Silverlight 1.0 debuts and supports Linux to boot

Silverlight 1.0 debuts and supports Linux to boot

Summary: It's finally here. Andy Plesser got the jump on the news that Silverlight 1.


It's finally here. Andy Plesser got the jump on the news that Silverlight 1.0, Microsoft's rival to Flash, is officially out in the wild. The announcement also came with the welcome news that Microsoft will be supporting Moonlight, the Linux implementation as part of the Novell partnership the two companies signed earlier this year. Finally, they have some really cool partners including Entertainment Weekly and the WWE (which is awesome).

So it begins. I work for Adobe, but this is nothing but good news for the RIA world. Silverlight 1.0 has always been primarily a video initiative and the partners show that. But now that it's actually released, we can start comparing real products and what people are doing with them. I think the announcement of Silverlight helped speed Adobe in the direction of H.264 support which is going to be great for customers. The fact that we have two smart, established companies pushing the limits of video on the web is decidedly a good thing and the Linux support on both ends of the table is absolutely phenomenal. I hope Linux fans feel like they're being given a real stake in the future of RIAs. This is going to mean more developers are going to be looking at RIA technologies and hopefully it will make the whole ecosystem grow.

It's going to be a fun few months/year. I think Silverlight 1.1 is the release that a lot of people are looking forward to because it supports the Common Language Runtime and enables you to write .NET rich internet applications in the browser. I'm pretty sure the ultimate comparisons are going to be made between Flash and Silverlight 1.1 because the programming models and performance are more on par than what Silverlight 1.0 offers right now. But having 1.0 released is a huge milestone and it will start the adoption train moving. Here's to better video on the web and the furthering of RIAs.

More info:
Sean Alexander
Miguel on the Novell/Microsoft collaboration
Read/WriteWeb Scott Guthrie

Topics: Linux, Microsoft, Open Source, Software Development

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  • Microsoft shift on the Linux front

    I think that the most interesting part of this article is that Microsoft is including Linux support within its product. This support may be limited, but it is clear that it represents a realisation that Linux on the desktop is a force to be recognised.
    This shows that Microsoft can no longer claim that Linux is an irrelevance to be ignored.
    • Yes they can

      [i]Microsoft can no longer claim that Linux is an irrelevance to be ignored.[/i]

      Were you just born yesterday. M$ absolutely has the power. With a stroke of the pen, Silverlight support for Linux is gone. Now when thousands of Linux users can no long watch web clips, then there only alternative is, you guessed it, Windows. It is only supported now because they want to give the appearance that it is open so that web creators will use the technology as opposed to Flash. Once it is king, then look out.
    • Well, for their partners anyhow.

      From what I read this is with Novell.
  • Linux support only temporary

    Just like Media Player and IE for Mac, once Silverlight is well adopted they will suddenly pull the rug out and either cripple support, only the Windows version will have the high end features, or simple kill it for all platforms sans Windows.
    • You zealots are unbelievable!!

      First it was [i]Microsoft only makes products that work with Windows[/i], even going so far as to suggest that ASP.NET pages could only ever work with IE clients. I guess when ASP.NET returns a <p> tag, it is somehow different than when PHP returns a <p> tag?

      Next it was [i]Microsoft releases insufficient documentation and will probably sue anyone who uses their documentation to make a competing product[/i].

      Now, when Microsoft publicly states that it is supporting a Linux release of one of its products, you guys come up with [i]Microsoft will probably pull support for it at some point in the future[/i]. Sure, I guess they could, anything is possible but you make the whole Linux community (of which I'm a member thank you very much) look like raving lunatics when you write such tripe. Apple could add some firmware to the iPod to make it work [b]only[/b] with iTunes on OSX. Not likely but hey, it [b]could[/b] happen, right?
      • Easy there - you forgot your medication again didn't you...

      • Never happy

        You Linux people are never happy. By rights, MS/Adobe shouldn't bother releasing for Linux at all. 5% of the OS market, please! I wouldn't mind, but half of that install base sits in a room somewhere and crunches numbers.

        • Well said.. why abuse microsoft?

          The linux install base is fragmented and quite small.. but make sooo much noise.. all bad..

          If you aren't interested in Windows.. why bother commenting on it? I don't frequent linux groups anymore, I have tried it several times over the years and I await the day that one distro wins the race and gets the majority of development behind it.. like that's going to happen..

          I don't skulk round the linux groups abusing the people using linux.. I don't feel the need.. I wonder why linux users often do? Get a life people.. use whatever operating system works for you.. and leave the rest of us alone.. I don't mind advice but I won't accept emotive tripe.. which seems ot be all we ever get from Linux Heads..

          • The proverb ...

            Barking dogs never bite. Sorry to say that about Linux but nothing is much better than this. Forget biting, Linux doesn't have teeth in first place.

            I fully agree with Malcolm. I work on windows, do windows development and interoperate with Unix / Linsux at all the possile and permitted levels. But never in my life did I require to crib about somethings missing in *nix *sux platforms nor those in Windows.

            Its time the Linsux community became mature. Don't cry like children in kindergarten. Grow up folks ...

          • Bite?

            I do not disagree that we could do without the barking and crying, but I am not sure that your observation about Linux having no 'bite', or event teeth, is at all valid. I work on four workstations (three desktops and a laptop, and only one is windows. I run or work on servers for around 60 clients, and the overwhelming majority run Linux. My company no longer recommends any other platform at the server level, though we still support Windows, HP-UX, Solaris, AIX, and Tru64Unix where clients require. We are looking at a trend that indicates that within a decade we will not need to support any other OS at the server level, and only Windows and Linux a the desktop. If we can clear some legacy software issues, we may be able to replace windows desktop support with Linux desktop support within that time.

            We have no political issue with either, and are critical of neither, our applications simply run better, more efficiently, and more reliably on Linux.

            I would call those teeth!
    • Ummm me thinks you are wrong...

      • Nope seen it before

        and just like a tiger can't change its stripes, M$ intention here are crystal clear. Push your product as standard, get everyone to use it, then make it a Windows only product, thus ensuring your monopoly.
    • Media Player and MSIE for Mac were crippled to begin with...<nt>


      1) Microsoft isn't doing the plug-in, Novell and the Mono Project is so if it goes away, you can blame Novell and The Mono project (which has been around for a LONG TIME now and seems to be the Mark Twain of it's generation).

      Realize that 1.1 supports WMV (all the codecs plus VC-1) and DRM support, so at long last Linux users will be at some level of Media Parity. That's a win big for Linux. It's amazing that some users don't appreciate that.

      Windows isn't ever going to kill every other platform especially open source (the people using it won't let it happen anyway), so why worry about such idle speculation and just enjoy this stuff when it comes out..
  • Does 1.1 support 1.0???

    I've already seen web sites written for 1.0 that don't work when 1.1 is loaded. And MS wants to control document standards, but they can't even control their own standards! sickening.
    • Version 1.1 is not officially released yet

      Version 1.1 of Silverlight is not yet officially released. Meaning you were using a beta version of 1.1. When 1.1 is released officially, it will support backwards compatibility to 1.0.
      • Backwards Compatibility

        The alpha already does, and the final 1.1 version is supposed to offer the following improvements:

        Layout Controls: Button, TextBox, Scrollbar, Slider, ListBox, CheckBox, RadioButton, ComboBox, UserControl, Canvas, Grid, StackPanel, ViewBox, UserControl..

        Other Features planned: Data Binding (through LINQ), improved Mouse events, keyboard events, and the big one for me and most animators the ResourceDictionary. More styling options are mentioned but not further addressed. That actually sounds exciting.
  • Whats next from Microsoft....

    Office 20XX for Linux ???
    • Don't forget

      Microsoft BOB Super Special Vista ME Edition for Linux and Mac OS.
  • AT least something is coming from the <patent agreement>

    I use the words patent agreement with anger still! But I am happy to see something from the deal that may benefit the Linux community as a whole instead of just MS/Novell.

    Yes they may pull Linux support and leave us high and dry, but we are stuck with one proprietary format no as it is. Competition nurtures innovation, which is what this will do. That is if MS doesn't simply buy support.

    But hey they would never do that right....