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Cloud: it's not all or nothing

By | May 11, 2010, 10:38am PDT

Summary: There’s a new maturity in the air at this year’s All About The Cloud conference. The SaaS industry is at last learning to live with conventional installed software - and vice versa.

I’m at the opening session of All About The Cloud, the SaaS industry conference that results from the merger of OpSource’s successful SaaS Summit with the Software and Information Industry Association’s influential OnDemand event. Apart from DreamForce, this has now become the must-attend event on the SaaS industry conference calendar and provides an invaluable opportunity to get up to date with sentiment among SaaS and cloud vendors [disclosure: I'm a speaker at the event, paying my own way, and both OpSource and SIIA are past consulting clients].

From a sentiment perspective, the opening session has set an interesting tone, perhaps best summed up by Saugatuck Technology analyst and CEO Bill McNee, who has just completed a presentation on current market trends. His very first statement was that the world is not moving wholesale to the cloud — the cloud will co-exist with on-premises IT infrastructure for the foreseeable future.

“I don’t like the word hybrid,” he added. “We call it an interwoven world. The vast majority of the new money will go the cloud, but we’ll build bridges between these two environments.”

The opening keynote, by Intuit CTO Tayloe Stansbury, reinforced this message from a different perspective. “Likely you know us for boxes of software that people run on their desktops,” he had begun by saying. He went on to discuss Intuit’s early commitment to using the cloud to deliver services, beginning with the launch of the web version of TurboTax in 1999, and ran through the company’s now vast catalog of online software and services. All of its SaaS lines, he revealed, amount to $1 billion in revenues, and the total revenues of what Intuit calls connected services — which adds to the SaaS total other important online services that don’t fall into classic definitions of software such as merchant services and tax e-filing — come to $2 billion. “That accounts for about 60% of our company’s revenue,” he concluded (should someone tell Sage I wonder?).

So conventional software vendors are becoming cloud providers, while cloud providers are having to learn how to work in harmony with conventional IT infrastructure. Cloud is here to stay, but I sense a new maturity at this year’s conference, which sees it taking its place within the evolving mainstream software industry. What does that mean for concepts like private cloud? Well that’s the subject of the panel I’ll be moderating tomorrow, so let me leave the answer to that question until then.

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Since 1998, Phil Wainewright has been a thought leader in cloud computing as a blogger, analyst and consultant.

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Phil Wainewright

Since 1998, Phil Wainewright has been a thought leader in cloud computing as a blogger, analyst and consultant. He founded pioneering website ASPnews.com, and later Loosely Coupled, which covered enterprise adoption of web services and SOA. As CEO of strategic consulting group Procullux Ventures, he has developed an evaluation framework to help ISVs and enterprises select cloud platforms, and advises US and European vendors on messaging, positioning and go-to-market. His newest role as an industry advocate is vice-president of EuroCloud.

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RE: Cloud: it's not all or nothing
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RE: Cloud: it's not all or nothing
DavidTurner1 13th May 2010
Great to see the cloud world maturing in it's outlook. At UNIT4 we've been saying for some time that the user world isn't split into 'cloud vs non-cloud' - the vast majority of customers want to mix cloud or saas technologies with their existing applications, infrastructure and development environments. Whether you call it a 'hybrid' or an 'interwoven' world, it's certainly the reality for the vast majority of the world today.

Maybe the more rabid commentators in the market will stop attacking those of us who've been putting this view for some time as being some sort of 'cloud denyers'. We're not, we just live in the real world!
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RE: Cloud: it's not all or nothing
Charlie630 13th Jan 2011
Cloud integration will take some time for the "cloud denyers" and the "rabid commentators" to agree on best practices of on-prem and cloud system working together and stand alone and which is better for individual integrations projects. As technology moves forward to find better ways to integrate applications.
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RE: Cloud: it's not all or nothing
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Cloud integration will take some time for the "cloud denyers" and the "rabid commentators" to agree on best practices of on-prem and cloud system working together and stand alone and which is better for individual integrations projects. As technology moves forward to find better ways to integrate applications.
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