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Ryan Naraine, Emil Protalinski and Dancho Danchev

Conficker's estimated economic cost? $9.1 billion

By | April 23, 2009, 11:41am PDT

Summary: In a recent blog post, the Cyber Secure Institute claims that based on their previous studies into the average cost of such malware attacks, the economic loss due to the Conficker worm could be as high as $9.1 billion. Despite that their analysis also considered a much limited infection rate (200,000 infected hosts), they claim that [...]

In a recent blog post, the Cyber Secure Institute claims that based on their previous studies into the average cost of such malware attacks, the economic loss due to the Conficker worm could be as high as $9.1 billion.

Despite that their analysis also considered a much limited infection rate (200,000 infected hosts), they claim that the cost of the virus in this case is still around $200 million. The research excludes an important fact though - not only is Conficker still active and infecting, but also, according to the most recent infection rate estimate courtesy of the Conficker Working Group, the number of infected hosts is 3.5 million.

Here are more details from the analysis:

“Any analysis of the true impact of Conficker must also factor in the (wasted) time, resources, and energies of the cyber-community, governments, companies and individuals.  Extrapolating out from studies on the average cost of similar past attacks, the total economic cost of this worm (including the cost of efforts to combat the worm, the cost of purchasing counter-measure software) could be as high as $9.1 billion.  Even using the single, outlying data source that suggests a much more limited scope of infection (<200,000 —vastly less than all other sources  suggest—the cost of this virus is still roughly $200 million dollars.”

The number of Conficker infected hosts is in fact much higher than the number provided by the Conficker Working Group in the sense that behind a single IP there may be many other hosts NAT-ed in the local network, adding up yet another variable that has the potential to undermine such estimates. Moreover, the analysis cites that the estimate includes the cost of purchasing counter-measure software, a cost which from my perspective has to be excluded due to the fact that working counter-measures are virtually free due to the impact of the worm.

Therefore no additional costs are added for purchasing counter-measure software since based on the current agreements with security vendors, the enterprises are supposed to be automatically protected from the worm.

In the past, there have been numerous attempts to estimate the cost of malware, from mi2g’s $157 billion and $192 billion worldwide loss in 2004 due to malware infections, followed by Computer Economics study stating that In 2006, direct damages fell to $13.3 billion, from $14.2 billion in 2005, and $17.5 billion in 2004. The huge difference of the estimates is due to the different variables taken into consideration by the two companies.

In a perfect world all affected parties would be sharing information on the actual infection rate and the costs due to the worm’s infection, thereby confirming that their enterprises have been compromised and potentially ruining business relations for the sake of contributing to the quality of such global studies. In the real world, a Conficker infected international company would try to stay beneath the radar if it can, just as the average Internet user would continue getting exploited through one/two years old client side vulnerabilities, a paradox that’s driving cybercrime globally.

Moreover, based on the geolocated chart courtesy of IBM’s ISS and Symantec’s logical conclusion that users, perhaps even companies with illegal copies of Windows represent the largest proportion of the infected set, it’s worth pointing out that denying access to critical patches used as foundation for such worms citing pirated copies, ends up in a situation where the legal owners of the OS would feel the spam/phishing/DDoS/crimeware effect coming from the infected owners of the illegal copies in the long term. Now, would someone located in these countries bother allocating additional resources to protect against Conficker, given that they didn’t even bother to purchase the OS at the first place?

Personally, I never take these rough estimates seriously. There are simply way too many variables to take into consideration, especially the worm’s global impact, the different allocation for asset protection across the world based on the local economic climate, and the efficiencies and inefficients achieved in cleaning malware within a particular company - factors that can greatly decrease or even increase the estimate.

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RE: Conficker's estimated economic cost? $9.1 billion
FAULKNE 13th Oct
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Windows ROI vs. Open Source
Christian_<>< 23rd Apr 2009
This makes me wonder how people think they
would be out of business UNLESS they use
Windows.

$9 BILLION DOLLARS, this puts companies OUT
business and customers who are furious with
services that are rendered unavailable due
to insecure software......

Tell me again, how does running Windows
bring value to a company?

wink
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Support
Cylon Centurion 23rd Apr 2009
Support from Microsoft, program compatibility, Easy to use, etc...
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re: Support ???
Christian_<>< 23rd Apr 2009
Using MS Software leads to one place, lost
revenues so you are telling me that Linux
distro's cannot perform the same functions yet
in a secure fashion?

We are 100% RHEL shop and we do not have any need
for any MS Windows or other insecure software.

Windows patching breaks stuff, that is a known
fact, another FACT is Windows is still not secure
no matter what patches you throw at it. The only
people who understand Windows disaster are
hackers and virus writers.

They have put themselves in this place, insecure
virus ridden software that is NO longer needed in
the Enterprise or desktop.

The only people still clinging to this archaic
expensive, insecure and costly software from MS
are unskilled non-technical people. Real
Engineers and Programmers do not waste time
on an OS that can't survive 15 minutes facing
the public internet.

Linux distro's power the web, NSA uses SELinux,
I wonder who is paying the $9 BILLION gee I
think the companies who most likely will go
out of business do to poor decisions in
software and allowing Windows 'GUI' point
and clickers run their business into
a worm environment.

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Patching Breaks Stuff?
djmik 24th Apr 2009
"Windows patching breaks stuff" is the very atitude that helps propigate things like Conficker. I have been running WSUS and agressively applying patches to my entire enterprise for years. Nothing is brokn here, and no infections either. This is a very old assumption.
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AHEM, the REAL world...
hsec2@... 24th Apr 2009
Your quote,

"The only people still clinging to this archaic
expensive, insecure and costly software from MS
are unskilled non-technical people. Real
Engineers and Programmers do not waste time
on an OS that can't survive 15 minutes facing
the public internet."

My response,

Face the plain fact that 80% of Computer users are NON-TECHNICAL "unskilled" people. Of that 80%, a good estimate would be 60% use Windows. The remaining 20% make up your "average unskilled" Linux and MAC users.

I'm being generous in guessing that 20% of Computer users are "Engineers" or other computer technical roles. And I know that Linux or MAC is not the choice for ALL of them!

Of the 60% of "unskilled" users that use Windows (any flavor), 20% know enough to be able to take care of any problems themselves but are not "Engineers", etc.

What needs to be done, instead of this childish and immature ripping of each OS a** apart, is to EDUCATE the "unskilled" among us that have to use Windows PCs because of any number of circumstances. It only takes a few minutes to SHOW them HOW to PATCH their PCs and TEACH them about Social Engineering. A few minutes of a "techie's" time would return time SAVED in the long run.

My opinions,

Cheryl
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The real world needs real solutions.
Amelioration 24th Apr 2009
Let the dumb illiterates have their infrastructure run by dumb illiterate MS peddlers.

That's all the better for us people who actually help people to use technology, rather than just thinking that chucking budgets at IT means results.
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So you're one of the people that help users?
rtk Updated - 24th Apr 2009
But you call them dumb illiterates...

I bet people are lining up for your abuse, sorry, help.
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Can I ask?
Bozzer Updated - 26th Apr 2009
If your car breaks down, can you repair it yourself? Or are you a dumb illiterate?

If you want to build an extension on your house, are you able to construct it yourself? Or are you a dumb illiterate?

If you are ill, are you able to diagnose your ailments and perscribe the correct medicine/dosage and peform any local operations yourself, or again are you just dumb and illiterates?

How about when you go on vacation, do you check the airplane for defeats and confirm it safe to fly? Do you then jump in the cockpit and obtain clearence from ground control. Taxi down the runway, take off, navigate to your destination and be able to land it in fog, windy, or raining and in the middle of the night?

No, of course you don't, but by your logic that makes you dumb and illiterate.

You don't help people at all. How can you, being so dumb and illiterate about so many things? happy

Of course that would be mean to claim you are, I would be going down to your level. So I don't think you are. I merely think you're arrogant about a skill you have. And the real world today is built upon people specialising their skills.

So you're good at IT, doesn't mean you can berate a brain surgeon or a pilot or a builder or a mechanic claiming they are dumb and illiterate merely for not being able to use a console on Linux does it now? Personally I believe these people to offer more to society than your offensive arrogance and knowledge of linux.

And what's more I value the skills of the delivery driver and the checkout assitant far more than your ability to use root.
I would suspect that an aircraft that has been defeated would be unsafe to fly. wink

Otherwise I agree with your post.
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$9.1 billion job creation scheme
Amelioration 24th Apr 2009
So perhaps Confickers' author deserves a medal no?

Perhaps he (she?) should receive an honourary knighthood from the British establishment too no?
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Let's see....
TylerM89 Updated - 23rd Apr 2009
- Millions of applications (Games, office, communication and more) that their friends, customers, partners, etc all use.
- Easy to use (From a customer and geek standpoint. Using terminal is not easy and there is no way around that arguement)
- .Net framework allows easy and quick creation of software and tools that run on Windows (Oh and Linux/Mac).
- Support from OEMs and from the millions of other Windows users (Sure Linux has communities that help support, but it's limited).

The key point here is that people will continue to use something until more friends/family/businesses use the other product. And the benefits of Windows right now and in the future will outweigh Linux (And possibly Mac).

The other key point is that people know the more people who use a product like Linux, the more attackers will create viruses for it. See Mac Botnet. Just like when tons of people switch to bank of america, more phishing emails for BoA come out. Same applies to World of Warcraft or PayPal.

I'm all for Linux developers getting the ball rolling with making life as easy or easier on Linux than Windows. It will only push Microsoft to innovate even more. Competition is good for everyone. Prices will go down, features will go up.
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Incompetent IT people are lost revenue, yes
LiquidLearner 23rd Apr 2009
But it has nothing to do with your environment. I know incompetent Novell and Linux admins as well, although they are fewer. Although that seems to be from market share more than any inherent feature of the OS.

Myself and 2 that work for me support about 100 businesses, in the range of 1500+ workstations and, at least, 100 servers as almost everyone client has at least one. In all those PCs we have not found a single PC infected. Not one. They get malware from time to time, but none with Conficker. I can't even remember the last time I worried about a virus, those are the easiest to keep out. Social engineering is MUCH more dangerous when the person running your network knows what they are doing. For the clients that actually agree to let us take away local admin rights on their PCs, they are pretty much trouble-free. They call us for software installations and things of that nature, but rarely a problem.

So tell me again what Linux does to protect itself from social engineering? Because almost everything else is easy to keep out.
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That confuses me too
steve@... 24th Apr 2009
I have not seen or know anyone who has seen this CONficker, emphasis on CON? The last true virus I had dealings with (which caused my users a problem) was about ten years ago. Now either I am a lot cleverer than I thought or just maybe someone has created a whole security industry, making millions profit for or from not very much????
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Conficker got me
davidas@... 24th Apr 2009
I am a humble webmaster who had antivirus and firewalls in place. Thought I was current on Win updates, too, but evidently not. First sign was Nornton AV not working and firewall not comining up automatically. Couldn't get to their sites to see what was going on. Finally, one of my web sites started misbehaving. It would only work properly if the server allowed active server pages. I don't use active server pages. Turns out that the whole site had been downloaded and re-uploaded from some IP registered in a farflung part of the world (Indonesia, maybe?), presumably with a few extra lines of code. It took days to get my system straightened out, so there was certainly some personal cost to me. I assume that this was Conficker, but don't know for sure.
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That wasn't conficker...
LiquidLearner 26th Apr 2009
Most likely some type of SQL injection attack that allowed them access to your FTP site. There are tons of ways to attack web sites. Conficker isn't one of them.
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Simple
Altotus 23rd Apr 2009
It brings lots of value to MS.
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This is made up data
windozefreak 23rd Apr 2009
Did you see the use of catch words an phrases: estimated that, could cost as much as, etc, etc. Talk to me when you know for sure; othrwise its more fud than substance.
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The only people who got hit with this are those who didn't patch their machines and 99% of those people come from places where Windows piracy is in the high 90%s.

If you want to pirate something, pirate Apple software. That is 100% safe and won't get you added to a botnet. Nope. wink

If you truly want to pay $0 for an OS, use Linux, it is a fantastic OS. But... don't forget to patch it.
windoze sucks!

It sucks more than anything that's ever sucked before.
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Windows sucks eh?
wolf_z 23rd Apr 2009
You mean because this infection only hits people who TURNED OFF auto-patching and didn't manually patch?

That's why Windows sucks? Because people actually had to do something stupid to get infected--on *top* of doing whatever they did to get Conficker in the first place?

Yeah, that really sucks--for them.

Oh, and you do realize MS gives security patches to EVERYBODY, right? Even pirated copies?

So even if you didn't pay for Windows and turned on auto-patching you'd have been safe.

Seems to me it's not *Windows* that sucks...
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OK, I know why: lack of trust.

That always spells trouble. M$ really SHOULD do something about it.
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And look where it got them
Cylon Centurion 23rd Apr 2009
Infected.

Seems someone should start trusting Microsoft more. Might come in handy someday.
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So, they trust the malware writers???
windozefreak 23rd Apr 2009
Nt
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People have pondered and decided to opt for the lesser evil.
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People who autopatch weren't infected. People who were stupidly paranoid turned off autopatching and got infected.

It's interesting the North American infection rate was 4% and Europe was 18%. Guess Europeans swallowed the koolaid about patches "breaking" things, eh?

As for Asia, I guess if you pirated Windows you wouldn't want to trust MS not to disable it, hmm?

The sad part is MS even supplies security patches to pirated copies through autopatching.

Can't blame MS for this one. The patch has been available since what, November? happy
Is someone who I personally ignore. The real problem here is that corporations allow people to sell them JUNKY ASS software that breaks everytime Microsoft updates one little thing on the PC's.

Time to start telling the companies in question when that happens that either they fix this so that one update WON'T break the product in question, or we sue them to get the money back we paid them!
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Amen (nt)
LiquidLearner 23rd Apr 2009
nt
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Stupidity into art...
wcb42ad 24th Apr 2009
They mostly do so by posting such obviously super intelligent posts such as "windoze sucks" with no obvious factual evidence to support such a dazzling display of intellect. True art...if you're 13 years old that is.
"The real problem here is that corporations allow people to sell them JUNKY ASS software that breaks everytime Microsoft updates one little thing on the PC's"

You mean like .NET?
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.NET
xuniL_z 24th Apr 2009
First, most .NET development is done inhouse, not junky little commercial apps. There are some .NET business apps showing up however.

As for your cute comment, do you care to add any validity to what you say?

Any software can produce "junky" software. Do you think writing an unmanaged app in C/C++ precludes it from being a piece of garbage.

As long as the compiler and runtime provide the ability to build secure apps, it's all down to the developers. If you are seeing more bad .NET apps out there, that simply means .NET is being used at a much higher rate and not only by truely professional developers.

We run a few apps here that use JAVA and the java runtime and if I were to judge Java from these apps, I'd conclude it was not secure at ALL, and java apps are the slowest I've ever witnessed in my life.

With the JIT compiler, .NET code, programmed correctly is, without a doubt, faster than any other software out there. YOu can't make anything faster even with unmanaged C++ code.
And the .NET code can optimize itself at runtime for whatever hardware environment it is running on, which gives it even further speed advantages.


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OK, let's try again
914four 27th Apr 2009
"First, most .NET development is done inhouse, not junky little commercial apps. There are some .NET business apps showing up however."

.NET is a development environment that is used by businesses to customize and develop their own in house applications. It is so simple to use one of my colleagues once said "You could hire monkeys to use it. As a matter of fact, many people do."

"Any software can produce "junky" software. Do you think writing an unmanaged app in C/C++ precludes it from being a piece of garbage."

I agree. However it requires a little more attention to use most languages, and most development suites have some form of test for vulnerabilities. The issue with .NET is that most businesses don't know they have vulnerabilities, yet that is the route that many of them get compromised by.

"With the JIT compiler, .NET code, programmed correctly is, without a doubt, faster than any other software out there. YOu can't make anything faster even with unmanaged C++ code.
And the .NET code can optimize itself at runtime for whatever hardware environment it is running on, which gives it even further speed advantages.
"


I must respectfully disagree. Your claims here are based on your experience with Windows. Run Java on a real system, compiled on a solid platform and you will see far better performance. Oh wait, you can't actually compare, since .NET won't run on UNIX. You can run .NET any OS you chose as long as it's Windows.
Sound like vendor lock in to you? That is why Microsoft has the highest cost to exit of any vendor, including mainframe.
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Ah yes...
wcb42ad 24th Apr 2009
What a fabulous, and obviously super-intelligent, well thought out argument! You're sure to convince the masses of your intellectual superiority by posting such obviously mature insights.
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The fool does speaks
John Zern 26th Apr 2009
and you must be a fool because you actually believe no on sees you as a troll, and nothing more.

And do yourself a favor, please don't respond:

You'll only say something that'll reinforce our assesment! happy
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holy ****
dave@... 23rd Apr 2009
somebody is actualy saying the truth.... no OS is safe. OMFG... wow... if you forgot to patch and OS you are stupid... i havent had one issue with vista...
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This number seems grossly over inflated. The answer should be $0 had these people left automatic updates turned on. Now they have to pay $50 to have the pc cleaned and/or reformatted or just download a removal tool.
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Windows is a security threat
InAction Man 23rd Apr 2009
One that is about to end.

Linux RULES !!!
THAT.
To try and rebuild and do what is necessary to fix the F-35 so the terabytes of data stolen on it are countered.

And what about the U.S. power grid info hack?


U.S. military traffic control???


*N*X is NOT UP TO THE JOB of PROTECTING our COUNTRY'S DATA. GET is OUT OF THERE. ANY ROGUE NATION CAN HACK A SYSTEM THEY HAVE THE SOURCE CODE FOR.....DUUUH!! AND BY THE TIME IT'S FIXED, IT'S TOO LATE, THE DAMAGE IS DONE AND IRREVERSIBLE WITHOUT REBUILDING ALL AFFECTED PROJECTS WHICH ARE ALREADY IN THE TRILLIONS.

REPLACE *N*X WITH WINDOWS AND THIS COUNTRY CAN BE SAFE AGAIN!!! CYBERATTACKS ARE BEING MADE ON THE U.S. WITH SUCCESS DAILY. GET THAT OLD DINOSUAR CRAP OUT OF THERE AND GET SERVER 2K8 AND VISTA *IN* TO SAVE THE WORLD!!!!
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did not comprehend what you read. Because the article said 0 about replacing or scraping any systems. In fact said nothing actually compromised. Turn off faux news and buy a newspaper.
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I didn't think it was possible......
linux for me 24th Apr 2009
That ANYBODY could post something more moronic than Rockhead.

Congratulations!!!! You now have joined Rockhead for the CMIC award!
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Ok, fine, then you tell me....
xuniL_z 24th Apr 2009
what systems are guarding the F-35 project, U.S. power grid systems, air traffic control?


You telling me "Windoze" has those jobs? The NSA is the biggest user and proponent of Linux in the world and we know these systems are not "Windoze" so what are they?

Did the government spend billions to trillions in the DoD projects on *n*x and ditch it already?

OR are you saying secretary Gates is lying in his statements about these attacks? They are fabricated to scare people for sh*ts and giggles?

Knowing the military and government NEVER releases any doom and gloom information that would panic the public, and the news being as bad as it has been, can you imagine what probably really happened?
Did anyone really think software in which NATO foes have the source code was ever a good idea for national security?


Go on, are those stories reported by EVERY news agency in the world and from GATES and other U.S. officials somehow a staged lie?
You truly show your lack of intellect and independent thoughts here, mate!

"Knowing the military and government NEVER releases any doom and gloom information that would panic the public"

Hahaha, you ARE retarded.

Yeah, I can't EVER remember a time when Bush/Cheney/Rice/Powel were busy scaring the crap out of the public to gain approval for their little war in Iraq, right?

If you weren't already a huge ******* joke here on the ZDNet forums, this would have been your breakthrough!

Cheers, sucker...
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Actually the hacks...
914four 24th Apr 2009
...took place at defense contractors, which, for the most part, are Microsoft shops, or at least the two I work with are. 2K8 is more vulnerable through it's applications, mainly because of .NET. Java may have it's own weaknesses but Java on a hardened UNIX is still easier to defend than Win2k8 with .NET.
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Can you provide a link on that.
xuniL_z 24th Apr 2009
and you also believe the U.S. electrical grid data is hosted on Windows servers. Air traffic control for the Military, on Windows?
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Nice Trolling!
EarFix 28th Apr 2009
I always thought that xunil_z was a retard troll from Redmond.

Now I know...

tfosorciM_z
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That's Right Loveschlock
itanalyst2@... 23rd Apr 2009
Not having updates turned on doesn't count no matter how much it costs.

I'm so glad you think the rest of the business world is allowed a mulligan when it comes to screwing up.
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Business world?
rtk 23rd Apr 2009
I think you'll find the vast majority of infected systems are pirated xp RTM, in China and India.

The business world has had half a year to patch.
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Help Protect Windows from Conficker
Ole Man 23rd Apr 2009
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/dd452420.aspx

Systems infected with the latest version of Conficker will begin to use a new algorithm to determine what domains to contact. Microsoft has not identified any other actions scheduled to take place on April 1, 2009. It is possible that systems with the latest version of Conficker may be updated with a newer version of Conficker on April 1 by contacting domains on the new domain list. However, these systems could be updated on any date before or after April 1 as well using the "peer-to-peer" updating channel in the latest version of Conficker.

NOTICE: Trying to protect WINDOWS, NOT Linux. Wonder why? Yeah, I know! Market share, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, etc etc etc
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I have to agree. Real Cost: $0
Lerianis 23rd Apr 2009
To people who are smart like me and NEVER, EVER turn off automatic updates. Heck, I run a program from Microsoft that looks for patches that aren't installed or didn't install correctly on my home PC's every now and again (no, not Windows Update) just to be safe.
Good day to confirm this comment I would appreciate T h e b e s t o f Z D N e t d e l i v e r e d your website very nice to everyone Yes, Oracle is the only one with shared-disk architecture, but that is there advantage. It means you can add or remove nodes and the database lives on. In a shared nothing architecture, if you lose a node, you lose the system. I'm sure Oracle appreciates EMC highlighting their advantage.I also desire to signal in your RSS feeds. Thank you as soon as once again and maintain up the great operate Awesome post! Thank you very much || thanks for nice content this is really benefit to me.

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