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Did the DVR and HD impact NBCOlympics.com traffic numbers?

By | August 12, 2008, 8:20am PDT

Summary: My ZDNet colleagues Tom Steinert-Threlkeld and  Ryan Stewart ran the raw numbers on Olympics online viewership. While the amount of traffic on the videos over the weekend was impressive –  3.42 million video streams with 66.7 million page views and an average visit of 15 minutes on August 10th alone, the fact of the matter [...]

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My ZDNet colleagues Tom Steinert-Threlkeld and  Ryan Stewart ran the raw numbers on Olympics online viewership. While the amount of traffic on the videos over the weekend was impressive –  3.42 million video streams with 66.7 million page views and an average visit of 15 minutes on August 10th alone, the fact of the matter remains that when comparing it to the highest volume video streaming web site in the world, YouTube, it only represents a small fraction of that site’s daily volume, approximately 2 percent.

Click on the “Read the rest of this entry” link below for more.

Why such comparatively low numbers? Doesn’t everyone love sports and the Olympics?

Sure they do. But I think there are some mitigating factors as to why we are seeing less online viewership.

First, I expect that live television viewership to be equally affected because most of the Olympic events are occurring when most of us adults in the United States are sleeping. I say most adults, because I’m not counting the Red Bull-powered college kids and people who live on Vampire Time, like some of my out-of-work friends. So people aren’t awake to watch most of it.

Second is the advent and wide proliferation of DVR technology. Many of us have cable or satellite, and some are lucky enough to have FiOS or similar fiber service. Many of us have DVRs like Tivos, or the DirecTV HR series or the DishDVR combined with these services, integrated DVR cable set-tops or are DVRing using over-the-air antennae,  so we time shift our viewing. We’re not watching the events until the following morning during breakfast or until we get back from work the next day.

Third is the proliferation of High Definition television. While I wouldn’t consider HD penetration to be at majority levels yet, enough households do have them, particularly in combination with DVR technology, that a online-based experience is just not going to match the visual beauty and awe of watching it on a super crisp, super detailed and bright HD screen. While the Silverlight content is indeed excellent, and it has the ability to show coverage of stuff that isn’t shown on TV, as well as quick access to the important medal-winning events, it doesnt compare to watching it on a 32 inch or greater HDTV set.

Fourth is quite simple — during work hours, sucking down streaming video is a big demand on corporate bandwidth, and companies are likely to blacklist the site for fears of decreased productivity. And frankly, nobody wants to get caught watching Phelps do the Aquaman thing when they are supposed to be crunching an Excel spreadsheet or creating their TPS reports.

Are you watching the Olympics on the web, watching live events, or are you a time shifter? And has Hi-Def changed altered your viewing preferences? Talk Back and let me know.

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Flash can do this also via FLVSeek
jperlow 16th Aug 2008
But this has to be supported by the caching provider. In this case, its supported by Limelight Networks, who is doing the caching for the olympics. They support FLVSeek for their other customers not using Silverlight or Windows Media.
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Always proofread your article...
bricar2 12th Aug 2008
...before submitting. happy

"While I wouldn?t consider HD penetration to be at majority levels yet, enough households have do them..."
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Why bother to watch when you already know who's won?
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Sure, thats some of it.
jperlow 12th Aug 2008
But that's like saying you don't want to go see a movie because someone told you how it ends.

Access to websites and newspapers that tell you the medal count for the day's events is convenient, but many people watch to watch. I mean just saying that Phelps won a medal is one thing, but actually watching that race when he came in from behind? Come on.
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Sixth Sense and The Usual Suspects.
Letophoro 12th Aug 2008
"But that's like saying you don't want to go see a movie because someone told you how it ends."

Sure, you could have gone to watch The Sixth Sense or The Usual Suspects after someone told you the ending. Either was still a decent movie, but you would miss out on the exciting surprise ending that made the whole movie great.

Phelps is more the exception than the rule with the Olympics. The come from behind win to set a new world record was pretty impressive. But that's something exciting.

How about watching synchronized men's diving or 45 kg female weightlifting? You already know the US didn't medal, so why bother?

Even if something was interesting, I'd rather TiVo the whole thing and skip to the three or four minutes that I might care about on any given day. Most of the time I'd rather watch a MASH rerun than NBC's rehashing of what I already know.
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Not me
voska1 12th Aug 2008
Personally I don't find it worth my time when it's sports. A movie or book at something to entertain me from beginning to end. Sports pretty doesn't do that for me. There is something about the competition that is lost once you know who won. So unless you a big time fan of the sport in particular it's pretty much boring to watch if you know who won. For summer sports I'm pretty much not interested in most of it but curious to see who's won gold, silver and bronze.
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And another thing....
Hallowed are the Ori 13th Aug 2008
YouTube can be streamed by anyone, anywhere on the planet... well, except for the Chinese in China.

The NBC streams, on the other hand, are supposedly only available to IP addresses residing withing the USA.

Seems like that would kill a lot of potential traffic as well.
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Not a big deal...
Wolfie2K3 13th Aug 2008
The NBC streams, on the other hand, are supposedly only available to IP addresses residing withing the USA.

Seems like that would kill a lot of potential traffic as well.


Other countries have their own version - The BBC, for instance, has their own streaming deal going. Of course, the Beeb's streams are only available if your IP is from the UK.
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The biggest factor is
LBiege Updated - 12th Aug 2008
... imo that NBC keeps the coverage of the most popular sports on TV instead of LIVE online. You can for example watch weight lifting all you want online, but that doesn't attract a whole bunch of viewers. It's the coverage on basketball, Phelps, track & field and so on generating the ratings.
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Beating a dead horse..
Been_Done_Before 12th Aug 2008
I watched last night via my tv/dvr. I watched part live and part dvr. Btw they stuff a commercial in whereever they can stick it and my dvrs fast forward button is starting to break.
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Why?
Qbt 12th Aug 2008
Why do you people keep comparing the online Olympic numbers with that of YouTube, but then somehow forget that YouTube is worldwide while the online Olympics are constrained to the US only? Do you realize that there are people outside the US? With computers no less?

That might be a big reason for why the Olympic numbers are so much lower.
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Well said...
safesax2002 12th Aug 2008
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Or, the Olympics are just too boring
No_Ax_to_Grind 12th Aug 2008
No, I am not talking about the actual events, its the "color commentary" that puts me to sleep. I don't care if Phellps has a GF backhome, I don't care if the 16 year old Shawn is diung ok in school back in Iowa, on and on.
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I'm with ya
colinnwn 13th Aug 2008
I liked watching some Olympic events until about 1992 back when the media coverage was quaint and focused on the sport, and it was a treat to see every 4 years. Now with the tarted up, melodramatic media coverage, and an Olympic event every 2 years, it is a snore fest.
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And don't forget....
Hallowed are the Ori Updated - 13th Aug 2008
The announcers who seem to think that they won't get paid if they stop talking for a few seconds. (And that's one nice thing about the live online streams: no loudmouthed announcers)

See if you can find a clip online of the 2002 Winter Games in SLC where they silently marched into the stadium with the US flag that had been at the WTC site.

It was a moment to remember... unfortunately, what I remember was that Katie Couric and Bob Costas wouldn't shut their damned mouths for 5 seconds.

And while I didn't care enough and/or pay enough attention to remember who was doing the announcing, they did the same thing at the opening ceremonies in China.

You just want to scream at the damn TV "JUST SHUT THE F**K UP AND LET IT SPEAK FOR ITSELF!!!!"
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I want to be the 'Rollie Cam'!
dascha1 12th Aug 2008
I just don't see why NASCAR and Iroman(r) are STILL the only
leaders in the fusion. I mean, come on, all the bragging
about HD and how we can get-it anywhere. We know that's
been possible for decades. So why can't I switch
angles/athletes-on-demand and get the whole picture of an
event? And it shouldn't matter if live or DVR'd. It would be a
boon to monitor the heart rates and the nutrients that go
into the athlete in realtime as well (i.e. triathlon, marathon,
etc). That's reality for us.
... is that I would have to download and install Silverlight.
Thanks, but no thanks!
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Thats why I'm not...
Stuka 12th Aug 2008
I don't care to install Silverlight. So I am fine not watching them. And surprisingly, many friends that I have asked have said the same thing. They don't feel like installing software just to watch the olympics online.
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Your choice
Qbt 12th Aug 2008
If you don't want to spend the 8 seconds downloading and installing the software, yet want to spend the 3 minutes online complaining about how you "just don't feel like it", then that is your choice.

Except it makes no logical sense. Unless of course you are an ABMer and your choice is to rather lose out on life's interesting moments because of your little anti-MS jihad.

You make your own choices - just don't complain to us about your bad choices.
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I wouldn't download it either
voska1 12th Aug 2008
I wouldn't do it just because it's installing something I'd use for few minutes during the whole games. Not worth it to add junk to my PC. Nothing against Microsoft here, I'm sure it works slick but I just don't want it lingering around after the games. So no problem, I just set the PVR and watch when I want. Much easier in my opinion and they still let you do it amazingly. I usually get the stupid record blocking signal.
the thing is it's not just downloading it to watch one thing. i'm seeing more and more sites using silver light instead of flash. so it will not be long before we will have to have both flash and silver light to watch media on the web. depending on the site you visit.
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No more plugins
mystic100 13th Aug 2008
Ever since plugins have become attack vectors in browsers, I am trying to cut out some. I have already canned Quicktime & Real Player so I am not about to add another one, Silverlight.
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silverlight is awesome
wolvie3421 13th Aug 2008
silverlight is pretty awesome, you should try it out happy

the coolest thing for me so far is the ability to start the stream from any point in time without pre-loading like you'd have to in flash. so if you wanted to watch the last 5 mins of a 2 hour basketball game, all you have to do is start up the stream and click towards the end of the slider and presto! instant playback and no preloading requirements.
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Flash can do this also via FLVSeek
jperlow 16th Aug 2008
But this has to be supported by the caching provider. In this case, its supported by Limelight Networks, who is doing the caching for the olympics. They support FLVSeek for their other customers not using Silverlight or Windows Media.
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Don't need Silverlight
CyberMe 13th Aug 2008
The non-Sliverlight viewer works fine. I have tried both and the only difference I could see is that Silverlight has more interactive features (if you like that sort of thing).
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Eye of the beholder
ThePrairiePrankster 12th Aug 2008
Viewing video online, for me, is not the most satisfying experience for more than 5 or 10 minutes of time in one sitting. Sure, I watch vids from YouTube once in awhile but I watch one for 5 minutes and then I go do something else. I don't sit in front of my very nice 22" screen and watch anything on my PC for very long. Nothing to do with the Olympics.

And I don't watch the taped delay Olympics on my HD TV with the fake singers and fake fireworks that promote the Peoples Republic propaganda offensive. The Olympics has degenerated into an advertising event that happens to have some sports programming. Most of the events are not very interesting. I respect the athletes and their accomplishments but watching synchronized swimming or gymnastic events has zero appeal to me. The human interest stories are little more than soap operas -- it all bores me. That's why I don't bother to watch much of the Olympic folderol, I'd rather watch a live baseball or football game.

None of this has anything to do with Silverlight.
Love it. Makes the Olympics bearable.
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Sport is so tainted
A.Sinic 13th Aug 2008
I think that a lot of people who used to watch Olympic sports have become very skeptical of the acheivements claimed. There have been just too many drug scandals at the top levels, and it rather strains our credibility to think that "records" can continue to keep rising just through hard work and better training regimes. Are we that better at selecting athletes? Are we breeding superior humans? Are we really giving them better training? If not, how can records continue to be broken without artificial aids? This doesn't necessarily mean drugs. New Scientist has reports of nutritional tricks also being used.

I'm sure there are many dedicated and honest athletes out there. But a lot of sport is badly tainted these days.
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innocent until proven guilty
wolvie3421 13th Aug 2008
just like the average height is increasing and technological advancements are made everyday, atheleticism also evolves.
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What about Media Center?
CyberMe 13th Aug 2008
I have a Vista Media Center and am watching a lot the Olympic coverage in HD on the big screen (live, "delayed" for commercial skip, and recorded).

I am also watching some of the Olympic coverage from NBCOlympics.com, which has good coverage. Problem is, who wants to spend hours watching the Olympics sitting at their computer monitor? I would rather get all that NBCOlympics.com coverage from my couch and Media Center.

Why isn't there a Media Center plug-in for NBCOlympics.com?

There is a TVTonic Media Center plug-in, but that is horrible (really unusable) compared to what is available at NBCOlympics.com.
And some of us don't bother at all. Some of us don't even own HD TVs at all (what a waste of time and money)! This type of technology is the new "opiate of the masses".
Guess what? Some of us don't even own HD TVs at all, as they are a waste of money, resources and time better spent in other ways (and no, NOT playing video games). This technology (and technology of this type) is the new "opiate of the masses".
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I don't have a satellite dish and I don't subscribe to anything other than basic cable. (Can't justify the expense, considering how much it costs and how little I'd watch. Here in fly-over country we just don't have the competitive offerings most of you other readers seem to have.)

For me, online is the only way I can watch Olympic (team) handball, as NBC Universal isn't showing it at all on NBC.

I thought it was pretty cool to go online a couple nights ago and watch Olympic handball live for the first time since I saw it in person in Atlanta.

Just wish more people would catch on to how exciting and fun this sport is to watch...
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The Olympics are increasingly irrelevant. What is their purpose. Think about it. That is what would make you want to watch it.

China can choose athletes from 1.3 billion people!
The US has 300 million people
Jamaica has only 2 million.

Of course the largest countries will get the most medals, actually shutting out the smaller countries.

The opening ceremonies were a bust for me. NBC put commercials on top of the ceremonies, where large and frequent parts were merely were lost. They could have delayed the transmission and merely inserted commercials, but they didn't. NBC merely chopped up the content throwing good parts away. Whenever they wanted to, they just left the Olympics for commercials, and whey they cut back to the ceremonies you could not figure what had happened. Would you watch a football game when they cut away from plays and scoring so instead you watched random commercials? Of course not.

People are changing what country they belong to for money and other incentives. One Olympic they are an American, the next a Chinese! It like ball players hopping from team to team. Is your home team remotely related to your city any more? No.

Are they amateurs or professionals. The rules change.

Big science with big budgets help create the best equipment, clothing, etc. so if you have the money and computer engineers you get an advantage designing your equipment that smaller countries do not have. This is becoming a contest of big bucks, not athletes.

Drugs make monsters. Who wants to watch freaks? We go to movies to see people we can identify with.

So tell me again why we would want to watch Olympics?
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being proud of others' hard work
wolvie3421 Updated - 13th Aug 2008
I personally watch the Olympics to honor and appreciate extremely gifted athletes compete at the world's biggest competition. I believe that is the purpose of the Olympics.

It's true that larger countries will win more medals, but don't you love to see smaller countries win medals too? Especially for first timers like that dude that won India's first gold medal. And all the record breaking from the swimmning events?

For many the Olympics is the epitome and plateau of their hard work. In extremely competitive countries with many gifted athletes, I do not blame some for representing other countries just to be able to compete in the Olympics.

If I had the opportunity to compete in the Olympics, I wouldn't care what country I represent as long as I could compete. I think only an athlete could understand.
It's ALWAYS been a sales thing. Even when it was supposed to be all amateur. It's ALWAYS been a way for one country to say "My country's better than yours... Neener neener!!" - and that goes ALL the way back to ancient Greece and the FIRST Olympics. The Olympics have always been war with little (if any) bloodshed.

As far as countries picking athletes... It's not quite as simple as you make it. The Chinese indeed have 1.6 billion people - but in all reality, how many of them can actually produce results? It's not like a 65 year old grandfather would be a likely candidate for say, gymnastics? Someone that age would NOT be flexible enough nor able to do the strength moves required.

Of course, if you bothered watching any of the Olympics, you'd kinda have figured that part out. In fact, gymnasts - men and women are generally picked when they're a few years old and are groomed for the next decade or so until they're needed.

Oddly enough... The whole argument about smaller countries not having the same chances as the US is somewhat moot. MANY of the athletes playing in the Olympics train here in the US. That would almost imply they've got access to the same level of technology as the US athletes do. Especially if they go to the same colleges and universities as the US team.

MOST of the commercial breaks I've seen in games have taken place during lulls in the action. Time outs, half time, quarter time, etc... And even still, most of the advertising if of a higher caliber - like you'd see during the Superbowl - only this lasts a couple of weeks.

As far as professional vs amateur goes... The Olympics have long since lost that distinction. Of course, back in the day, the Soviet Union and other countries paid their athletes to train and be athletes. They may have disguised them as being in the "army" or some such rot, but in essence, they WERE being paid to train and bring home the gold.

The simple truth is, training takes lots of time and consumes lots of money. Does it really matter WHO pays for it? Expecting a guy to hold down a job 8 hours a day, do 12 hours of training AND getting 8 hours of sleep is a bit unreasonable given there's only 24 hours in a day.

The bottom line - these athletes work hard training for these games. For their countries. For the glory. Not all of them dope up. If that were the case, the games would have been shut down. With the extensive drug and dope testing they're doing these days - as well as gender bender tests - it's VERY difficult to pull a fast one these days. It's not impossible, just not probable. So where's the freak show?

The bottom line of your post - you sound like a typical ABM'er doing a typical anti-Microsoft rant. Pure FUD.
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the screen is too small
hansonjb 13th Aug 2008
i went and bought a 24 inch screen in part for this and bingo--the screen showing the olympics is limited to a small part of the screen.

who wants that? fill up my screen. when it doesn't, give me my tv.
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Some of us are boycotting it due to the Red Chinese
government rights violations, and the US tech firms'
involvement in same.

I don't want M$, Google, Cisco et al. to see a dime of
additional revenue until they've repented and paid some
restitution
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For the sheer excitement of watching world records collapse.
As compared to youtube that can be accessed by anyone. NBColympics can only be accessed by those in the US. There are more people outside the US. You get what you designed it for. So why wonder.

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