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Wikipedia needs to stop begging for donations and start implementing ads

By | November 11, 2011, 5:00am PST

Summary: I think it’s time for Wikipedia to stop existing solely on donations and embrace an ad-based model of monetization for sustainability. Here’s why.

All over it like a hobo on a ham sandwich!

I don’t know about you, but I love Wikipedia. Contrary to the worn-out criticism that nothing on Wikipedia is accurate or worth quoting, I find that it’s quite often a great resource for information on topics I’m interested in researching — or, at least, it often provides an accurate, easily-digestible summary of a topic prior to deeper research elsewhere, if needed. As the years pass by and Wikipedia presses on, I’ve noticed a few constants:

1 - The quality and credibility of their content continues to increase.
2 - They are continually one of the most trafficked sites on the Internet.
3 - Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, appeals for donations instead of just implementing ads to support server and staff costs.

The first two are great, but the third is really beginning to wear me thin. And to be honest, his face is starting to become more annoying to me than those old smiley ads that, when hovered over, said “SAY SOMETHING! WAAAT?”. The reason for that is because every time I see his face pop up at the top of Wikipedia, I can almost guarantee it’s there to ask me for money — much like an ad, but more like a hobo who washes your windshield at a red light in hopes for some spare change so they can keep on doing what they do.

For example, here’s what I currently see at the top of Wikipedia:

And here’s his appeal in full, which I will use to base my points on below:

Google might have close to a million servers. Yahoo has something like 13,000 staff. We have 400 servers and 73 staff. Wikipedia is the #5 site on the web and serves 454 million different people every month – with billions of page views.

Commerce is fine. Advertising is not evil. But it doesn’t belong here. Not in Wikipedia.

Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the mind. It is a place we can all go to think, to learn, to share our knowledge with others.

When I founded Wikipedia, I could have made it into a for-profit company with advertising banners, but I decided to do something different. We’ve worked hard over the years to keep it lean and tight. We fulfill our mission, and leave waste to others.

If everyone reading this donated $20, we would only have to fundraise for one day a year. But not everyone can or will donate. And that’s fine. Each year just enough people decide to give.

This year, please consider making a donation of $5, $20, $50 or whatever you can to protect and sustain Wikipedia.

Thanks,
Jimmy Wales
Wikipedia Founder

That sounds awesome, right? I mean, surely, anyone looking to do everything they can to not implement ads that might annoy users is to be commended, right? Well, not that it’s not commendable, but I think his aversion to ads is an extremely misplaced endeavor now, what with the state of monetization and the very real cost of running a popular site on the Internet in 2011 (and, soon, 2012).

As such, the non-profit “free encyclopedia,” as Wikipedia is sub-titled, is only really free to the people who don’t donate. It costs money to operate, and without money to support it, it could be the non-existent encyclopedia. But the way I see it is that there’s nothing wrong with making money for providing a useful service. I get it that he wants to be a non-profit who harbors a site where people can freely access information, but Wikipedia can still be all that even with ads.

Above, he states their desire to keep Wikipedia “lean and tight,” but a site can still be that with ads as well. All they needs is the right person to come on board and discuss options for ad placement, ad sizes, etc. A/B testing would be a cinch with as many pages and visitors as they have, and it’s not like people would stop using Wikipedia if ads were implemented, because Wikipedia is of value to millions of people, daily. Sure, if ads were implemented, I’m fairly confident we would see a vocal few writing sensationalistic posts like “The Death of Wikipedia,” but that would be a short-lived venture and, in my humble opinion, completely inaccurate.

Would it take Wikipedia falling into dire straits before they implemented ads, or would Mr. Wales let the ship sink? I mean, it just seems ridiculous to me that he’s so adamant about not implementing ads. They don’t have to be pop-ups or pop-behinds or bright, seizure-inducing flashy ads or whatever else. The ad environment can be policed, controlled, clean, and facile for users. They could even be rolled out with extremely small, perhaps text-based ads to start with. You don’t have to jump in with both feet right off the bat. There is so much flexibility with ads these days, it’s crazy to continue writing them off.

Now, I understand that implementing ads would shift the direction of Wikipedia away from the ad-less one they’ve been heading in from day-one — as well as whatever that would imply for them as a non-profit organization — but monies gathered via ads could be used not only for sustaining running costs, but other noble facets as well… like donations! Hey, imagine Wikipedia doling out the donations instead of asking for them!

As for the people who would want to keep using Wikipedia without seeing ads, here’s the deal: if someone doesn’t want to see ads that badly, then they most likely already have Firefox with the Adblock Plus extension installed. And if it’s a matter of not wanting to show ads to specific people/regions, then you can control that as well! Display ads to just the top-3 richest cities in America if you want.

But the real kicker to this is that Wikipedia wouldn’t use something like Google AdSense to monetize, no. They wouldn’t have to, because companies would practically trip over each other to have their ads displayed to 454 million people every month! They could have companies bid, much like advertising on Google; pay them a set fee to display X number of ads on X pages; implement an ad network that’s like AdSense, or something else altogether.

[RELATED: Make money online, part 1: Introduction to Google AdSense]

Lastly, I would like to address the following statement: “Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the mind. It is a place we can all go to think, to learn, to share our knowledge with others.”

You know… while Wikipedia is certainly something special, it’s not so special that it can’t be easily replicated by someone who could do it better and make a killing doing so. If Wikipedia fails to meet its monetary requirements, then the idea of Wikipedia and the information therein is all out there, just waiting for someone else to come along and do it all again in a different, more easily sustainable manner.

Overall, I’m not asking Wikipedia to stop accepting donations. By all means, keep the donations flowing. But at this rate, as a frequent Wikipedia user, I would very much appreciate the consideration of alternate monetization models. Maybe it’s not a big deal to others, but I’d like to see Wikipedia move from a needy entity to one that’s able to sustain itself primarily through means that ask nothing of its users. Naturally, no one’s visiting Wikipedia to see or click an ad, but if your ads present something that’s relevant to the content of a page and potentially enriching for the life of the viewer of that page in some way, then you’re simply providing added value to their experience.

I have plenty more I would like to say on this matter so as to shore up the many loose ends that exist from my points above, as well as to mention other methods of monetization they could try, but I don’t want to get too much more long-winded than I’ve already been. With that in mind, I’m curious to see what you fine readers have to say on the subject.

Would you mind an ad-implemented Wikipedia or do you think things should stay as they are? Share your thoughts in the comments section below!

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-Stephen Chapman

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RE: Wikipedia needs to stop begging for donations and start implementing ads
zbrkic@... 20th Dec
Implement ads and add link to the adblocker happy is the stupidest idea ever! Beg for money, steal if necessary, but don't turn this site in yet another excuse for the marketing... And no, I don't think hiring is bad and firing is good. My 5$ given at free will is something I won't regret. Ever.
Excuse me, but this is a stupid idea IMO. There is already far too many ads everywhere else on the net. I don't want ads in wikipedia.
@atari_z: ... them something.

This way you will never be annoyed either by these appeals nor, even worse, by advertisements.

Just pay them something each year.
When you start relying on ads for funding you start down a road that ends with a compromising of the editorial neutrality of your site.

Wikipedia is a (inter)national treasure, as such what it needs is an endowment, not ad based revenue.
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100% agree.
Bruizer 11th Nov
@dsf3g

I don't find advertising evil, but it is very annoying, intrusive and puts limits on your objectivity. For an encyclopedia, OK, it is wrong if not evil.

I donate a couple times/year but I like the idea of an endowment.
@Bruizer

Those donations ought to be going towards an endowment, not current expenses.
Who would heavy sponsors be? Oil companies, of course. Maybe cigarette companies! Mexican mafiosos? Putin, Iran, Syria, Israel. The Dems, the GOP. Propaganda + information -- a potent mix; I'm not sure I'd like to see it.
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I'm far more worried about the "editorial neutrality" of a site that has to rely on The Tides Foundation and Peter Lewis for money, than one that has a broad base of advertisers, no one of which is big enough to dictate anything.
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I agree...
wright_is 11th Nov
with dsf3g and atari_z, but not with the article.

I don't like JW's face appearing on the site, but it is better than ads. And at least he isn't as anywhere near as bad as Richard Stallman.
It's not about /seeing/ the ads, it's about /having/ them. Paid advertising has been consistently rejected by the Wikipedia community because it would bring an inherent conflict with the project's mission, and also because it would risk giving the impression of conflict of interest. We would also have nightmares trying to deal with firms that pay for advertising only to find that the content is not to their best advantage (e.g. if Boiron advertised how would they feel about the fact that we reflect the scientific consensus that homeopathy is abject nonsense? How would scientists and doctors feel if the anti-vaccination movement advertised on medical articles?).

We have enough trouble with SEOs and marketing departments trying to use Wikipedia to boost their image as it is. We seriously do not need the additional complication of advertising.
@Guy Chapman

I completely understand that and trust me, the whole SEO/marketing department thing... I can only imagine how much of a headache that is. But the advertising woes you bring up could certainly be thought through. I understand that Wikipedia seeks to champion the truth and I like your point about bogus ads, but there are plenty of solutions for that issue.

As long as the donations are working well, there's obviously no reason to change, but I just get tired of Jimmy's pleas making it seem like Wikipedia is hanging by its last thread. That's why I was prompted to write this, and I know my opinion won't be shared with the majority of others, and that's fine. But in dire straits operation, which is what it always seems to me like the condition that Wikipedia is on the cusp of existing under, monetization should be the last thing Wikipedia needs to worry about with the plethora of options available through advertising (and not necessarily via traditional avenues which cause the issues you've stated).

Thanks for taking the time to respond! I appreciate it.

-Stephen
@StephenChapman

And could then sell ads that target specific pages and content rather than general ad banners. It wouldn't bother me so much, and if it was done right the ads could actually be useful. The problem is they may spend any money they would make off of ads on building the ad platform.
@StephenChapman The technical issues could possibly be thought through but the philosophical ones remain, and the Wikipedia community is very solidly behind those philosophical reasons.

There really isn't a way of putting ads on Wikipedia without giving at least the impression of compromising editorial neutrality. Also, every word in Wikipedia is donated free of charge. There is a substantial segment of the community who believe that this spirit of free contribution would be weakened if there were advertisements. It's not just that the community believes you should not be able to buy your way into Wikipedia (though we certainly do believe that), it's more that advertising is about making money for the advertiser, that is its entire purpose, and most of us don't feel motivated to work for someone else's profit.

Advertising would feel like a corporate takeover.
@Guy Chapman - quite. The minute Wikipedia implement ads, questions will be rightly raised as to why volunteers are maintaining the content "cash cow" for free. "Not for profit" changes nothing - Fact: profit is whatever you want it to be; money in minus your choice of expenses + salaries (see many household name "charities").

I'd love to know how they are splashing out on 73 full time members of staff for an unadvertised, community maintained site - albeit a mega popular one - that rarely changes its design or systems! Do you really need a 73 strong staff to maintain a bunch of servers?

Plus as others raise - there *will* be immediate conflict of interest - the editors are not going to tolerate critical entries on the pages about particular corporates that are major sponsors. If topic targeted ads are supported - as they almost certainly would be - then you also would face new barriers to adding criticism of key sponsors linked to those areas. Tobacco being an immediate prime example, of many.

I agree the plead ads are annoying, not helped by Jimmy's fame hungry mug. But so long as they're suppressible (I presume this is the case - is there a "don't show this again" button?), they're the lesser of evils. I'd argue if sponsorship isn't covering the costs of a community run site, they're doing it wrong.
@Psdie - Frankly, when I joined the staff at the Wikimedia Foundation, we were hovering around 30 staff members, and I was shocked at how small it is. With 73, I'm still shocked. Compare the staffing numbers to any other top-100 website and it's clear we're extremely low-staff.

The Foundation has a community liaison, Maggie, who writes periodic responses to questions like yours, and posts them to our website. You can read the "What do Foundation staff do" answer at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Answers#Foundation:_How_many_employees_does_Wikimedia_have.2C_and_what_do_they_do.3F.

I should also address the "fame hungry" accusation. Last year, I ran the annual giving campaign and made the decision to switch to graphical banner treatments. I believed it was right then, and it's still right now. It increased fundraising - more than doubling the productivity of those banners, which means a shorter fundraiser and less annoyance for everyone. Jimmy resisted using his image. He argued and fought, and in the end, we had to take him a series of tests showing that we tried just about everything else and couldn't beat the ads with his face on it. Calling him fame-hungry is incorrect.

Philippe Beaudette
Head of Reader Relations
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
@philippebeaudette - thanks for your considered reply. I stand corrected RE use of Jimmy's grin, thank you wink

I see from the link you give that the number of staff has increased again and now stands at "95 and a number of independent contractors" (i.e., well over 100 I should imagine). I stand by my viewpoint that that's an excessive number of staff for a knowledgebase where 100% of the content is created and maintained by the community, using FOSS MediaWiki software!

Think about it for a minute: you have an entire "Community" fund raising department, plus developers dedicated to the "Donor platform". If that doesn't hint at a wider bloat issue, I'm not sure what does! happy

Of course, job creation in itself isn't a bad thing, provided it's not creating a donations short fall problem. However, I assume there *is* a funding problem going by the use of large graphic banners rather than more subtle solicitations. If that shortfall ultimately means you start considering commercial activities in the future such as sponsorship (not that this is necessarily the case), I'd suggest Wikipedia considers whether the expansion in job numbers is actually yielding proportionate improvements to the service, or if there's an element of bloat.

Just to reaffirm though - thank you to the Wikipedia community for one of the greatest assets on the web. I have no bones with those that volunteer their time in support of the shared ideal.
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It's worked so far
mikeken763 11th Nov
So leave it alone eh? Seriously they make enough in donations so it is fine. Don't fix something that is not broken.
@mikeken763 Is it? Is it working? Are the donations bringing in enough? The ads seem to be getting bigger every time :/.
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like nature preserves need toxic waste
Stephen Fawkes 11th Nov
This'd never work. After a mass revolt of editors, the site would quickly degrade in quality and the Internet would break. Ads suck. Write about something real like how the Protect IP Act will affect SEO optimization or whatever it is you people peddle.
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KEEP THE DAMN ADS OFF WIKIPEDIA!
JOB83 Updated - 11th Nov
Its commitment against ads is one of the reasons I view Wikipedia as an honourable endeavour to avail information to the world. Seeing JW's face may become a little too much after a while, but it's only for a month or so per year, and far better than having a year full of ads displayed. I like its clean interface and it helps me to focus on the information written.

Besides, it's plea for donation is the most effective ad I've seen so far. It is a strong reminder of the importance of helping the organization which we all love. Even though the donation pleas may become a little overbearing, I will happily put up with what is basically an effort for a worthy not-for-profit mission.
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Joe_Raby 11th Nov
I'd rather see the face of a real person at the top of the site than the line "Wikipedia, sponsored by BP Petroleum" and related ads, like if you look up an article on Cuba, a US Army ad shows up on the side.

Wasteful, annoying ads were the most complained-about feature of print media before it fell to the wayside.

@Stephen: Your sentiment is why there is a large influx of RSS and web reader programs available now that strip out the garbage from what people actually want to use the Internet for: content. The Internet was not meant to be delivery channel for ads, but profiteers would quickly push all of the content into a pidgeon hole and waste as much bandwidth as possible if it meant that they could make a fast buck. Would you want a big headline at the top of this page saying "Stephen Chapman, SEO Whistleblower, presented by Google"?
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Here's my take.
StephenChapman 11th Nov
@Joe_Raby Actually, I wouldn't mind such a headline at all! I think it's important to understand the difference between pushing meaningless, network-based ads and serving quality ads from entities with a relationship or vested interest, ultimately allowing a site to continue bringing its content to the masses.

How do you propose the Internet sustains its vast wealth of content without ads as a monetization avenue for publishers, content creators, and similar bodies? Where's the money going to come from to support the people who create the work that RSS/Web reader programs strip ads away from? For Wikipedia, it's donations. That's great, but donations just aren't enough to cut it for most.

Personally, I think it's unfortunate that so many people don't understand what an ad ecosystem can provide, and how it can be much more than simply garbage ads. And I mean that from the perspective of a reader *and* a publisher.

People hate ads, that's not new. But like it or not, they allow people to make money for taking the time to create content others enjoy for free. And really, I don't understand why so many people still complain about ads when there are so many ways to not have to see or deal with them 99% of the time.

Yes, as a reader, I want content. I'm not there to read an ad. But all the same, I understand why it's necessary for the content creator so that they can keep creating the content I want to read from them. It's one thing if a site tries to bombard you with pop-up ads, roadblock ads, etc. But it's another when the ads are really of no consequence to the reader.

Naturally, that's just my personal opinion, and it's not a very popular one, let me tell you. happy

-Stephen
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I don't think you get it
Joe_Raby 11th Nov
@Stephen:

The point with ads is that a person reads and/or clicks on them. Without the eyeballs or clickthroughs, the ad is meaningless, and advertisers will pull their support. Do you think advertisers post ads and pay you for clickthroughs just from the good of their heart?

So on one hand, you'd like ads to pay for your bills, but you don't care if people look at them or click on them. Hmm....so if you get paid based on a predicted click-through rate, why would you advocate against them? Seems like you're giving advertisers the shaft. After all, you use lines like "there are so many ways to not have to see or deal with them 99% of the time" and "of no consequence to the reader". Talk about having your cake and eating it too.

Do the advertisers that pay for ad space on CBS Interactive appreciate your opinions?
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Straw men and red herrings abound.
StephenChapman 11th Nov
@Joe_Raby Since you ignored about 99% of what I wrote, just so you could set up your straw man rebuttle, I'll simply say this: I'm a proponent of ads. Obviously. I mean, I just wrote an entire pro-ad post and my first reply to you was in full support of an ad-based monetization model. How you managed to take that one sentence of mine and distort it as much as you did is amazing to me.

Then, to top it off, you try to bury me with an insanely inappropriate jab about CBSi advertisers and my opinions -- as if I've said anything to actually deserve a comment like that.

And come to think of it, now that I look you up in Google, I remember you now! Your M.O. is to avoid good points made by people you debate with and cherry pick from their responses so you can keep on the path of red herrings and straw men arguments in attempts to keep debates tilted in your favor. Logical fallacies for self-percieved infallible minds! Gotta love it.

Hey, have a great weekend, sir!

-Stephen
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Hey, they're your quotes
Joe_Raby Updated - 11th Nov
@Stephen:

Just to summarize your argument:

You said in your post that you are a proponent of ads, and that ads pay for services.

Yet in your first response to me, you say that you don't care if users look at them or if they have any impact, and you take the position of a content consumer in this respect.

How is that even a logical argument??? The people that pay for advertising on CBS don't want to hear an opinion like yours. What they like to hear is that users actually view the ads, click on them, and find their services valid. The problem is, as you've actually pointed out, is that it's a fallacy to think that consumers actually want ads bundled with their content. I made a statement about print media, and I stand by that. Some people (bloggers mostly) say that people get more news on the Internet, but the statistics don't prove that at all. What has happened is that more and more newspapers are going to ad models and less and less people are reading them while more customers are complaining about the ads. That's not a coincidence.

BTW: Just to note: Unlike you did to me, I only attacked your argument, not your character. I didn't go "looking you up on Google" just to try to discredit you - you did that yourself. In fact, if you're implying that I troll the Internet, you're just going to make yourself look like a fool, since you won't find me on social networking sites and I only use my full name on ZDnet.

What I did was make you, someone that proposed that ads are the answer to saving a website, to admit that even you, as a consumer, don't care about ads. If you can admit that even without realizing it, then mine, and several others comments are validated.
??? Commercializing/monetizing Wiki would make the most sense. I was just searching on this to see what I found and lo and behold an article almost summarizing my thoughts. This would likely be a multi billion dollar company if it commercialized. It would rival the growth of Google and Amazon to name a few. It is almost criminal not to pursue this. Just because the sanctity of what the founder believes is like a library comes into question. Come on come to the realization that an introduction of money can help. Why do libraries have to be sources of non commercialization? Books are advertisings themselves. Public transit is another item that seems anathema to advertising well imagine having your maintenance fees covered by advertising revenue and your growth could be driven through revenues from ridership. Public transit would explode. not the snails pace currently seen in most cities.
Please think...
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Really bad idea
jharris@... 11th Nov
Most web sites with ads are so ugly that I won't read them. I prefer donating to Wikipedia once a year.
OK, I look at this two way:
1) look at Consumer Reports. AD free which suppose to keep them impartial, but no one is impartial so their editors bias still spill over into the articles. Not unlike wiki today minus the subscriptions.
2) PBS. THEY HAVE ADS. Just at the beginning and end of their shows. Since the shows have sponsers, I think they are a little BIAS. Don't get me going about their begathons. For these reason I stop giving them money. WIKI DO NOT GO HERE!!!

So the simple solution, is to charge a subscription similiar to consumer reports.
*hit not sure if that is so good....
@davidmpaul Frankly, I don't think the wikipedia is unbiased. Especially not when it comes to the articles about controversial issues.
Great idea! Ads aren't intrusive and Wikipedia has a huge reader base.

Unfortunately the point I got from this is Wikipedia as an open sourced plus founder management structure which is pity, although 1. showing the indomitable strength of open sourced management, and 2. the sad results of a founder who doesn't know what he doesn't know, or even any limits.
Thank you, Stephen, for an incredible lesson.
The Jimmy Wales appeal is an ad. So why not have a McDonalds ad instead of a Jimmy Wales appeal ad?
I would reather see an ad than begging.
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Forget whether ads are right or wrong for Wikipedia. Can we at least pause for a moment and say "Gee, Jimmy Wales (and crew) did one of the smartest things ON THE ENTIRE PLANET" in getting Wikipedia going. Despite a lack of funds. Despite all the nay-sayers and would-be commercial competitors.

Can we consider that someone who has, overall, been so smart for so long, might ACTUALLY BE RIGHT?

It's fine to question the ad-less approach. But, Stephen, can you at least admit the potential hubris in YOU castigating Jimmy?
If its the difference between going under and staying online, then taking ads would be the lesser of two evils but until that time, I think it would be better to stick to donations. Perhaps splitting the difference and having a link to corporate sponsor page as opposed to advertisements. Corporations could contribute and still get some good PR but no one gets assaulted with ads and the fast food burger joint won't have to deal with the fall out of their ad juxtaposed over the entry for heart disease.
I like the idea of having an endowment. Educational foundations could contribute as well as individuals.
When large advertisers sponsor anything, they usually want something in return, far more than just ads. Much like hardware reviews, the sponsor wants content that is favorable towards what they sell, or they will threaten to pull the sponsorship. I'm sorry, but a website that is for information purposes does not need to be pressured or influenced by sponsors. Freedom has a cost. You can either pay the cost, or give up the freedom.
As others have pointed out, it's not about annoying people with ads. It's about neutrality and the *appearance* of neutrality. Every single article/ad combination would need to be reviewed to consider this issue.

Keyword advertising is out of the question. Anybody who has ever run (say) a discussion board that has any sort of position on an issue has encountered this. One popular skeptics board that debunks the paranormal had to deal with the backlash regarding ads for psychic hotlines appearing in threads debunking the very thing being advertised. It took a lot of work to block certain advertisers and it's an ongoing process. Wiki would need to deal with similar issues as well as people stuffing keywords into articles in an attempt to generate ad impressions. Simply put, it is a horrible idea to have an open system for generating content tied to an advertising system based on that content.

Another option is to limit it to selected advertisers. For example, maybe Mercedes Benz becomes an advertiser. Every single article that references the company would have to be excluded from displaying their ads. Their fingers are in so many pots this would be nearly an impossible task. They have, for example, a factory presence in Egpypt. We all know Egypt is involved in controversial issues, and Mercedes has a vested interest in their stability. It simply wouldn't look right for their ads to appear next to articles regarding Egypt.

Simply put, advertising is a bad idea, and it has nothing to do with annoying people and everything to do with being a reliable source of information.
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No Ads
sboverie 11th Nov
I hate having to deal with ads. If Wikipedia had 2 choices of either selling ads or using a subscription based service, then I would be happy to pay for a subscription.

Ads have become too much a part of life that we forget how annoying they are until you find yourself in a place with fewer or no ads. I don't need any ads to tell me what I want to buy or how to think or nag me into submission. I really hate spending money to see a movie and having to endure ads before I can see the movie and this is also spreading to DVD movies.
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You don't want to see Jimmy Wales? Just click the corner of the banner and make him go away. Fund solicitation on WP is less intrusive than NPR or PBS, by a large measure. And with no advertisers, there is no issue with advertisers attempting to exert influence upon content.

WP has discovered that lots of little donations stack up better than chasing around big foundations for grants -- and it is truer to the spirit of the project as well, which involves tens of thousands of people collaborating globally.

No sale on the idea to sell ads!
"I don???t know about you, but I love Wikipedia."

Meh, they're nice for occasional lookups, but pretty crappy otherwise. Wouldn't rely on them for serious information.
Sorry to be blunt, but is it too much to ask that you make a slight effort at research before publishing a blog post like this? You might be surprised to learn that your are not the first to think of this idea; the deliberations about running ads on Wikipedia are well documented and easy to find. You also might be interested to learn just how heavily A/B testing is already used in Wikipedia's current revenue model.
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Try the PBS methodology
databaseben Updated - 12th Nov
Ads are/were a big issue for PBS as well, because the corporations would eventually control the content via the advertising dollars. For example, Sesame Street would be sponsored and overwhelmed by ads from the toy and cereal manufacturers. And Frontline could not do expose's on corporate greed.

Perhaps, Wikipedia should try the methodology PBS instituted. I don't think running the wiki site is as costly as running PBS. So it wouldn't need those annoying quarterly fund raisers.
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Keep Wikipedia ad free!
ScorpioBlue Updated - 13th Nov
I'm disgusted and revolted by the suggestion that Wikipedia take on ads. I'd rather see no Wikipedia if they did that rather than become wh0res for the almighty buck.

Don't you have any shame? Aren't there some things out there greater than profit or greed? Does everything out there have to be commercially driven?

And on a parallel note, if you really believe websites will have to switch to pay sites in order to make up for lost ad revenue, then I have a bridge to sell you because guess what? You'll be seeing ads in their sites once you pay their subscription! In other words, you'll be paying for their ads! And you'll be a dumb_ass for doing it.

Suckers!
Look at the photograph at the top of this web page, Stephen Chapman. I think I know whose picture I would prefer to be at the top of my web page. Only joking Stephen.
The message is clear, hands off Wikipedia.
Mickmac93
Stephen, you???re all wet on this one. Wikipedia is surely as important to the world as say, Consumer Reports, which somehow finds a way to survive without compromising by taking ads. Or look at public radio. If there is value to the content, there has to be a formula for sustainability. But at its core, Wikipedia has to be free to those who need it to be free, and completely independent of any corporate underwriting in the form of advertising. I???m not sure pleas for support are all that bad ??? that may be what works for Wikipedia. But paid advertising? No way.

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Cameron NJ 16th Nov
Personally I like the way the Wikipedia staff is doing it now and don't want it to change. I don't consider it "begging for cash" - it just makes more sense in my personal opinion to not cloud up an Encyclopedia site with ads and I think I would use it less if they were there. Sure you could use Firefox with Ad Blocker or something similar (who doesn't?) but isn't that a pretty key sign that users hate it. If his occasional face and message bothers users - I can't imagine how much more actual ads would irritate the users. I'm guessing the bulk of your argument is more money for the company and changing their model to for profit? I don't see any real issues with content (since as you said the model is user policed).. and that would break what Wikipedia -is- wouldn't it? I'm not being sensational, I wouldn't and rarely post, but I would probably quit using it. In fact, this is the exact reason I pay for and use Netflix only and don't watch Hulu. Advertising and greed irritate me enough on the web already - please don't add to it.
"Begging". Who's begging ? Raising money through donations and crowd funding (eg. Kickstarter) is well used elsewhere and not seen as begging. Using advertising would actually put WP in possible future danger due to the vagaries of the Capitalist system. One only has to look at current affairs to see how quickly "safe" economic models can crash when tied to the wheeling and dealing of the investors. In fact it is WP and other projects like it that have shown that they are MORE stable than the "selfish model" economics that were seen as the "only" system. New economic systems based on collaboration and sharing are becoming the new de facto standard. They have been and are being proven. Very far from being unstable or untested. See http://djbarney.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/momentous-times-wall-street-dinos-run-on-a-200-year-old-outdated-model/
Wikipedia is implementing ads, but in a somewhat unusual manner.
Search Google for "wikipedia". Scroll down to the bottom of SERP. Behold the "Donate to Wikipedia" ad.
We definitely need wikipedia. We do not need ads.
I donated some money and would urge everybody to do so. Wiki is definitely a treasure and i think it gives us more and will continue to help our children as they grow up and satisfy their hunger for knowledge.
@Psdie, you come off as an egotistic childish adult who just can't stand to lose in an internet argument as compared to the mature and sound reply given by Philippe Beaudette.

First, her reply has already succinctly addressed the issue of 'fame hungry'.
Second, if you think that 100 staff is 'excessive' and 'bloated' to manage a portal with traffic and content as huge as wikipedia, then you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Just take a sec to think about all the work required - security management, purchase of resources, database, supervision and management of all these work etc...

If it's as simple to run wikipedia as what you think, we would have seen dozen of web portals of similar scale and size out there. Or even better, try setting up one yourself and hopefully you will realize the scope of work required.
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cmakrekwe3801-24379060681576133022911271929798 25th Nov
quwsdm,urnymisb17, kpejs.
Implement ads and add link to the adblocker happy is the stupidest idea ever! Beg for money, steal if necessary, but don't turn this site in yet another excuse for the marketing... And no, I don't think hiring is bad and firing is good. My 5$ given at free will is something I won't regret. Ever.

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