malignment” by writers like myself and WSJ’s Walt Mossberg (who essentially issued the kiss of death to Honeycomb’s LG’s G-Slate today) and John Paczkowsi that are giving the software a terrible reputation a la the mass condemnation of Microsoft’s Windows Vista from a few years ago. Riiiiiiiiiiight.

Also Read: Is Honeycomb Android’s Vista? (Dev Connection)

Look, Ed. There’s a big difference between Vista and Honeycomb — Vista was a product based on 20 years of development and success with previous OS products by Microsoft and a much, much larger scale project that was plagued by substantial cases of managerial misalignment and organizational differences between the goals of the Consumer division and the Server division.

Members of the mainstream and technology press, myself included, were fully justified by beating the hell out of Microsoft for releasing it in the state it was in. The implementation was awful. Even Ballmer himself was pretty much forced to admit it when Windows 7 came out.

Also Read: Ding Dong, The Vista’s Dead!

On the other hand, Windows Server 2008 was excellent, worked pretty much flawlessly and used the same kernel and drivers and basic systems architecture as Vista. The difference? Once it left the “Core” team at the company and got in the hands of the consumer division, it got mucked up, and it took Microsoft some time to clean up their act and put out a unified front and a clear strategy for both the Server and Desktop products with Server 2008 R2 and Windows 7.

Google has a totally different set of problems. First, Android is an operating system that has only been under development realistically since 2003. While it is based on heavily on Java and Linux, to suggest that it is a mature product even in its smartphone implementation — where it is currently enjoying a vast amount of success is a stretch.

By comparison, Apple’s iOS has only been productized since 2007, but we have to remember that the technologies it uses is based on continuous work by successive generations at NeXT and Apple since 1985.

As sophisticated and as powerful the technologies in Android are, there’s an awful lot of continuity and stability that Cupertino has to its advantage which Google doesn’t have the benefit of relying on. Google doesn’t build OSes traditionally as part of its core product strategy. This is a completely new game for them, relatively, compared to Apple and Microsoft.

Additionally, Apple has virtually no hardware variation to contend with because there are no OEMs. Nobody has to build custom kernels and software overlays to support 40+ branded flavors of iPhones and iPads. Google, on the other hand, has many OEMs that do. And it appears that if you want to stabilize your experience and get the most out of Honeycomb today, you need to root your device and swap out your kernel.

That’s just fine if you’re a developer like Ed that knows exactly what’s going to blow up in his face or a very knowledgeable end-user like Scott who enjoys tinkering with Linux and firmware and are willing to work around issues to make things work.

Also Read: Motorola XOOM versus Galaxy Tab 7, A Study in Usability

But consumers aren’t Android developers like Ed Burnette or veteran Linux system admins like Scott Raymond. If Google really thinks they can air their dirty underwear on their front porch and expect consumers to try it on like they do with GMail and other “Perpetual Beta” products, then they have all of their priorities completely out of whack.

[Next: Google, Here's Your Sign.]»

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Jason Perlow, Sr. Technology Editor at ZDNet, is a technologist with over two decades of experience integrating large heterogeneous multi-vendor computing environments in Fortune 500 companies.

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Jason Perlow, Sr. Technology Editor at ZDNet is a technologist with over two decades of experience with integrating large heterogeneous multi-vendor computing environments in Fortune 500 companies. A long-time computer enthusiast starting the age of 13 with his first Apple ][ personal computer, he began his freelance writing career starting at ZD Sm@rt Reseller in 1996 and has since authored numerous guest columns for ZDNet Enterprise and Ziff-Davis Internet. Jason was previously Senior Technology Editor for Linux Magazine, where he wrote about Open Source issues from 1999 to 2008.

In his spare time, Jason is an avid amateur chef and food writer, where his work reviewing New Jersey restaurants has appeared in The New York Times. He is also the founder of the popular food web site eGullet and blogs about restaurants and cooking at OffTheBroiler.com.

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RE: Dear Google: Here's your roadmap out of Android Honeycomb hell
SATURNINA 13th Sep
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What are you blathering about now? Honeycomb works just fine.
@Droid101 Yes, we have always been at war with Eastasia.
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RationalGuy 28th Apr 2011
@jperlow

Choco rations are going up.
@jperlow

jperlow, who are you talking to, there is not and never was a person named Droid101. He/she never existed, and of course we have always been at war with Eastasia.
I don't agree with your argument about Vista and how many years were behind it vs Honeycomb.
For starters, Google has stolen untold numbers of Microsoft developers and other technologists. They have raked in staff from many various companies so they are not "behind" anyone.
I mean they have 20 years of Linux behind them. It has nothing to do with it being a "new" venture but a total mis-management of the project.

As for your comparisons to Vista, that is not even something you can do on zdnet because you it's not a level playing field.
I might say that the biggest problem with Vista was the lack of 3rd party drivers and it was stable for most users.
It supports 99.9% of all XP sp2 code and beyond, sometthing that the ABM camp never spoke of and neither did any blogger here. Compatibility mode. Yes, when Apple jumped to x86 to play catchup from their deadend platform, their ability to run old code (which they phased out) was categorized in the brilliant column here on zdnet, which Vista's compatibility mode features were left out, nothing was ever said about it. There was a perception painted here and elsehwere that Vista could not load and run XP drivers, at least that is perception I got from the many "let's bash Vista" blogs.
Even bloggers as yourself that are normally objective and somewhat vendor neutral were repeating the ABM communities tag lines, many of which were patently false and most of which were half truths.
zdnet has dedicated ABM bloggers and now you have SJVN...WOW!!! I thought you were only a step or two behind slashdot before! But there are no ABG or ABA or ABL bloggers here. Not a one. Some might lump Ed Bott in that category but he is the only blogger, IMHO, that puts a ton of research and data to support his blogs into most of them. They are no just fluff that is designed to Villify a certain vendor.
Bottom line is you can't compare your campaign against Vista and this. That was relentless and stole the headlines every day, not matter how trivial. This will not receive an all out assault like Vista, even though your logic about MS being more deserving, IMHO, fails, and it should. But zdnet must pander to it's majority.
@jperlow Glad to hear you admit you were making up stuff to help your friend Steve.
@Droid101
Why would anyone want to use Android, when you can get the original and be cool.. APPLE!
@Hasam1991
look where that got them. sad
@Hasam1991
I don't like having to plug my Tablet into a computer to sync... Android does it wirelessly.
@Hasam1991 Yes, we have always been at war with Eastasia and Choco rations are going up.
crApple's not cool, but snobby
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@Hasam1991 You're an idiiot. You're a Windows user who has upgraded & bought an Apple thinking it makes you look clever but your technical capability is minimal at best...
@Hasam1991 @Hasam1991 You're an idiiot. You're a Windows user who has upgraded & bought an Apple thinking it makes you look clever but your technical capability is minimal at best...
@Hasam1991 The Empire use Apple - the rebels use Android.
@Hasam1991
If iOS was better than Android, I'd use it...bit it's not. The "original" is not always better. Android came later to the game, but they have improved on Apple's ideas and taken things to the next level, offered more features and a better OS. This happened to Apple in the PC market as well. They launched, then others copied and improved, and then blew them away. Apple has a knack for coming up with great ideas, but they never seem to be able to keep up once others join the game and in the end they are always the small fish in a big pond.

Why is it that you people (ZDNet folks) talk about Android's issues in comparison to iOS, and imply iOS is a perfect, pristine OS on perfect, pristine devices??

iOS and iOS devices have more severe issues than Android, such as lack of Flash (huge deal), no real multi-tasking, can't remove the damn battery in an iPhone or iPad, no memory card slot, being chained to iTunes, only able to use it on one computer, antenna gate, etc, etc, etc. Android's issues are minor compared to that iOS's train wreck of issues.

How many Android phones do you see with "band aids" over troubled antenna spots? Now how many iPhones do you see with "band aids" or "bumpers" to cover troubled antenna spots? Yup...I rest my case.

I use Android because Android just flat out does more things than iOS, that's a fact. It's just a better overall OS. I want as many features as possible, not a locked down and limited OS like iOS is. I have no issues with Android's functionality or performance. It really has really been a great OS, and I've used it since the first G1 all the way up to my D2.

You fanboys need to get your heads out of Steve Jobs' butt and realize what's going on.
@Xander_Crews You end your post with "You fanboys need to get your heads out of Steve Jobs' butt and realize what's going on.' yet you are no better. You are nothing more than a fandroid, different side of the same coin. To be so rabidly one sided then to attack others for being the same way with a different device only shows how delusional you are. Every device or OS has it's pros and cons, one size does not fit all. Just because you have the ability to type out the official Apple haters talking points list doesn't mean they have any validity to anybody but yourself. Sure, some if not all of those talking point might be an issue to you but based on sales of iOS devices they are not an issue for 10s of millions of people. I say they might be an issue for you because who knows if you really care about those items or just have to spew them out because you don't know any better. I have talked with more than a few people over the past couple of years that spewed the same crap then through conversation found they never swapped the battery on there device or used the SD card or like a recent conversation about the lack of flash and the hater never needed on his Android device but hated Apple for not allowing it. Point is that most spew that crap because it makes them feel better, not because it really matters to them let alone the vast majority of average consumers. You like Android and it works for you. I am happy for you and would not bash you for making that choice. Of course I am a mature educated person that doesn't have to belittle others to make myself feel better. You Fanboys and Fandroids should try growing up sometime, there is a lot more to like that small minded attitudes.
@Hasam1991

While I don't hate Apple outright, I bought an Epic 4G for myself and I am very satisifed and yes I have played with iPhones before and don't like Steve Jobs walled garden approach.
@Droid101
I think he is trying to say that Honeycomb should be more controled then it is now so that People get that uniform experience between Tablets..... What I don't Understand is why the heck would I want my Tablet to be the same as my phone? The tablet should be more productive and laid out not like windows and not like my phone but more like well Honeycomb is. IOS makes since on a 3.5 inch screen when you don't have the real-estate to do much more then Icons but give me the real-estate of a 10 inch screen and I just sit and wonder "Why the heck am I looking at all theses apps icons?" with Honeycomb I don't feel like that I feel it is well laid out and natural to navigate. Yes a monkey can play games on a Ipad but I am no monkey I have the ability to use something made like honeycomb.. I understand Honeycomb needs work but no more then any new operating system.... The bottom line is I wont choices when it comes to my computers Android gives me that freedom to not have my choices made form me.
@nickitnite An excellent description of both Apple and Droid users "Yes a monkey can play games on a Ipad but I am no monkey" If you want to be productive I'd move away from both platforms.
@nickitnite
I definitely agree.... The only reason I am even thinking about getting a Tablet (and have researched it so much)is because I'm military I am constantly getting underway so I want something that can give me a good battery life for movies and is easy to take with me around town so I can use it at WiFi spots and talk to home. As for now I have a netbook running Linux for this but I've been looking for something lighter and still useful I really don't see the Ipad as useful and the $$$ seems a little much. Android 3.0 gives me a little more but still seems a little restrictive.... We'll see still not impressed with the Tablets yet
@nickitnite

This is a reply to your post below. You should look into a lightweight tablet pc with capacitive touch support running Ubuntu Netbook. Last I heard Ubuntu was going to if not already supporting multi-touch, and a tablet-pc gives you the ability to install any OS you want on it. The only issue might be the battery live but I can't know for sure, the only tablet PC I have was a powerhouse at the time, very hot, and very quick to drain the battery life.
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@blueskip
Receipts are posted. Now issue a public apology or stay out of the forums if you're not able to discuss intelligently.
Why do I finally own an iPad?
Cause I gave Android several chances to prove itself on a tablet. I'm not saying it's a bad OS... I love my Droid phone. But as far as working smoothly and not including tons of bloatware, it has had over a year to show it's strength on a tablet device and it still can't.
@camcost@... You're lying. Show the receipts fanboy.
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@camcost@... Windows user who uses Apple now because he thinks it makes him appear cool. That makes him a wanker...
@alfielee@... Really, the very old and very lame "cool" talking point? That's the best that you have? I think you made yourself look like more of a wanker than he did.
@Droid101 Exactly. So fulla crapola. Just another jeolous fanboy.
Honeycomb is great, this author is just *another* mindless apple zombie who needs brains, brains... because he is obviously too stupid to use an Android.
@gtatransam@... I haven't used Honeycomb yet so won't make any claims about it but do blogs like this really cut you fandroids to the bone? I mean anytime somebody says something negative about anything Android the personal attacks come. Come on people, it's time to grow up. We don't all have the same views on everything. Doesn't make either one right or wrong.
I think the Hardware Abstraction problem is not just an Android problem. It's a Linux problem. To install a driver for Linux, you need to recompile it with the driver. To compile it.. well, it's not an average joe job. To make it worst, every time another linux version came, you need to recompile it again to install the driver. It's a huge maintainance problem. Fix that, and the world is a much better place to live.
@asdacap
Or just go with the ipad!
@Hasam1991

Dude, do you work for Apple?
@Hasam1991

Apple can certainly afford to pay for better shills than you, I hope.

You are not convincing anyone be repeating the bleat, "just go with Apple".
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"To install a driver, you have to compile it"
Michael Alan Goff 28th Apr 2011
Oh really?
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RE: Dear Google: Here's your roadmap out of Android Honeycomb hell
Return_of_the_jedi Updated - 28th Apr 2011
@goff256

Maybe all the droid are selling because the sales person didn't mention the fact that you have to recompile the apps in the market place?

PS. I think he is stating the work that's cut out for the WP7 devs.
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Heh
Michael Alan Goff 28th Apr 2011
I wish LD would just get new material.
@goff256
"I wish LD would just get new material." - Apparently he got a new name: asdacap. But yeah, I was thinking the same thing while I read that blathering BS.
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@Return_of_the_jedi While he may be completely wrong he is talking about Linux and you bring up apps in the market place? Did you read the post you are commenting on?
@asdacap No you don't, the kernel has been modular for years and many companies have binaries for their drivers.
@asdacap

Yawn, is that you Loverock wearing new underpants.
@asdacap

Dude when was the last time you used linux? Every use a Mac and get that "it just works" feeling? well Since Ubuntu 9 (at least) That's how a good Linux distro has been. I don't have to worry about my hardware not working on most Linux distro's, it just does. I have no problem with software/driver updates, and web apps work fine. This includes Flash, Java, and Silverlight.

I will say one thing though: it would be really sweet if a system was made that allows the filing system to be abstracted from the OS; make it standard for any OS so that the Os became interchangable and you never had to wipe all of your programs and files out. I'm not saying make every OS play every Binary, just make the filing system the same so that multiple OS's could access the same data without hastle; this includes profile data on different distros of the same software (i.e. firefox), or data that is used by different software on different machines (like your photo and music libraries).
@asdacap

1991 called, they want their technology back. Look up DKMS on the Google. I think they have broadband now too, so you won't even need a 300 baud modem to do that.
@asdacap

Why can't you install it with modprobe?
@asdacap You cannot seriously be this clueless. You're comparing Windows 95 versions of Linux to what's being produced today. Linux hasn't performed this poorly in so long I can't even remember that far back.
@asdacap
It was fixed like 8 years ago. Where have you been?
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Return_of_the_jedi Updated - 28th Apr 2011
... is fine. But to read your post, you tend to be very long winded (most of the times).

Hint: Start with the conclusion and work backwards.
@Return_of_the_jedi If you want short form, don't read this column. We have other writers on this site, and I don't get paid by the word. You want deep analysis you come here. If you've got ADD, find another columnist.
@jperlow

No, but you do get paid by the number of posts which to a cynic might suggest that there's gold in controversy.

I have no problems with long posts, but I would prefer a little more data and less perjorative language such as "abortion". Yes I'm prepared to believe Android sucks, but it would be nice to know why. Your favoured tablet use of apps may not be typical, so the infuriating problems you uncovered may not be afflicting the majority of users nor may they be apparent on other OEM hardware.

So more detail and less demagoguery would be appreciated.
@tonymcs@...

I'm just curious, did u read his article? because he explains the flaws very well. And, IMO, the reason I like ZDNet articles is because the journalists don't hide the obvious subjective thought that is going to occur anyway, they let it all hang out so you know exactly where they're coming from. I second jperlow's statement, if you don't want to read, as your words put it a "long winded" post, don't and go somewhere else.
I think the representation of this article is actually superb one. This is my first visit to your site. Thanks a lot and keep sharing the information. Keep updating the information for all of us. Thanks ZDNet Government was launched as the brand's first industry vertical, with a mission to cater to IT professionals in the public secto I agree with your post. However, do you have any sources I can cite for my paper wheel car com bury

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