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Windows 8 Metro: Microsoft needs to let users opt-out

By | November 14, 2011, 3:11pm PST

Summary: Is the Metro UI really necessary for people using Windows 8 on the desktop? Users should have the option to turn it off by default.

With the public release of Microsoft’s Windows 8 Developer Preview, we got an early look at what Redmond has in store for the future of the ubiquitous Windows platform. For an alpha test version, it feels pretty fast, relatively stable given its early development stage, and apparently reduced complexity.

There’s just one problem for someone like me. I think the Metro UI sucks on a desktop. And if Microsoft forces it on users, people may ignore it just the way they ignored Windows Me and Vista.

I’ll admit that I’m a bit old school when it comes to a desktop operating system interface. The classic look of a task/system bar, either on top or bottom–or even on the side if that’s your preference–with the ability to have icons on the screen and a relatively standard launching menu is my idea of an interface comfort zone.

On a portable device like a smartphone or tablet, however, I prefer a more simplified interface. App icons, a notification bar, and maybe a couple of widgets like clock, weather and calendar. The Metro UI of Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 are actually well-suited to tablets and phones.

I’m not the only one here at ZDnet that thinks the Metro UI is unsuited for a non-touchscreen desktop environment. James Kendrick and Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols both feel the same way. There was even a debate on the topic here not too long ago.

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Unfortunately, Microsoft has a history of failing on portable platforms. When they first tried to get into the PDA market, they kept trying to squeeze the entire Windows OS into a handheld device, which made it unnecessarily complex. They repeated this mistake again with their forays into smartphones and tablets.

Microsoft finally started getting it right towards the end of their Zune media player development. Moving forward, they developed a unique interface that worked well on smartphones: Metro UI. The interface to me looks like an amalgam of widgets and icons, merged functionality rather than separated. The tiled motif is unique.

The best part about it is that Metro really plays to the strengths of a touchscreen device. When it first appeared on the radar, there was a great deal of discussion about how it would be an excellent interface for tablet devices. And then Microsoft turned around and completely misunderstood their audience.

They put it on the PC desktop in Windows 8.

The developer preview of Windows 8 has the Metro UI as the default interface. You can access the desktop, but when you click on the familiar location for the start menu, it goes back to the Metro tiled layout. Configuration options are not intuitively located, so you have to do a considerable amount of poking around to find what you need.

Such a radical shift in the interface will not be welcome in the business sector, where abrupt change is frowned upon. Windows XP is still in use in many places simply because there has been no need to change. This is the kind of change that will leave Windows 8 entirely ignored in the business community.

There are already applications that let you switch to the classic Start Menu, but this has a tendency to break things within Windows 8 itself. Not surprising; after all, it is still a developer preview and not release code.

It’s obvious that many people still desire the traditional interface first established 16 years ago with Windows 95. I’m one of them. I respectfully suggest to Microsoft that if they really want Windows 8 to be widely accepted, they find a way to make the Metro UI optional.

Heck, make it an install option. Give the installer a couple of screenshots of what each would look like, call them Metro and Classic. Then the system would default to the one the user wanted as their desktop. The functionality is there. Don’t make us hack the system just to get it working.

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Scott Raymond has been a technologist and system administrator for over 25 years. Starting as a hobbyist in his teens, Scott quickly learned that he could translate his passion and knowledge into a full-time career. He currently works as the IT Manager for a high end audio and network systems integrator in northern California. He has written technology articles for various publications in the past and began contributing to ZDnet as a guest blogger on Jason Perlow's Tech Broiler. Scott and Jason met in New York in the 1990s where they co-managed the New York City Palm Pilot Users' Group.

In his spare time, Scott is a trained chef and avid bicycling enthusiast, as well as a voracious reader of historical, science and horror fiction. He is a huge fan of pop culture, with a wide range of interest in TV shows, movies and games.

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chrcoluk Updated - 10th May
It seems people consider anything that is a change as innovation, oh look I changed something even tho its much less productive I have innovated.

Lets get down to facts.

Just because somethign works well on a phone or any touchscreen device it doesnt mean its better for a mouse and keyboard.
I still use quick launch on win7 and I am not alone, I also use the start menu, typing things in to search for apps is inefficient and no good if you cant spell or rememeber the name of the app. I also disable indexing as it drains performance.
There is no way using a touch screen is more efficent for things like typing, art, and is especially bad if you not close to the screen.

Also I do not remember mass opposition to windows 95, people actually were excited about it, I was also. Also I nearly didnt migrate to windows 7, I only did because I was able to enable quick launch and use a 3rd party app to get the GUI to behave itself. However win8 does have a lot more changed and as it stands its not viable for me.

What we witnessing is a microsoft panic.

Look at their situation.

MS office in danger due to the cloud.
Windows in danger due to the desktop decline.

The 2nd is why they have gone this path on windows 8, they are focusing on touchscreen because thats the hardware thats selling, I will admit this. However I wont get dillusional and say they focusing on it because its better than the windows 7 interface for pc's because it isnt. Microsoft need to get a foot in the mobile market or they in trouble and this is what they trying to do, they could have still seperated the desktop for PC's but I suspect they didnt to keep development costs down because what they doing is already a gamble.

As for me, I wont be buying windows 8, however even if they didnt go down this silyl route I probably would keep using windows 7 anyway as releasing a new OS this quickly has me no reason to change.

As for when windows 7 is EOL and metro is all microsoft has then I wont have ill feelings going to ubuntu or something. As the time has come that I now only use a few core apps no my pc (for work), multimedia apps for entertainment (which ubuntu can do) and games. I can dual boot into win7 or something for games (old games usually I play). It will be a long time before windows games are made that will need windows 8 or higher as even now games will still work on XP.
The problem is that given the choice, Users will install "Classic" on touch screen enabled devices and then blame Microsoft for using desktop class UI on tablets.
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@1773 Perhaps in such a case, it should default to Metro UI on pre-installed devices. The user would then have the option of switching, but then they couldn't say that it was Microsoft's fault because it would be a conscious decision to switch.
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@Scott Raymond

Yeah because history has shown that people won't blame MS for their[users] bad choices.
@jmiller

In general terms I agree with you; however, MS has, at times, also been responsible for its own problems. You need only reflect on the whole debacle with "Vista Capable", as one simple example.
@Scott Raymond
I think in addition to classic mode there should be an option for "Classic mode when docked". This would go to metro mode automatically when undocked and back to classic mode when plugged in to the docking station. I have to say that I use this tablet around 90% more then I use my iPad but most of that use is as a desktop plugged into the docking station and running dual screen with a 24-inch monitor.
@Scott Raymond

When the people who make the world OS spend lots of money on research and design and tons of user testing, then I'll think I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and at least try the OS - the UI certainly works brilliantly on my phone. It'll also work for mouse/kb and touch, but more importantly, those of us with Kinect can see it's also designed for gesture.

There are people who maintain that Windows XP is the pinnacle of desktop design and refuse to use Win 7, but they'll eventually be dragged kicking and screaming into using Win 7, where they'll them be able to dread the arrival of Win 8. Hell, there are still people who think the command line is preferable or eschewed word processing because Tex was all they needed.

Change is always hard, but it's the only constant. You either embrace new designs and new functions or stay stuck with limited functionality and horizons. With Win 8 we are moving on and the desktop is no longer a place where static icons go to die wink
@tonymcs@...
You're right we should trust Steve to know what he's doing.

Sorry did I say Steve; I meant Steve Ballmer.

I wouldn't want to say that about Steve Jobs since I'd immediately be labelled a blind iSheep.
@Scott Raymond The thing is, you're missing the point of having the Metro UI. It's not just about "launching apps from tiles". It also gives you information up front that you don't have with XP/7. Yes, gadgets can do this (to a point) but having a desktop full of icons is really last generation thinking.

There are numerous use cases where you can really maximize the impact and stickiness of your app if you have a live tile associated with it, extending or surfacing relevant functionality and/or information.

While I agree there needs to be a smoother transition from metro to the desktop, I don't agree that it's either "install one or the other". I'd hold off on making that binary statement until we see the beta and how they've smoothed out the transition.
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The problem is that given the choice, Users will install "Classic" on touch screen enabled devices and then blame Microsoft for using desktop class UI on tablets.

Pretty backwards logic I would think, yet Scott Raymond had a perfect answer in his followup.
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This article is so stupid. The whole point of Windows 8 is the new UI and the app store. If you don't want the new apps that will be exclusive to Metro UI then stay with Windows 7. If they made Metro UI and WinRT apps "optional" then there would be no point in even releasing Windows 8.

How do articles like this even get published? You're asking Microsoft to make the entire point of the Windows 8 removable, which would make Windows 8 itself pointless. Microsoft wants the old desktop and Win32 apps to die and this is the first step towards deprecating them. WinRT development and Metro are what needs to be promoted so that Microsoft can eventually close the book on classic Windows.

If you still think a tablet and computer are two separate things with different purposes then you won't get what is going on here. You are destined to be confused by everything happening with Windows going forward if you have been misled to believe a tablet and a PC are different devices.
@cool8man

If "the whole point" of Windows 8 is simply to copy Apple's App store on the desktop concept, and put candy on top of the UI, then I think you've confirmed that there is an inherent problem.

Frankly, I'm not sure why Scott chose to publish this so long after the developer preview was out, long after the general verdict that Metro needs to be switchable was made by many others... Regardless, the core technologies in Windows 8, like WinRT and MinWin are what Windows 8 is about, improving and advancing the core of Windows. Likewise, the MetroUI shows promise for tablet devices *without* the traditional desktop underneath. There's no reason MS can't simply distribute slightly altered versions based on tablet and desktop intent.

You shouldn't have to play with colored tiles to demonstrate the efficacy of a new O/S!
@cool8man
I would argue that this is no longer quite true. Slate devices (not tablets, those have keyboards) like the iPad really aren't PCs at all. They are more like game consoles that also get work done. That is to say, on my PC I can install any applications from any vender any way I want to (disk, download, via an online store, etc.), but on my (theoretical) iPad I can only get "apps" from Apple. There is a real difference between an "app" and an "application" in today's parlance. The former must be approved by the intermediary who sells (or is it licenses?) you your device.

Windows 8 represents the death of the PC, or at least its deprecation. MS is getting into the "app" business. Thus, a Windows 8 computer, at least in "metro" mode, really *isn't* a PC. It only becomes a PC when the user switches to classic mode.

Remember, the P stands for "personal" as in "mine to do what I want with." This is not Apple's vision. And since Apple now makes more money than Microsoft using the console model, it isn't Microsoft's anymore, either.
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NorrisBreeze Updated - 15th Nov
@cool8man Well they both are silicon based. Not sure what your point is. Do you go to coffee shops? Do you take you desktop computer with you?
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@cool8man "If you don't want the new apps that will be exclusive to Metro UI then stay with Windows 7."

That is exactly the point. People will be inclined to stay with Windows 7. I can promise you that's what I'll do if Windows 8 forces users to use the Metro interface.
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@cool8man

Right now a tablet and a PC are two different devices. One day, maybe when we are a little closer to Star Trek, a tablet will be able to do everything a PC can and do it as well, but thats not today, tomorrow, next week or next year.

Maybe, maybe not, MS wants Win32 apps to die. But even if they do, you can count on the fact they don't expect them to die to any significant degree shortly after the release of Windows 8. Thats simply not going to happen. No how no way.

Steve Jobs apparently wanted the PC itself to die, I guess a good strategy from the point of view of a man who's company can seem to sell millions more of anything then anyone else, except for PC's..err...Macs that is. But poor old Steve isn't getting that any time soon either.

There are plenty of proponents of the "cloud" and many of them are claiming we are all on the fast train to the cloud. No we are not. Many of us are dabbling in the cloud here and there, some are trying to roar head on into it true. But most of us, we may be on a slow train that is headed in the general direction of the cloud, but there is no saying if we will slow that ride even more, speed it up stop it all together or if the cloud will end up being in the exact direction we are heading right now. Its quite a ways off so its not wise to get too excited yet about us all moving to the cloud.

Predict, predict, predict. Sure, go ahead, but always make sure you accept the simple realities that currently are and have no immediate signs of dissolving without notice.
@cool8man Yep, there's something stupid here. For a hint about what it really is, look closely in the nearest mirror.
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@cool8man I'll be staying with Win 7 thank you, dont want anything apple, apple like or a buch of apps or what whatever. I want my windows desktop and laptop to function as they do now.
@cool8man +1

Microsoft's move is about the ecosystem. Bringing the devices and usage scenarios closer together provides a better user experience. It also opens up a world of opportunities for the developer community. Whole new classes of software and platforms will be possible when you can target the phone/tablet/desktop/console/tv...
@cool8man The Microsoft Marketing department really did a number on you.
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@cool8man If the whole point of Windows 8 is the new UI and the app store, then you are right, users should then stay with Windows 7. But that is NOT the whole point, as many security and functionality tweaks are being done and will be appreciated by home and business users. But the change in UI is both unnecessary and unwanted by a very large installed business base. Large enterprises will also not want an app store without very strict limits up to and including doing their own, company-controlled store. Health care and financial institutions have extremely locked down managed workstations where users absolutely can not be allowed to load any old app users think they want. Applications for such companies go through rigorous compatibility and security testing before being allowed into production. Such apps have to deal with tight group policy settings, native and add-on drive encryption, port blocking and many other ways of ensuring company and client data is safe and secure and at the same time, keeping support costs down. If you don't understand that, you don't work at a big bank or hospital. Where I work, if you insert a USB stick into a workstation, you will get one brief chance to remove it without any changes and if you miss it, your USB stick will be immediately encrypted and unusable on any other computer without reformatting. HIPPA and SOX compliance requires this and credit card companies are now doing PCI compliance to process payments. This isn't the wild west and user's can't just do anything they want. The "P" in "Personal Computer" is only in the machine you have at home. At work, it's a "workstation" and you'll get what the company says you can get.

And yes, my friend, tablets and computers are indeed two different things when security and payment income depend on them being so for your business. Not all businesses are like the one you work in.
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@jdakula iOS and Windows will become indistinguishable over time. Every passing year iOS and Android adopt Windows features. There is no difference between a tablet and a computer. Anyone who thinks so is either a fool of marketing or unable to see down the path of technological progress past their nose. Apps will grow in capabilities and expectations over time until there is no difference between an app and an application.

Also by your definition the Samasung Galaxy Tab is a computer but the iPad isn't. Considering how similar the devices are in hardware and functionality this distinction you are choosing is silly. Locking down the OS doesn't decide whether it is a computer or not.

There is no revolution taking place we are simply reinventing the wheel for a new generation.
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@cornpie Great, so stay with Win32 and the outdated handful of apps that continue to be made for it. Just don't ask Microsoft to not make Windows because you think you'll be more productive only using MS-DOS.

Computer users laughed at the GUI when they first saw it too. It is absolutely no different with WinRT. We've been through this before, we know what happens to the dinosaurs. Adapt to change or die.

It won't take many months for all development and focus and innovation in software development to be taken over by WinRT for you to realize how silly you were for thinking you could ignore it/ live without it.

What happens when 90% of the apps people talk about and are excited about are WinRT. Its easy to disregard WinRT now when no apps exist.
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chrcoluk Updated - 10th May
It seems people consider anything that is a change as innovation, oh look I changed something even tho its much less productive I have innovated.

Lets get down to facts.

Just because somethign works well on a phone or any touchscreen device it doesnt mean its better for a mouse and keyboard.
I still use quick launch on win7 and I am not alone, I also use the start menu, typing things in to search for apps is inefficient and no good if you cant spell or rememeber the name of the app. I also disable indexing as it drains performance.
There is no way using a touch screen is more efficent for things like typing, art, and is especially bad if you not close to the screen.

Also I do not remember mass opposition to windows 95, people actually were excited about it, I was also. Also I nearly didnt migrate to windows 7, I only did because I was able to enable quick launch and use a 3rd party app to get the GUI to behave itself. However win8 does have a lot more changed and as it stands its not viable for me.

What we witnessing is a microsoft panic.

Look at their situation.

MS office in danger due to the cloud.
Windows in danger due to the desktop decline.

The 2nd is why they have gone this path on windows 8, they are focusing on touchscreen because thats the hardware thats selling, I will admit this. However I wont get dillusional and say they focusing on it because its better than the windows 7 interface for pc's because it isnt. Microsoft need to get a foot in the mobile market or they in trouble and this is what they trying to do, they could have still seperated the desktop for PC's but I suspect they didnt to keep development costs down because what they doing is already a gamble.

As for me, I wont be buying windows 8, however even if they didnt go down this silyl route I probably would keep using windows 7 anyway as releasing a new OS this quickly has me no reason to change.

As for when windows 7 is EOL and metro is all microsoft has then I wont have ill feelings going to ubuntu or something. As the time has come that I now only use a few core apps no my pc (for work), multimedia apps for entertainment (which ubuntu can do) and games. I can dual boot into win7 or something for games (old games usually I play). It will be a long time before windows games are made that will need windows 8 or higher as even now games will still work on XP.

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