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B&N's Nook e-reader: Weirdly unrevolutionary

By | October 20, 2009, 3:05pm PDT

Summary: In addition to this posting, please visit this clarifications posting to get the whole picture. It would be nice to say, as Matt Miller has, that the e-book and e-reader market was revolutionized today. It simply got more interesting. A careful reading of the $259 Nook’s features, and the comparison offered by B&N to the [...]

In addition to this posting, please visit this clarifications posting to get the whole picture.

It would be nice to say, as Matt Miller has, that the e-book and e-reader market was revolutionized today. It simply got more interesting. A careful reading of the $259 Nook’s features, and the comparison offered by B&N to the $259 Amazon Kindle 2, reveals that, while it packs a lot of new ideas, Nook is a combination of innovation and the extraordinarily conventional.

Highlights:

  • Two screens, one 3.5-inch LCD for navigation and purchasing and a six-inch E-Ink display for reading;
  • Virtual keyboard via the LCD display
  • ePub and PDF formats supported;
  • Free 3G connectivity when shopping via BN.com;
  • Sharing of books, across Nook, smartphones and PCs;
  • Wi-Fi built in, but with strange limitations at launch(see below);
  • Synchronization of location, notes and annotation across multiple devices;
  • Audio is supported, though only MP3; Audible books not supported.

    There is much I like about this device, but I am not at the announcement today, where I would be asking a lot of questions I have not seen answered in any coverage, so far. Here, with the apparent downsides first and foremost, is what is known to me at this moment.

    An e-reader designed to get you into the physical Barnes & Noble store. This, and the question of how to get non-BN content onto the Nook, represent the most backward features of the Nook. When you visit a B&N retail store, you’ll receive offers and, soon, the ability to read some e-books in their entirety while in the store. Everything deleted below, while part of this critique has been clarified and extended in this posting.

    There, however, is the rub.

    I’d pointed out before that wireless services for browsing the 500,000+ titles available for free through Google Books, a notable feature of the Nook, probably wouldn’t be supported over the built-in 3G wireless service. It isn’t. You’ll need to download and synch the Nook with your PC, via a USB connection, to move any content not sold by BN.com onto the device. From there, it gets bizarre.

    According to The New York Times’s Motoko Rich, the built-in Wi-Fi networking works only inside Barnes & Noble retail stores:

    With the market for electronic readers and digital books heating up by the day, Barnes & Noble sought to differentiate itself with the wireless feature that consumers can access in any of the chain’s 1,300 stores. Outside of the stores, customers can download books on AT&T’s 3G cellular phone network. (emphasis added)


    A review of the BN.com tech specs for Nook adds the caveat that free wireless service is available “from Barnes & Noble via AT&T.” Note that they are saying you get free wireless service when buying or browsing Barnes & Noble, not when accessing other sites or services. Put this and the quote from the Times together and you get: Free 3G service anywhere, when buying from BN.com. Free Wi-Fi in Barnes & Noble stores, but no Wi-Fi connectivity outside, where you can shop wirelessly on BN.com.

    Comments from riffraffy in TalkBack point to this section of the Nook FAQ, which I read but still find very vague, since they refer only to travel and Wi-Fi:


    Q. Can I use my nook while traveling abroad?

    A.Yes, when you travel abroad, you can read any files that are already on your nook. You can connect to Wi-Fi hotspots that do not use proxy security settings, such those commonly used in hotels, and download eBooks and subscriptions already in your online digital library. You cannot, however, purchase additional eBooks and subscriptions.

    Q. Will new issues of eNewspapers and eMagazines be downloaded to my nook while I’m traveling?

    A. Yes, if you are traveling in the United States, or if you are abroad but connected to a supported Wi-Fi hotspot, new issues are delivered to your online digital library in both cases. When travelling abroad without Wi-Fi access, new issues are not downloaded to your nook (automatically or manually).



    Two things:

    In the first answer, they specifically say that you cannot purchase eBooks or subscriptions over an international Wi-Fi connection. That suggests it is not a fully functioning Wi-Fi connection. Maybe because you are connecting from overseas, maybe not. If you had full Wi-Fi access and a valid BN.com account, what should stop you?

    What is a “supported hotspot” in the second answer? If they mean an AT&T hotspot, my concern remains.

    I wrote that I hoped I was wrong. I think the language here and in the announcement is strangely vague (having seen a lot of strangely vague FAQs turn out to bear bad news) and would have liked to be present at the announcement to ask.

    UPDATE: Paul Biba, who attended the event, added this to his report, which seems to answer clearly the question whether the Nook provides ad hoc Wi-Fi access:


    Wifi can only be used in store for events and in store content. Plan to open up later on.

    B&N should enable ad hoc Wi-Fi access at launch, or disclose more clearly that it will not be available in order to avoid disappointing all the people who are expecting to be able to use Wi-Fi at home or elsewhere not served by an AT&T Hotspot. To do otherwise would be doing damage to the credibility of a very impressive piece of engineering.

    The rest of the content you want to put on the Nook will have to be downloaded via a PC and synched to the Nook. That’s a step back from what the promise of built-in Wi-Fi would lead a buyer to expect—particularly because Nook is advertised as providing access to 500,000 Google Books titles that, in fact, aren’t accessible through the device, but must be synched.

    I hope I am reading this wrong or, that if this is correct, B&N changes the Nook to support ad hoc Wi-Fi access to Google Books. It would be a blunder, forcing readers into retail stores when we want to get away from them, into virtual stores with much broader inventories.

    UPDATE: Google Books, per the updated posting here, can be downloaded free of charge over 3G and Wi-Fi connections.

    Synching is cumbersome and, frankly, what keeps most people, the non-early adopting masses, from using dedicated e-readers. The popularity of smartphone e-reader apps, which outnumber dedicated e-reader unit sales by a factor of at least three, is a clear testimony to the perceived convenience of downloading content to a multi-purpose device. If you’re going to synch, the device has to be extremely useful—and most smartphone apps piggyback on customers’ wireless data plans to make direct downloads easy. Dedicated e-readers that require PC synching will strike most readers as cumbersome, yet Nook still requires synching.

    Cover-flow is all the LCD supports at launch. Apple does cool stuff and lots of people like the Cover Flow interface in iTunes gets a lot of applause. Barnes & Noble has added a 3.5-inch LCD touch screen to the “traditional” e-reader E-Ink display to facilitate iTunes-like shopping. Google’s Android operating system drives this capability, which I think points to some interesting design opportunities. TeleRead reports that during the Q&A at the press conference, B&N execs said there will be an announcement on Android programming access sometime in the future. Nook, however, doesn’t take advantage of any of the other features of Android, such as the potential to browse the Web while reading, and retaining one’s place in, an e-book. There is also no Android e-reader application, closing the door on Google Editions—after all, BN.com will make more selling an e-book directly than the share of revenue allotted by Google Editions to a retailer.

    There are no social features, either, besides lending of books, which we’ll get to in a moment.

    Given the wireless limitations, this makes sense. B&N doesn’t want to subsidize a lot of Web browsing costs due to Nook owners use of the AT&T network. Nor, apparently, does B&N want people using their own Wi-Fi networks to do so.

    The cover-flow interface is also the library management interface, based on comments in all the coverage. That could be problematic with any library of significant size, especially if the Nook does not take advantage of the larger E-Ink screen to list the titles on the device. Scrolling through screens of book covers to reach something not read recently or alphabetically deep in the library is not efficient. That is why iTunes also lets users view their libraries as a list, with small icons and so forth.

    Lending! I speculated yesterday that lending a book will prevent the user from accessing the book, and that is the case. However, the ease of lending is fantastic, based on the claim that all one needs is the lendee’s email address in order to share. In addition to Nook users, PC, Mac, and many smartphone users can borrow a book. All loans expire after 14 days, when the owner of the book regains access.

    Some writers I know have said in various venues online today that sharing is bad for their potential revenues. Bosh! It is the best form of marketing a writer or publisher could ask for, since it allows hand-selling by enthusiastic readers to their friends. The limited access by the owner during the 14 days of the loan is a catalyst for purchases, since friends will want to keep the book beyond the time of the loan and, potentially, want to buy the book in order to return it early, because the owner wants to loan it to someone else. This is a Very Good Thing to the degree that people are willing to embrace DRM-protected content in the first place. We’ll not open that barrel of DRM monkeys at this time other than to point out DRM has not prevented iTunes nor Kindle users from active purchasing.

    Head-to-head with Kindle. Barnes & Noble begs for this comment, because it pits Nook against Kindle in a side-by-side features comparison. The top-line assessment, based on reading with a Kindle and reading about Nook is that they are roughly equal as devices. Both are still too expensive for most normal readers, who buy one to three books a year. They each have strengths, most notably Kindle’s wider use of the Net, such as providing simple browsing, which BN.com will certainly be able to offer in an updated or upgraded version of Nook. Color navigation of books is not a big win for Nook. If Nook is opened up to Android developers, however, it has far more untapped potential because of the combination of the color and E-Ink displays.

    Even with its massive physical retail presence, I think Barnes & Noble will have a hard time catching Amazon, since Amazon is exactly what made virtual retailing work for so many consumers in the first place. That said, having 1,300 retail locations doesn’t hurt. I believe, though, that this will be B&N’s challenge: To listen to the customers at retail who don’t buy, and to redesign rapidly in response. I hope B&N has organized itself to capture this feedback so that it doesn’t go to waste.

    B&N’s plan to bundle hardcover and e-books, reported by TeleRead, makes a lot of sense. That will win customers at retail.

    I am glad to see Nook includes a Mirco SD memory slot, which will allow the device to hold up to 17,500 books, according to Barnes & Noble. I think the value of a device like this is its ability to search a massive library at one’s fingertips. I keep all the old copies of the newspapers and magazines I read on Kindle to search later, eliminating a lot of piles of paper and filing I used to do—search makes large archives useful. Amazon should put the expansion slot back in Kindle or I will eventually be ready to sacrifice one year’s newspaper and magazine archives for Nook or an alternative that caters to my data pack rat tendencies. All magazine and newspaper publishers should be thinking about selling archives and cloud-based archive access to e-reader (hardware and software) users.

    On Day One of the Nook, it’s in a dead heat in competition for customers new to e-readers. Existing Kindle users are not likely to convert based on this one device, which is likely temporary, as BN.com is aligned with several other e-reader hardware developers, including Plastic Logic and iRex, all of which will support ePub files, making the books sold by BN.com portable across all such devices (though only through manual synching in some cases). It’s only a matter of time before Amazon adds ePub support. Maybe just days.

    Cross-posted at BooksAhead.com.

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    RE: B&N's Nook e-reader: Weirdly unrevolutionary
    pnyorker 3rd Dec
    I was denied discount on the new nook because my membership is expiring next month. WTF! I asked the clerk, even though i have automatic membership renewal? He said, when your renewal kicks in, then you can be discounted. But that's next month, i said. He just shrug his shoulders. I did the same, turn around and cancelled even my membership. Goodbye nook, Hello Kindle Fire.
    I honestly don't see myself buying an e-reader for books, simply because the cost. $25 for a good hardback is something you want to keep. Even paperbacks are worth keeping if the story is there. You cannot keep digital stuff long term. You'd have to buy it again. How many has re-read LOTR in their lifetimes? I've re-read it 7 times, from the 1970 copy I started with. Do you think I could do that with a digital copy?

    However, what if you had a very low cost e-reader, for reading magazine and newspapers? Say $50 for the basic reader, then pay $.50 - .75 a day for an e-copy of a newspaper. Then you can take it anywhere, reading it anywhere you wish? Now that's an idea that may save newspapers. You can't read a newspaper or magazine easily on a netbook. Desktops are even worse. In this case, they may think of re-designing the layout of newspapers.

    However if they think DRM is the way to go, then they may as well kiss their business goodbye.

    If I was designing this, I'd made sure it's using open-standards. I'd also bring the price down, and then set it with standard wi-fi, AND a USB connection, so you can download files via computer, or wireless. Using AT&T as your only carrier or even worse using B&N ONLY wi-fi just helps limit your customer base. A cellular pcmcia card could be an optional feature.

    If you want to sell things, you think of the customers first, not your business partners.

    - Kc
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    You raise a lot of points that...
    Mitch Ratcliffe 20th Oct 2009
    I think will limit the growth of the e-book market for a long time.
    Excellent thoughts!

    -Mitch
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    Honestly, how often are you away from home or the office, cooling your heels at some government office waiting behind 20 other people, or on a train, taxi, bus or airplane, and didn't think to pack a novel or newspaper to wile away the time.

    With ANY ebook reader, you have potentially hundreds, if not thousands of books, magazines and newspapers at your fingertips.

    Many the time I've sat at my doctors office or at the hospital waiting for my specialist, whip out my Palm smart-phone and carry on reading my latest novel (from Baen.com!), or checking up on the New York Post, CNN or my local paper, all of whom I download automatically first thing in the morning.

    Like you, I cannot justify the price of the dedicated ebook readers, especially here in Canada, where Amazon will NOT be selling the Kindle, and no word on B&N yet. But that does not stop me from using Mobipocket and FW's eReader. In my mind, ebooks are the wave of the future and simply have to come down in price eventually. Publishers only lately have realized that they can make scads of money without almost 0% overhead, selling ebooks.

    In some instances, Publishers are using a new tactic - ARC's - Advanced Reader Copies. These are Author's rough drafts, not totally edited prior to publishing, put on sale anyways for a premium price, but then, you have access to your favourite Author's latest tome up to 1 year in advance of it's scheduled publishing date. So what if there are typo's, and other grammatical/factual errors? You get to read that book well ahead of Opra's book club!. Then when the polished final version comes out on it's release date, buyers then purchase the book again! A Two-fer and double sale for the publisher/Author! (I've been caught several times in that trap - and love it!)

    DRM - Its here, and I have no problem. With Secure Mobipocket, for example, I can read my ebooks on 4 separate devices, but no more. Why would I need to read any book on more than 4 devices? This stops me from re-selling or giving my book away to someone else, basically satisfying Copyright laws and protecting the Author. I have no problem with that - I paid for the book, it's mine. If someone else wants to read it, they can just go out and buy it. Or borrow one of my devices to read the book (I have lots of older PDA's sitting in my drawer, 2 or which are also registered with Mobipocket as among my 4 ebook readers).

    We have to remember that these are the first wave of devices to come out, they are fiercely competitive, and yes, they will eventually start coming down in price, include more features, connectivity, and perhaps at some far-away date, gel down to some generic format, size, price and connectivity that is the same for everyone because simply not doing so will result in loss of customers. But not just yet - this is still the wild-west of "electronic literary access", and only time will tell which direction Publishers will head next. Perhaps folding OLED readers that you roll or fold up and stick into your wallet/purse will be the final result. Who knows?
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    you are wrong about limited WiFi
    reverseswing 20th Oct 2009
    Quote: "Q. Can I use my nook while traveling abroad?

    X Yes, when you travel abroad, you can read any files that are already on your nook. You can connect to Wi-Fi hotspots that do not use proxy security settings, such those commonly used in hotels, and download eBooks and subscriptions already in your online digital library. You cannot, however, purchase additional eBooks and subscriptions. "

    this is in the FAQ section, you might want to read it.
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    Again, it's not clear
    Mitch Ratcliffe 20th Oct 2009
    Repeating partially my reply about the FAQ answers:

    In the answer above, they specifically say that you cannot purchase
    eBooks or subscriptions. That suggests it is not a fully functioning Wi-
    Fi connection. Maybe because you are connecting from overseas,
    maybe not.

    What is a "supported hotspot" in the second answer about wireless,
    which you did not quote? If they mean an AT&T hotspot, my concern
    is remains.

    What I wrote was that I hoped I was wrong. Hopefully, this is an
    answer, but I think the language here and in the announcement is
    strangely vague.
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    Too pessimistic
    nyrgall 21st Oct 2009
    I think you're being overly pessimistic. The FAQ clearly states it's possible to use wifi hotspots. The sole reason why it's not possible to purchase new books ("while travelling") is probably legal concerns. Just like it's not possible to use pandora radio in Europe or most other places outside the US.

    Same with the "supported" hotspots. Most likely that is just legalese butt covering...

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    Unfortunately, not wrong
    Mitch Ratcliffe 20th Oct 2009
    UPDATE: Paul Biba, who attended the event, added
    this to his report , which seems to
    answer clearly the question whether the Nook provides ad hoc Wi-Fi
    access:

    Wifi can only be used in store for events and in store
    content. Plan to open up later on.
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    That doesn't make sense.
    bhartman36 21st Oct 2009
    I still think there's a misunderstanding going on here, either with you or with Paul Biba. If the FAQ specifically says that you can use the wifi connection outside of Barnes & Nobel, why would you think otherwise?

    I suspect that the Wifi cannot be used outside of the store for purchases. That's a slightly different situation (assuming that the Nook is going to include a Web browser in some incarnation).

    The only other possibility I see is that you can use the wifi to transfer books from your computer to the Nook. I don't see any other explanation for them saying that the Nook can access other wifi hotspots.
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    I am waiting for a clear answer
    Mitch Ratcliffe 21st Oct 2009
    which I haven't got from B&N or the PR people they've inserted in the
    dialogue. They have said, via an external agency, that Wi-Fi is fully
    functional but no one from the company will go on the record about that
    or provide an explanation why three reporters, from TeleRead, The Wall
    Street Journal and The New York Times have on-the-record statements
    from the event saying Wi-Fi is not enabled outside stores at launch.
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    Um, you can access WiFi other than B&N:

    From Nook FAQ:

    Q. Can I use my nook while traveling abroad?

    A.Yes, when you travel abroad, you can read any files that are already on your nook. You can connect to Wi-Fi hotspots that do not use proxy security settings, such those commonly used in hotels, and download eBooks and subscriptions already in your online digital library. You cannot, however, purchase additional eBooks and subscriptions.

    Q. Will new issues of eNewspapers and eMagazines be downloaded to my nook while I'm traveling?

    A. Yes, if you are traveling in the United States, or if you are abroad but connected to a supported Wi-Fi hotspot, new issues are delivered to your online digital library in both cases. When travelling abroad without Wi-Fi access, new issues are not downloaded to your nook (automatically or manually).
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    Not as clear as you think
    Mitch Ratcliffe 20th Oct 2009
    Two things:

    In the first answer, they specifically say that you cannot purchase
    eBooks or subscriptions. That suggests it is not a fully functioning Wi-
    Fi connection. Maybe because you are connecting from overseas,
    maybe not.

    What is a "supported hotspot" in the second answer? If they mean an
    AT&T hotspot, my concern is remains.

    What I wrote was that I hoped I was wrong. Hopefully, this is an
    answer, but I think the language here and in the announcement is
    strangely vague.
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    Sorry, I was right, unfortunately.
    Mitch Ratcliffe 20th Oct 2009
    UPDATE: Paul Biba, who attended the event, added
    this to his report , which seems to
    answer clearly the question whether the Nook provides ad hoc Wi-Fi
    access:

    Wifi can only be used in store for events and in store
    content. Plan to open up later on.
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    Contributr
    Paul Biba got it wrong
    Ed Burnette 21st Oct 2009
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    Or...
    DevStar 21st Oct 2009
    Paul Biba was ambiguous:
    "Wifi can only be used in store for events and in store content. Plan to open up later on."

    Is he saying that "Wifi can only be used in stores" OR "Wifi, when used in B&N stores, can only be used for the following". That is the B&N hotspot will not give full internet access. I think he may have meant the latter, hence the confusion.
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    The Times and Journal reported the same thing
    Mitch Ratcliffe 21st Oct 2009
    I am still trying to get clarification from B&N. Matt Miller got a statement
    from Fleishman PR, not B&N, and so far, I cannot get anyone from B&N to
    go on the record that Wi-Fi will be enabled.
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    Surprised they didn't offer a larger screen given that
    the next generation all seem to be larger: the upcoming
    iRex DR800 (8"), Sony 900BC (7") and the PlasticLogic Que
    (10"). Otherwise, it sounds like a decent new reader.
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    They can do that next....
    Mitch Ratcliffe 20th Oct 2009
    Kindle DX hasn't been a screaming success, compared to the smaller
    Kindles. B&N has time to introduce a bigger Nook E-Ink display later, but
    has clearly targeted Kindle 2 with this product.
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    RE: B&N's Nook e-reader: Weirdly unrevolutionary
    riffraffy Updated - 20th Oct 2009
    No, you are still wrong.

    As your blogger (as well as the WSJ live-blogger) both state, in-store "only" WiFi is a temporary condition--not a permanent feature. Geez, they are just rolling the thing out. I imagine the WiFi hang up has to do with trying to figure out how to allow in-store "only" users free--complete--book access, using the B&N store's WiFi, and not allow the free book reading when not in a B&N store.

    That the B&N's Nook FAQ say the Nook's WiFi is available "abroad" should put the matter to rest.

    http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/support/

    http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/10/20/live-blogging-the-barnes-noble-nook-e-reader-launch/?mod=rss_WSJBlog?mod=
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    Then, I am right
    Mitch Ratcliffe 20th Oct 2009
    Actually, you make my point. Ad hoc Wi-Fi access is turned off. I didn't
    say it was a permanent condition.

    Sorry, but I am actually right. It promises Wi-Fi without providing buyers
    information about that limitation anywhere on the site, except in vaguely
    worded statements in the FAQ.
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    I'd also add
    Mitch Ratcliffe 20th Oct 2009
    that the fact B&N took the time to write their FAQ and marketing in such
    a vague way, rather than making the crippled Wi-Fi plainly evident on
    the site, suggests they don't currently have a timeline for enabling full
    Wi-Fi connectivity.

    They may be just launching it, but that cleverly vague language and the
    resulting disappoint of buyers will do a lot of damage to an otherwise
    really great alternative to Kindle. Wouldn't it be better if, having had this
    pointed out, B&N enables full Wi-Fi, which is what they promised, or gave
    a concrete date on which they will deliver it?
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    For the record, someone else thinks the "e-book and e-reader market was revolutionized today"

    "That sound you heard was the air being let out of the Kindle's tires," wrote Gartner Vice President Allen Weiner on the technology research company's blog.

    Weiner, reached by phone, said the pre-holiday timing was right for the Nook, as many consumers have been delaying a purchase, knowing more e-readers would hit the market, including rumors of a possible tablet device from Apple.

    "The timing works very nicely with Barnes & Noble to come in with a device priced competitively with Amazon that supports open standard," he said.

    "The impact of that (open standard) is so big," he added. "This is a game changer."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idCNN2031905820091020?rpc=44
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    Everyone's entitled
    Mitch Ratcliffe 21st Oct 2009
    to an opinion. I think if Allen had been aware the Wi-Fi would work only
    in B&N stores for some unspecified period of time, he would have been
    more skeptical about the timing of the launch. If he was aware of it and
    said this, he's simply mistaken and I'd be happy to discuss it with him
    here or anywhere else. He and I have been around this industry a long
    time and it's not the first time we've disagreed, but I respect his opinion
    while disagreeing with his conclusion.
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    from Zdnet's Matthew Miller

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/mobile-gadgeteer/?p=2101&tag=content;col1

    I confirmed that you can access and purchase books via both WiFi and AT&T 3G from any place where you have access to a network, including your home WiFi network. The Barnes & Noble store experience is just an enhanced experience that presents you with free content and also allows you to browse through books, just like you can physically in the bookstore.
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    Sharing is good
    richslab@... 21st Oct 2009
    I know one of the reason the people I know (including myself) don't like purchasing video downloads is because you can't share them. Sure it would be nice if everyone that wanted to watch purchased but the reality is none of us are purchasing because we can't share. I think the same thing is going to hold true for ebooks or any form of digital media. Better to build it in so you have some control rather than pretend it isn't a selling point. It also makes one less reason for people to try to figure out how to do it illegally.
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    The manufacturers of electronic book readers still don't get it. What is needed is a reader that can display a high school or college textbook or a technical book such as published by O'Reilly for example, and thereby get the cost down to under $10 for these books. The reader needs to use an open eBook format so that anybody can be an author and put their books on line for free or whatever cost they want to charge. Book readers need to become as ubiquitous as cell phones or at least netbooks. We will know that they have finally arrived when you can buy a book reader at the dollar store.
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    this does support open formats
    reverseswing 21st Oct 2009
    other than Kindle, i think all readers support open formats. as for textbooks, i'm sure that's the next target for these companies - they are in it to make money and expand their business. it just takes time.
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    If it's not Apple...
    Graham Ellison 21st Oct 2009
    You make some valid points right up to where your optimism gets the
    better of you.

    It's true, the manufacturers of electronic book readers still don't get it.

    You're right, high school or college textbooks and technical books
    can't be displayed on any of the current book readers.

    But your idea that readers need to use an open eBook format is
    seriously flawed.

    I do agree, such an idea would be ideal for users. But the reality is
    that it wouldn't work.

    First of all, piracy would be rife. You only have to look at what's
    happening in the music industry: Only one in 20 digital music
    downloads are legal.

    The whole concept would be a deal breaker. No-one would make any
    profit.

    And how do we know this?

    Remember how conservative the music industry was when Shawn
    Fanning stared to do his theng? Remember how the music industry
    reacted? Yep, they buried their heads in the sand then went straight to
    law. They didn't even consider evolving, modernising and offering
    downloading themselves. Instead they carried on hemorrhaging money
    as people downloaded and shared files.

    Then Apple came along and showed them how to do it. But the
    negotiations were long and protracted, and the solution is closed
    DRM, not open.

    Now, let's look at the publishing industry. If the music industry was
    [and still is] conservative, the publishing industry is stuck in the 19th
    Century - at least by comparison with a modern online business.

    There is no way in hell they could be sold the idea of an open source
    solution. There are far too many competing interests between
    publishing houses to make an open plan work.

    But the lack of colour in book readers has been an issue from day one,
    and always will be. Bezos seems to have willingly walked himself into
    a cul-de-sac with this one, and Sony don't seem to be thinking
    beyond black and white.

    If this whole market is to take off, it will be totally dependent upon
    Apple to come up with a solution that addresses all the requirements
    of a device that you want to carry around. Of course colour is
    essential. But we're simply not huge book readers, so the book
    reading function has to be just one of several functions that the new
    device does really well.

    And having said all that, nothing will happen unless Apple's research
    proves that it will work - and sell. The reader experience will have to
    be great. It will have to be an internet browser. That's a given in my
    opinion. Battery life will have to be long. Quite simply, it will have to
    be the iMac and the iPod and the iPhone of the next decade.

    And finally, if you still want the open source network to deliver such a
    device, just watch how they do with Android, and remember how the
    promise of Linux has gone.
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    Mitch Ratcliffe 21st Oct 2009
    Graham,

    Let's make a distinction between "open" and "unprotected." An open
    e-book format would be portable across multiple devices. ePub is not
    completely portable, because it is implemented with different DRM by
    each e-book publisher/distributor, and B&N and Adobe have
    announced an initiative to try to resolve that.

    But ePub is aiming for that openness. It is not, however, DRM-free and
    need not be. I believe some kind of access control will be with e-
    books for a long time, not because it is optimal but for the very
    reasons you describe.

    The business goal of all the players in this market right now is to
    create lock-in based on a user experience built on library
    management (curation of one's library, synching across devices, and a
    format-and-device usage model), so they can sell books in the future.
    None of the leaders in e-book readers now, including B&N, really want
    to make a hardware device, but they will to have the opportunity to
    engage readers as they begin to build digital libraries.

    I don't think color is terribly important to e-book reading. There will
    be a market for color, though I believe mostly on PC screens. Social
    features are critical to expanding the reading experience. Simply
    getting words on a digital page is a sort of downgrading of the
    reading experience that digital lending doesn't solve, as dialogues
    about books by readers will extend the relationship readers have with
    their books (not all books, but the ones that matter to them).

    I'm not endorsing Android, only saying that with the web-centric
    features it offers it seems strange not to even have a web browser on
    the device.

    Mitch
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    Nookie Reader??
    davekaminski@... 21st Oct 2009
    hello?
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    Is There An App For This?
    Scalor 21st Oct 2009
    I want to read and buy ebooks from B&N on my iPod Touch. Is there an app from B&N to duplicate the functions of the Nook on my Touch? I'm not going to carry around another device and if I'm home I'll just read physical books.
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    I believe so
    bruceg@... 21st Oct 2009
    I believe B&N makes an ereader app for the iPhone and iTouch. Another blog I read here on ZDNet refers to being able to read loaned books on Apple (and other) devices. I downloaded the B&N eReader app for my PC. It's essentially the same as the program from eReader.com, which B&N bought along with Fictionwise.com.
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    Yes, check their web site.
    BillDem 21st Oct 2009
    There are links to the B&N reader application on their web site.
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    Can you play and MP3 file while you read a book? I hope so.
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    Yes.
    Mitch Ratcliffe 21st Oct 2009
    You can read and listen simultaneously. Same on the Kindle, btw.
    Android=open source.
    It will be jail-broken: open access to WIFI, web browser, DRM crack,etc.
    Price could be lower.
    Supports ePub, the standard eBook format. Soon all ebooks will be available in this format and all readers will support it (just like all music players support mp3)
    Supports PDF.

    Pretty good.

    But I'm waiting for a tablet at this price with color LCD touchscreen, web browser and PDF/ePub ebook reader software with open WIFI access, mp3 player, text to speech, and whatever other apps I want. Running an open-source OS. I don't care about eInk or battery life. 8 hours battery is fine with me (similar to my smartphone)
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    RE: B&N's Nook e-reader: Weirdly unrevolutionary
    d.j.elliott@... 21st Oct 2009
    I despair; I really do. McLuhan got it right: We drive into the future using only our rearview mirror.

    An ebook reader should not be just a digitized hard copy of book....which can only be toy for the rich and idle.
    Where is the ereader for students? with color, with hyperlinks? with sound? with built-in dictionaries? The cost & heft of textbooks makes an ebook ideal, yet all we get is tiny screens and 'ink.'

    Why is it that these devices are so limited?
    I am wondering why students in a college class don't just buy one copy of a text, and using a Fujitsu Scansnap, make (20 pages, double-sdied in under a minute) and distribute PDFs of the texts???

    As long as we allow these buzzards to charge insane amounts of money for books and devices to read them, will there be any incentive to innovate?
    I'm glad to see they are adopting the standard epub format, although I'm still very annoyed that I can't sell my ebook like I can a real book. Also, ebooks still need to be priced at or below the price of paperbacks. It's crazy to charge the same for an infinitely copy-able digital file as you charge for a paper and ink version where each copy has to be printed, stocked, and shipped. Paper is heavy. Eliminating shipping alone will be a substantial cost savings over selling paperbacks. Any excuse they give for charging more than a paperback is complete BS. Nobody with a brain will believe it.
    I have the Kindle and I love my Kindle. I also read a huge
    amount of books (5 per week) so it made sense for me to
    have one. I have to agree that for someone who doesn't
    read this is a waste of money, but the same can be said for
    any number of tech gadgets that are purchased by people
    who only use them once in a while.
    As a Kindle owner I was excited about a couple of features
    that I have been begging Amazon for.
    The ability to lend books, yes it does makes sense that you
    can't access it while it's on loan... you couldn't access a
    real book you had loaned to a friend.
    The swappable batteries, I travel quite a bit to places
    where I might not be able to plug in very often to charge
    so these are great, and expandable port.

    What I think is going to put a huge dent in Kindle sales
    and bump up the Nook sales is the fact that so many of
    the people who purchased the Kindle in June or July are
    super pissed about the two price drops in less than 3
    months, and are telling their friends to wait for the Nook,
    before deciding to make their e-reader purchase. I know I
    was pretty ticked with Amazon when the first price drop
    happened and I was 2 days outside of getting the
    difference back, but when less than 2 months later the
    price dropped again I almost threw the thing against the
    wall. Now, I know prices go down and tech upgrades, but
    two prices drops in three months is a little over the top.
    Plus now to use it Internationally I have to buy a whole
    other reader rather than do some sort of software upgrade.
    So if I have to spend another $279 to get an international
    reader I'm more likely to wait for the B&N Nook than give
    Amazon anymore of my money.

    Right now I'm so annoyed at Amazon that I have stopped
    purchasing books for the Kindle and am only downloading
    stuff I get for free. Considering the amount that I read it's
    a good chunk of money I'm saving and Amazon is losing. I
    know they don't particularly care about me and my $100
    bucks per month, but maybe B&N will.

    I know I shouldn't complain about $110 considering I am
    fortunate enough to have the ability to purchase a Kindle
    and spend the kind of money I do on books (although
    work reimburses me for them), but it's kind of a matter of
    principal for me.
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    That's too pessimistic
    nyrgall 21st Oct 2009
    I think you're being overly pessimistic. The FAQ clearly states it's possible to use wifi hotspots. The sole reason why it's not possible to purchase new books ("while travelling") is probably legal concerns. Just like it's not possible to use pandora radio in Europe or most other places outside the US.

    Same with the "supported" hotspots. Most likely that is just legalese butt covering...

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    The asking price of E-reader are wasted money & time.
    I'am waiting for a 10" tablet PC that works as good as netbook, e reader and GPS.
    This is a challenge for PC manufactures.
    Are apple has already in a pipeline to manufacture it and release it before christmas!!!
    Maybe I can call it 10" itpod (I tablet pod)...!!!
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    I disagree
    steeleblue_cactus 21st Oct 2009
    "Synching is cumbersome and, frankly, what keeps most people, the non-early adopting masses, from using dedicated e-readers. The popularity of smartphone e-reader apps, which outnumber dedicated e-reader unit sales by a factor of at least three, is a clear testimony to the perceived convenience of downloading content to a multi-purpose device. If you?re going to synch, the device has to be extremely useful?and most smartphone apps piggyback on customers? wireless data plans to make direct downloads easy. Dedicated e-readers that require PC synching will strike most readers as cumbersome, yet Nook still requires synching."

    Unless this device differs greatly from every other device I have ever connected to my PC syncing should be a breeze. I think the main reason people have used their phones/other mobile devices are two-fold: it's a device they already own. and 2) they may have used it for many years (I have been reading books on my phone/PDA for well over 8 years.

    Not everyone will use or want an e-reader. But for people who read a lot or travel they are great. For the person who reads one book a month or so it's probably overkill.

    I have a Sony and love it. I use it just about every day. Syncing to my PC and loading up on books before a trip is a no brainer. I usually spend a couple of hours once in a while and grab some books and load them. They are then there when I want them. Oh, 90% of my books were free.

    Since getting my e-reader my husband has stopped complaining about all the books I have collected. And I don't have to go through them a couple of times a year and decide which to keep and which to donate just so I can have room to collect more! Gotta love it if you are a reader!!

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    i think this is all assinine i have a touch with all the reading apps i love it and wouldn't trade for anything i get barns & noble kindle ereader and all the others ipod has to offer who needs the other readers??????
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    Not for me
    sgtm8@... 22nd Oct 2009
    I will not buy a device to read ebooks. Not the Kindle, not the Nook. I have bought pdf format books on Amazon before. It was convient when I didn't want to wait to get the book. Since Amazon came out with the Kindle, you can no longer find pdf books on Amazon. So I started buying the ebook reader version on BN. Those work on any computer or pda. If BN messes up (in my opinion) like Amazon did, and stop offering ebooks that can be read on my computer, then they will just lose sales they would have gotten from me, just like Amazon did.
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    some haven't tried e-ink....
    k_swiss 22nd Oct 2009
    I don't think people get the purpose of e-ink, or think it
    doesn't matter as much as it does.

    You can read, and there is pigment on a matte surface
    that reflects light similar to paper. In other words, the
    strain on the eyes is the same as reading a book.

    I have an Iphone, but reading for more than an hour give
    me a headache, plus the screen is small. My father in law
    has a Kindle, and reading the newspaper or books is much
    more enjoyable than the iphone.

    I also read 100+ pages of pdfs a day as a student.

    I can see color as an issue if you read technical material
    for graphs or whatever, but I haven't read a color page
    besides a magazine since 8th grade (grad student now.)

    I'll look forward to a really good tablet PC, (apple or
    otherwise), but if it doesn't have e-ink, I'll own an e-
    reader also. I read way to much to have to stare at a
    backlit screen all day.
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    Why pay $260 for an eBook reader?
    e_caroline@... Updated - 24th Oct 2009
    Why, oh why... would anyone pay $260 for an eBook reader when a full out netbook costs about $300 or so?

    As far as classic books go... there is project Gutenberg.

    As far as a ton of other pdf content, such as paid subscriptions to Scientific American, again why limit oneself to a piece of equipment like an eBook reader?

    When laptops cost $1500 and there was nothing much cheaper.. an eBook reader for a few hundred bucks made some sense.

    With netbooks at around $300 or so.... why bother with a crippled, DRM-ish device like an eBook reader?
    I was denied discount on the new nook because my membership is expiring next month. WTF! I asked the clerk, even though i have automatic membership renewal? He said, when your renewal kicks in, then you can be discounted. But that's next month, i said. He just shrug his shoulders. I did the same, turn around and cancelled even my membership. Goodbye nook, Hello Kindle Fire.

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