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Jason Perlow and Scott Raymond

The Internet and piracy are here to stay

By | January 25, 2012, 12:18pm PST

Summary: Will killing media piracy destroy the Internet? Is it even possible to stop piracy?

The recent brouhaha over SOPA AND PIPA, the shutdown of MegaUpload and arrest of its owners, and the resulting attacks against the parties involved have generated much debate of the future of the Internet and the viability of piracy.

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Fellow ZDNet columnist Stephen Chapman posits that if the current trend in cracking down on online piracy continues, then the Internet itself will case to exist in its current form; that in order to remain free, piracy must exist.

As we’ve seen, however, something as draconian as SOPA and PIPA proved to be will generate a large enough outcry that even the lobbyist-bribed politicians were unable to ignore. Especially not with election season around the corner.

I do not agree with Stephen’s assertion. Software and media piracy have existed for decades–even centuries. That’s why there are copyright laws. And books, movies, music, TV shows, and software were pirated and distributed before the advent of Internet for the masses.

The only thing that crackdowns on piracy do is force the pirates to find other avenues for their activities. As Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols and Charlie Osborne pointed out, even if you shut down all file sharing services, there are still options. Bittorrent and Usenet are viable options, and have been for some time.

The problem with piracy is twofold. For one, the media companies make ridiculous amounts of money at the expense of the artists. Many of them never see a piece of the billions that the MPAA and the RIAA and the companies they represent rake in every year.

Also, instead of embracing the Internet as another medium for distribution and revenue, they instead jack up prices even more for something that costs them even less to distribute. And the artists usually see none of that revenue, either.

Instead of utilizing Internet distribution as a viable business model, they fight tooth and nail against it. And yet somehow Apple and Amazon have proven that it does work, in spite of all of the obstacles put in their way.

The media companies are locked in hidebound mentality that is incapable of coming to grips with the fact that if they punish their customers instead of accommodating them, they simply drive them to piracy instead of generating more revenue.

Of course, there will always be people that will never spend money on anything, and demand everything for free. They are actually the minority. Unfortunately, the companies that back–and help write–bad legislation like SOPA and PIPA see everyone as a criminal, and treat them as such.

Pushing for draconian legislation and punishing your customers is the wrong message to be sending if you want people to back you. Don’t punish the customers. Work with them. Because this will not kill the Internet, and will result in even more lost sales. People that didn’t pirate media before would do it in retaliation for being treated like a criminal.

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Scott Raymond has been a technologist and system administrator for over 25 years.

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Scott Raymond

I am the IT Manager for a high end audio and network systems integrator in northern Califronia. My wife works at Adobe Systems, Inc. Whenever I write an article that might involve Adobe or its products, I add a disclaimer at the top of the article to make sure she is not involved in any way. We have a small bit of stock with AT&T and no other major investments that would cause conflict.

Biography

Scott Raymond

Scott Raymond has been a technologist and system administrator for over 25 years. Starting as a hobbyist in his teens, Scott quickly learned that he could translate his passion and knowledge into a full-time career. He currently works as the IT Manager for a high end audio and network systems integrator in northern California. He has written technology articles for various publications in the past and began contributing to ZDnet as a guest blogger on Jason Perlow's Tech Broiler. Scott and Jason met in New York in the 1990s where they co-managed the New York City Palm Pilot Users' Group.

In his spare time, Scott is a trained chef and avid bicycling enthusiast, as well as a voracious reader of historical, science and horror fiction. He is a huge fan of pop culture, with a wide range of interest in TV shows, movies and games.

Talkback Most Recent of 34 Talkback(s)

  • The MAFIAA needs a smack-down to get them to wake up
    There needs to be a major legal setback for the copyright monopolists. If you look at what happened after the US Supreme Court gave the MPAA a lesson in "Sony Corp. of America v. Universal City Studios, Inc., 464 U.S. 417 (1984)" you can see a huge rush by the media giants to fill the wants and needs of the consumer.

    As soon as there is some significant legal defeat of the push for eternal copyright monopoly the floodgates will again open and we will see the media companies start to embrace the internet instead of trying to kill it.
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    sismoc
    25th Jan
  • RE: The Internet and piracy are here to stay
    @sismoc If only the average consumer could buy politicians like the MAFIAA can.
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    luckyducky7@...
    26th Jan
  • RE: The Internet and piracy are here to stay
    @sismoc

    1. SOPA and its ilk are poorly written (welfare for lawyers) and should be shelved
    2. Theft anywhere is illegal including the internet (piracy is theft)
    3. Businesses (corporate or otherwise) do cater to their customers or risk failure
    4. Property rights are second to individual rights but individual rights do not seem to include the right to steal another's property
    5. Don't like the price or costs...don't buy it (not a good reason to steal it)
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    J Hartsock
    26th Jan
  • There is a difference between copyright and property
    @J Hartsock The media industry likes to promote the meme of "intellectual property" as if it was the same sort of property as a motorbike. It isn't. Copyright is a contract between society and (in theory) artists to allow artists to reap reasonable rewards from their creations, and in turn enrich society. The "copyright revenue guarantee contract" between society and artists has changed many times over the last 100 years, every time when society has determined that the gains by encouraging new technologies and forms of art are more important than the entrenched business models of the previous generation of media moguls. For a readable and interesting background on the history and realities of intellectual "property" read Free Culture, by Lawrence Lessig (free download available). It will open your eyes to the marketing of the phrase "intellectual property"- after all, compared to a campaign against "piracy" (those stinking bloodthirsty amoral fiends!) there are not many people who would be as supportive for an MPAA campaign "support our right to increasing profits, no change to our business models, and ultimate control over over all forms of distribution".
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    Indulis
    26th Jan
  • Re; Theft anywhere is illegal including the internet (piracy is theft)
    @J Hartsock
    No.
    That is not true.
    The definition of theft is to remove something from its rightful owner.
    Copying does not remove the original from existence.
    Besides; copyright is a privilege and not a property !
    Privileges can be taken away by the ones who granted them in the first place and that would be perfectly legal.
    These privileges has become perverse compared to the original.
    It was 14 years from publication and it was designed originally to protect artists /authors from unscrupulous publishers and not against the public , who through governments granted the privileges.
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    hkommedal
    29th Jan
  • RE: The Internet and piracy are here to stay
    Here's a bizarre speech from today at Davos by a disgruntled media mogul. He was slamming the conference and Silicon Valley, the Bilderbergers - it was all over the map - but entertaining.

    http://mankabros.com/blogs/chairman/2012/01/25/davos-world-economic-forum-2012-khan-manka-jr-keynote-address/
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    JillKennedy
    25th Jan
  • Riveting speech. No mincing of words. What more can one ask?
    I've said it before and I'll say it again, the man is a visionary like few others.

    Khan Manka, Jr. - Davos World Economic Forum, Switzerland, Jan 25, 2012
    Keynote Address highlights to the Davos banking fraternity [for those too lazy to avail themselves to the entire speech]

    - Thanks so much. Please, thanks, I only have a few minutes. Please, I want to get out of Switzerland more than Roman Polanski -- believe me...

    - Can I just say to Motion Picture Academy -- go f-ck yourselves. How about a little of that, huh? No nominations? Maybe next year you should watch the movies you nominate.

    - As many of you know, I spoke to the creepy Bilderberg Conference last summer. I won't go into details -- but it was the worst 24 hours of my life. I mean, the hooded waiters were one thing -- but the Lionel Richie concert -- that was just too much!

    - Do you really think you can do anything to help anybody in the world? You freaks are delusional.

    - In Hollywood, we are facing the battle of our lives. This is a battle for our very existence. As many of you know, entrepreneurs from Silicon Valley are a bunch of conceited pricks who think they can do whatever they want.

    - It's called human decency, assh0les. You could care less about anything because you think you run the world.

    - I am done with Switzerland. Victor (Pinchuk), I'm de-icing the plane -- whenever you're ready I am out of here.


    The man never fails to deliver. Say no more.
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    klumper
    25th Jan
  • RE: The Internet and piracy are here to stay
    @klumper: I read the "blog" and investigated the "swiss guard types took the hoodie wearing guy away" and it's all... "content". Not factual. The man is so out of touch with reality it's amazing he can walk and chew gum at the same time.
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    RyuDarragh
    26th Jan
  • You work for Manko
    @JillKennedy
    I am not impressed with the Keynote (rant) or the Manka Bros. portfolio. Not at all helping MPAA cause, it's actually hurting it. Come on hoody goons escorted out by the Swiss Guard? That's epic fiction.
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    dcmorrow
    26th Jan
  • RE: The Internet and piracy are here to stay
    Just like drugs? Sorry.. doesn't justify it.
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    dsmithdrk
    25th Jan
  • Is there a legal way to stop piracy without resorting to Draconian measures
    Apple first attempted to combat piracy (of musical digital media) with the iTunes business model. Charge a nominal fee for a song. De-emphasize the album model (a collection of songs) and emphasize the "single song" download model.

    As Scott pointed out, piracy is a direct response to exorbitant purchase costs for a particular product. Lower the costs involved .. lower the piracy. In actuality, that might be the only effective tool civilizations can use to combat the "Megauploads" of the world.
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    kenosha77a
    25th Jan
  • RE: The Internet and piracy are here to stay
    "Pushing for draconian legislation and punishing your customers is the wrong message to be sending if you want people to back you. Don???t punish the customers. Work with them. Because this will not kill the Internet, and will result in even more lost sales. People that didn???t pirate media before would do it in retaliation for being treated like a criminal."

    Agreed 100%.
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    lehnerus2000
    25th Jan
  • RE: Pushing for draconian legislation and punishing your customers...
    @lehnerus2000

    I must ask, "How do you expect a group of entrenched ID10Ts to display any leadership here"?

    It is my not so humble opinion that there is more intelligence in the daily excremental output of a large zoo; than exists in the heads of these ID10Ts.
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    fatman65536
    26th Jan
  • RE: The Internet and piracy are here to stay
    @fatman65536
    That is one possibility.

    What if the opposite is true?
    The Corporations and Government know it will fail and will use that as an excuse to introduce even more draconian legislation.
    "It's about time we put those useless peasants back in their sewers."
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    lehnerus2000
    26th Jan
  • Is there even a collective will any longer to halt piracy?
    I don't doubt the authorities can put a sizable dent in piracy by use of quasi legal constricts coupled with enough effort, but the bigger problem lies in the collateral damage that is almost certain to occur. Both by way of the new and uncharted judicial precedents they're aiming to set, and per anyone who happens to be caught in the ensuing crossfire.

    If the issue could be neatly cubbyholed and any peripheral fallout contained, it'd be one thing. But I'd bet my last nickel that will not be the case. Conventional wisdom suggests that as soon as they're given an inch, they'll expect (and demand) a mile.

    Knowing Hollywood is behind these painted pig measures hardly helps. Knowing further that the entertainment and media conglomerates make obscene amounts of jack as it is, often at the expense of others who are more deserving, further restricts tears and wisps of sympathy. [exception withstanding to Khan Manka Jr. -- alone]

    The reality is, a lot of everyday folk no longer relate to Tinsel Town, no more than they do to Wall Street, the Multinational corpse, or our Federal-gone-One-World government, all of whom are swimming in pools of loot and self privilege. What are any of them doing to resist, let alone reverse, the decline of this country? Besides stuffing their pockets, as well as foreign ones, while promising a brighter tomorrow.

    Depriving the masses of honest, gainful employment makes pirates and paupers out of common folk, and in numbers that rival the wayward and criminal elements the entertainment industry, buttressed by legions of lobbyist and legalese proxies, are claiming to target.

    And when you ask them, "How much should we give?" Ooh, they only answer "More! more! more!" -- J.C. Fogerty, Fortunate Son (Creedence)
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    klumper
    25th Jan

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