Blu-ray: death by streaming

By | May 18, 2011, 7:47am PDT

Summary: The studios - and Sony - have lost their Blu-ray bet: streaming has won the war for consumer’s hearts and minds.

The Blu-ray gamble has failed: streaming has won the war for consumer’s hearts and minds. Blu-ray will limp along, but the action is in streaming.

The news this week: DVD/Blu-ray sales down 20% from the year ago quarter. Yes, Blu-ray sales were up 10%, but the larger dynamic is that people prefer to stream video rather than buy - or rent - optical media.

In the meantime, Netflix has seen its business soar, and become the largest single consumer of Internet bandwidth in the US. According to Sandvine:

In North America, Netflix is now 29.7% of peak downstream traffic and has become the largest source of Internet traffic overall. Currently, Real-Time Entertainment applications consume 49.2% of peak aggregate traffic, up from 29.5% in 2009 – a 60% increase. Sandvine forecasts that the Real-Time Entertainment category will represent 55-60% of peak aggregate traffic by the end of 2011.

Translation: consumers want what they want and they want it NOW! Note that streaming is growing fast even as Blu-ray player penetration is still creeping up.

But streaming quality sucks!
Compared to Blu-ray streaming video looks terrible. But if you like what you are watching, who cares?

As Philip Kortum, psych prof at Rice and co-author of the study “The Effect of Content Desirability on Subjective Video Quality Ratings” put it:

If you’re at home watching and enjoying a movie, we found that you’re probably not going to notice or even concern yourself with how many pixels the video is or if the data is being compressed. This strong relationship holds across a wide range of encoding levels and movie content when that content is viewed under longer and more naturalistic viewing conditions.

Blu-ray’s window of opportunity has slammed shut.

The Storage Bits take
As I warned almost 3 years ago:

The question the studios need to ask is: “do we want to be selling disks in 5 years?” No? Then keep it up. Turn distribution over to your very good friends at Comcast, Apple and Time Warner.

Oh, and Netflix.

I love movies and have collected over 1,200 DVD and Blu-ray disks to watch on a 10 foot screen with 5.1 DTS - when I can get it - audio. But even I am often seduced by the convenience and selection of Netflix online.

I still prefer physical media if it doesn’t cost too much, because then I can watch movies on my notebook, iPad or iPhone. So I don’t expect or want disks to disappear.

But Hollywood and Sony brought this on themselves. They overestimated the importance of video quality and the price people were willing to pay. And underestimated how popular streaming video would become.

My larger concern is whether Blu-ray will succeed as a writeable data storage medium for home and business use. Prices are coming down - I’m planning to buy a burner when prices drop below $100 and media below $1 - so I’m hopeful.

Comments welcome, of course. “Remember Betamax? SACD? Minidisk? Laser Disk? DVD-Audio? There are more losers than winners in consumer storage formats.”

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Robin Harris has been messing with computers for over 30 years and selling and marketing data storage for over 20 in companies large and small.

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RE: Blu-ray: death by streaming
bradholister 2nd Dec
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pauln@... 18th May 2011
it depends on the content. to just watch any old movie on Netflix, streaming is fine and we watch a lot of Netflix streaming. But for a great movie I really want to see, it's gotta be BluRay. But give it time and streamign quality will match and then pass BluRay.
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pdskep 18th May 2011
@pauln@... Most people don't care including myself. The hi-def streams are good enough to make the convenience more important than the quality. Yeah I can occasionally see compression artifact, but it doesn't bother me. This should have been an obvious outcome. Just look at the audio situation as a corollary. Most people are happy enough with mp3s. DVD-A died on the vine.
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RE: Blu-ray: death by streaming
dbisse@... 18th May 2011
@pdskep
So basically you like taking a step back to the 70's in a way when Cable wasn't in 99.9% of the market and we used directional antennas to recieve OTA broadcasts. Or when you go to a swap meet and find copy of Star Wars on VHS that has been played 1000 times, do you get the Zenith down from the attic to watch it?

Most people are idiots then would be the key factor in your first sentence. Now I may agree with that, but don't put me into the group that doesn't care about what my 2,000 dollar worth of HDTV Satellite PS3... displays.

The only time I don't care about the quaility is when it is FREE or cheap enough to use the "You get what you pay for." phrase. Reason why netflix is 8 bucks a month for streamin is probably due to the lack of enough idiots that would pay 9.

I do see that by 2020 this quality difference will be a moot point but you will still have bandwidth caps, download limits and 15 things not yet invented clogging up the works.
@pdskep: ... BlueRay support?

As it systematically turns out, Steven Jobs was right, and bloggers were wrong.
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RE: Blu-ray: death by streaming
pdskep Updated - 18th May 2011
@dbisse@...
No what I'm saying is there is a cost/benefit ratio to the decision. The picture quality is good enough for most people. BTW, your hyperbolic comments are ridiculous if not entertaining. Just because some people are not desperate for the highest quality picture doesn't make them idiots. My HD streaming quality is very good. Better than upscaling DVD and only slightly worse than Blu-Ray. So yes, for me it's worth it. If it's a movie I do care about, I will buy the disc.
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I guess MS was right too
Will Pharaoh 18th May 2011
@pdskep
since they decide not to nativelly support Blu-Ray in Windows, either
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bradavon 19th May 2011
@ Will Pharaoh: Windows Vista SP2 supports blu-ray out of the box. I imagine Windows 7 does too.
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bradavon, is doesn't
Will Pharaoh 19th May 2011
@pdskep
That was pulled from Win7 due to licensing costs (Sony wanted too much for something who's future wasn't garanteed).

When you buy a Blu-Ray drive you need to purchase software to go along with it to watch blu-ray disks, as the drive comes with te minimum free software to do so in most cases.
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RyuDarragh 19th May 2011
@pdskep: Yes, indeed. But the phenomenon is older than our digital age. In the early 70's my sister toted her teeny and very tinny sounding AM radio around to listen to music and utterly refused to use my larger, but vastly superior sound quality FM radio because "It's too big". The same attitude applied to her tiny 45 RPM record player in a lunch box compared to my cassette playing (not quite a) boom box. Whenever I dwell on my Quest for Quality, I am reminded of her convenience-and-style-over-quality attitude. My gransmother related to me similar stories from her childhood along similar lines and that was years before FM radio was even conceived of.
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People are stupid.
dgurney Updated - 19th May 2011
We have very high-quality image- and sound-reproduction equipment available at relatively low cost. But NOTHING TO PLAY ON IT.

People are literally cheering the return to VHS quality, and railing AGAINST movie theaters. With physical media dying and being replaced by garbage-quality compressed hash, there is no way to see high-quality images anymore.

How does anyone not understand what a monumental loss this is? The comments about "I don't need to see rom-coms in high def" are stupid. Do you think anyone is going to maintain high-quality projection systems and venues for 10% of the movies that are issued? Do you think a giant building is just going to be mothballed until a movie comes out that YOU deem worthy of high quality?

No. That theater will be torn down, and there will be NO place to see a "spectacular" movie. And why would a director or cinematographer continue to pursue his craft when there's no way to properly display it?

THINK IT THROUGH.
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Zogg Updated - 23rd May 2011
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erik.soderquist Updated - 19th May 2011
@dgurney

i have a screen and projector in my home that rivals the theater, with much less crowding and much more comfortable seating, and i put it together 3 years ago for under $2000... if i see a movie come out that i feel warrants the hi quality experience, i'll buy the disc. (did for the LotR trilogy).

while i can't say i have a 25 meter screen, i also don't need to be 35 meters away from it to see the entire screen either.

i did the various calculations for size vs range to get the same viewing experience i would in a theater in my home, the only "downside" i have found to doing this is that i can't host nearly as many people as the theater hosts. i can only comfortably seat 15-20 people without having people out of the "optimum viewing area". on the up side, i have a much better selection of snacks, much more control over when the film starts and ends, more comfortable accommodations, etc...

with the price of the equipment continuing to fall, i expect this will become more the norm. streaming is fine for more people, and the quality of the streams will continue to improve, but said quality is not a factor for most people and never has been.

on average, the human eye is not capable of telling the difference between DVD quality and BluRay quality under "normal" (for the test results i read, also a few years ago) viewing experiences. streaming quality was ranked above VHS quality, but below DVD/BluRay quality.

yes you can get equipment that can display the difference, and have bragging rights for it, but that doesn't mean your eyes can actually perceive the difference. i know for a fact mine can't. (color-blind, astigmatism, and nearsighted). however, i've also played back a DVD and a BluRay of the same movie, both with 5.1 sound enabled, and asked which had better video and audio quality. shuffling the order of the clips i played back, neither BluRay nor DVD was reliably selected as "higher quality". now, if i had the 25 meter screen and had people examine a very small section of the projection up close for compression artifacting (DVD and BluRay both use compression) i'm sure under that analysis, BluRay would win. but that isn't normal viewing of movies.

perhaps the conventional movie theaters are dying... they would not be the first "casualty" of progress. now it is almost impossible to find good quality hand made furniture for general availability... building furniture was once a widespread trade. i have no doubt that streaming quality will eventually surpass even BluRay's quality as research into better compression algorithms continues. this is a growing pain of the industry, not a funeral for quality
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wil2ein 25th May 2011
to erik.soderquist:

what projector are you using? did you really say "i have a screen and projector in my home that rivals the theater" and also say "i've played back a DVD and a BluRay of the same movie, and shuffling the order of the clips i played back, neither BluRay nor DVD was reliably selected as higher quality"? because if the second statement is true, the first most definitely is not.

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Excuse me?
Zogg Updated - 30th May
Someone makes a preposterous claim that the failure of Blu-Ray will lead to the death of movie theatres, and I respond "don't be ridiculous".

How on Earth is that grounds for deletion?

Consider that movies can be captured from 35mm film and scanned at either 2048x1556 or 4096x2160 resolution for digital projection, and then compare that to Blu-Ray's 1920x1080 resolution, and you'll realize that Blu-Ray is already obsolete as far as "ultra high quality" images go. And it hasn't even caught up with 35mm film quality!

Movie theatres are not going to disappear.
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krtinberg 30th Aug
@pdskep I tend to agree with this.. Most people don't care enough to make the switch. I know I fall into that category.
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@pdskep
This was very insightful and I really enjoyed reading it.
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@pauln@...
which is also hitting sales of players, not just streaming alone.
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That's not HD.
dgurney 19th May 2011
Anyone can slap the "HD" label on anything. It's meaningless. Just look at the compressed garbage being touted as HD.
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RE: Blu-ray: death by streaming
Robin Harris 18th May 2011
@pauln@...
Agree: '50s film noir looks great streaming, but Hollywood blockbusters with quality special effects - think Avatar or Inception - deserve Blu-ray. But they are the exception, not the rule. Rom-coms in Blu-ray? Not worth a premium.

Robin
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RE: Blu-ray: death by streaming
tonymcs@... 18th May 2011
@Robin Harris

There's also a substantial number of people who prefer legal downloads over the internet from their cable company or H264 adn DiVx files downloaded illegally as torrents.

If you want the quality, just wait for the download rather than tying up the net with stuff that doesn't have to be streamed.
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njb311 18th May 2011
@Robin Harris

A parallel point being that studios are making movies purely to exploit effects, without regard for a good story. When someone watches a film and the first thing they say was the effects were great, it's probably also the case that the film itself was rubbish. Avatar is a case in point.
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That makes no sense.
dgurney 19th May 2011
"If you want the quality, just wait for the download rather than tying up the net with stuff that doesn't have to be streamed."

WTF is that supposed to mean? A download IS something that's not being streamed. And the "legal" versions are often shittier than the ones that individuals post.
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joetaxpayer 19th May 2011
@pauln@... Well, I'd say you nailed it. There's some point where bandwidth is sufficient to stream with no issue. Some of us lived through 300baud/1200baud....56Kbs, etc. At my current 10Mbs or so, a great HD image isn't too far away. (the stream needs to be consistent, I know, just a bit of backbone improvement)
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1080p
GoPower 19th May 2011
1080p is the highest quality your TV will support, so until the standard changes that's it. Only took about 60 years to change the standard from NTSC to ATSC, so don't hold your breath.
@pauln@...
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aiellenon 19th May 2011
@pauln@...

When it comes to Netflix, the quality is not the issue, it is the content. They have practically nothing available to stream, unless you want to watch 60's, 70's, and 80's TV shows and B-rated 70's and 80's sci-fi movies. I can still walk into a blockbuster (if you can find one, although there are 3 still open within 30 min drive of me) and find 100 movies I'd rather watch than what is available on netflix for streaming.

Don't get me too wrong, I have 200 titles on my streaming queue, but also 300 on my dvd queue that are not available to stream.
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Joe Davola 20th May 2011
@aiellenon "60's, 70's, and 80's TV shows and B-rated 70's and 80's sci-fi movies"
Really? Exaggerate much? Look again...
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RE: Blu-ray: death by streaming
Mclooney10 20th Sep
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RE: Blu-ray: death by streaming
thomasutt1984 4th Oct
@pauln@... I agree 100%, In fact I just bought my boy the Lion King on blue ray a few hours ago.
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$100/$1
Economister Updated - 18th May 2011
I see that already, so go shopping.

I agree with you however; convenience and price are powerful marketing tools. Physical media, apart from for archiving, are on the way out. Even streaming quality will keep improving, IF we just allow/force more competition in the market place. When the last mile becomes fiber, you will get at least close to your BD quality from Netflicks. It is only a matter of time.

Eventually you will get "all you can eat" music and video steaming for a flat monthly fee, which in a sense is strikingly close to having your ISP collect a monthly fee and divvy it up among the rights holders, and allowing unlimited downloading of pirated material, except the HDD and optical media companies will lose a LOT of business.

How ironic.
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BillDem 19th May 2011
@Economister Last mile fiber would be nice, but Full HD streaming is primarily held back by data caps. Streaming five full Blu-rays at full HD 1080p will blow past the data caps of many ISPs. Streaming a single Blu-ray is about 20 times the data cap on cellular data plans. That's why you only see 720p content (or lower) being streamed. Having a full fiber connection won't help us if we still have a 200 gigabyte data cap each month.

As a side note, I still think it should be against the law to advertise a plan as "unlimited" when data caps are attached or tethering is separate. There is literally no aspect of those plans which is truly unlimited.

Regarding Blu-ray versus streaming. I have a big flat panel and expensive supporting equipment. Streamed content looks terrible on it, compared to even up-scaled DVD, so I avoid it. I own over 1,000 movies and less than 10% are Blu-ray. The single biggest reason is price. I only buy big special effects films on Blu-ray. The rest are DVD which is up-scaled beautifully by my player.

My point is, the studios have killed Blu-ray more than any other factor by setting the price far too high at introduction. When Blu-ray was introduced, the discs should have been priced like DVDs and DVDs should have been reduced. Instead, they gouged consumers who logically responded by not buying. There is no way I'm paying $30-35 for the latest Disney flick on Blu-ray. They're morons for thinking I would. The studios' stupidity is what killed Blu-ray. Streaming was just another nail in the coffin of an already doomed format.
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BluRay
Hasam1991 18th May 2011
I agree I have one player and haven't used it in over a year.. in face I might get rid of it... it just collects dust. I wish the studios would move to SD Cards but they are very small so who knows..
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robertr@... 18th May 2011
If you want to enjoy quality images on an HDTV the BLU-RAY is the ticket. Too many titles are expensive so sales will be slow. Streaming is great (I will be buying a GOOGLE TV since my OPPO Player is not streaming enabled) but having a slow DSL makes it look pretty lame on a 50" Plasma. I rent through NETFLIX and cut my DISC count down to one to keep cost down since there is a premium for BLU-RAY titles. I have noticed a lot of STREAMING Titles have been removed in my queue due to license expiration, so the selection is not that great. So if DISC prices are high and streaming quality improves then yes I see it dwindling. Too bad, I waited a long time for a great image on my monitor.
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pdskep 18th May 2011
@robertr@... Your big problem is that you have DSL. I have cable and almost always get the full 5 bars for download quality. The picture is remarkably good most of the time.
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udonkey 19th May 2011
@pdskep not for long Comcast will cap your band with and the 8.00 dollar streaming video will probably double because cable is loosing to streaming video this is the problem we as consumers are facing big media business invest heavily into one area like cable and fail to see the hand writing on the wall just like block buster and Hollywood video we live in a society of on demand and instant print media and physical media like dvds are dying
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7mgte 18th May 2011
Okay, so the general consensus seems to indicate that BluRay provides better picture quality, but streaming provides convenience and (potentially) cost savings.

This proves that we are a truly WalMart society seeking low cost and convience over quality. People don't seem to care that the low cost MIC crap they buy falls apart and they will be buying a replacement in 6 months. Here and now they got it cheap and it will do for the next few minutes.

Consumers need to figure out what they really want: low cost or quality and vote with their wall. Either start demanding quality (and be willing to pay for it) or shut up about quality and accept cheap (cost and quality) products.
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No they don't and they do
Economister 18th May 2011
@7mgte

They ARE figuring it out and they ARE voting with their wallets, but consumer tastes and preferences are not uniform.
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kris_stapley@... 18th May 2011
@7mgte
Walmart's massive growth and revenues already proved that our society in general is a walmart society. Not really a fair comparison. It is no more convenient to leave your house for a walmart than a high end store. Personally, I never found a good reason to own a blu ray player. My game console of choice is an xbox 360, which you can rent 1080p movies on at a reasonable price, assuming you've got the bandwidth. I understand the image and sound quality is not the absoulte best to be had, but it's still great.
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Churlish Updated - 18th May 2011
7mgte --

Agreed. I think this whole "settling for convenience over quality" thing is utterly depressing.

I don't insist on watching EVERYTHING in 1080p HD, nor do I wish to own the DVDs/Blu-rays of EVERY movie or show that I watch. So, for the most part, streaming would work for me at least some of the time.

However, I have three major problems with streaming media:

1. Ownership. Your property rights with regards to streaming media are much more easily undermined than those you can expect with physical media. If I don't have the physical media in my hand -- safe from third-party meddling -- how can I be certain that another Kindle/ 1984 DRM debacle won't suddenly deprive me of what I thought I'd purchased?

2. Dependency. With physical media, I only require electricity and a working device to enjoy the movies/shows/music I've purchased. Physical books, magazines, and newspapers don't ever require a power source. Streaming media requires an internet connection, as well as reliable device- or cloud-based storage. Countless recent incidents that have exposed "reliable cloud storage" for the oxymoron it is.

Similarly, there are no "bandwidth caps" on my physical media, and there never will be. Nothing will prevent the costs of streaming media from going up and up and up over time. I don't love the thought of paying to watch or listen to the same thing more than once.

Finally, notice the negative reactions to many recent video game releases for the PC: many of these require an active internet connection, even if you only want to play a single-player game. This is purely for DRM/control reasons ... this dependency takes value and convenience away from consumers rather than adding it.

3. Quality. Right now we have the OPTION to stream most of the media we consume, but purchase a Blu-ray for those films or shows we'd really like to collect and watch multiple times. If Blu-ray and other high-quality formats are killed by mediocre or "just good enough" streaming media, then we simply won't be able to obtain the best-quality version possible, because no one will be making it.

Also, in terms of content, streaming video rarely includes the extra features (deleted scenes, commentary, etc.) that DVDs include. In good movies and shows, these features add so much value to the final product.

Sadly I know I'm fighting the tide here, but streaming media GUARANTEES that you'll be paying more for much, much less.
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tkejlboom 18th May 2011
@Churlish

No it doesn't. If ISPs in the U.S. didn't suck, we'd already have broadband speed comparable to Japan, which already offers more bandwidth than blu-ray. That is to say, paying heaps of money guarantees that as long as your equipment never breaks and you can afford to run it all, what you get will never change, but with streaming, there exists constantly the opportunity for your content to improve whenever your infrastructure does. Almost the exact opposite of what you said.
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Those who hunt Trolls 19th May 2011
@Churlish

I agree with you post 100% and honestly it saddens me because general consumer ignorance along with the demand for instant gratification is really screwing us all in the long run. People don't really realize what they are losing with this. I truly hope that physical media doesn't disappear.
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Joe Davola 20th May 2011
@Churlish I'm certainly not paying more for less. I watch a lot of movies and I can count on 2 hands the films I'd like to watch more than once, much less clutter my shelves.
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@7mgte

I think right now price is a bigger factor then convenience. Yes, convenience certainly accounts for some folks choosing streaming over bluRay, but I think if the price of a BluRay disk was much lower, then the number of BluRay sales would definitely come up. Right now we consumers are voting with our wallets more then anything else and more then any time in recent history. Not many regular folks out there can justify the premium of a BluRay disk over the lower cost streaming option when we have the economy we have right now. It's just not going to happen. If the BluRay folks were serious, they would greatly reduce their costs and focus on volume.

Will this fix everything... no, because I do believe there are a good portion of folks who enjoy the convenience over the quality, but it would certainly increase BluRay sales over what they are now. And I would even venture to say they would improve sales not just a little, but by a good amount. But I greatly doubt we will see this happen. Too bad... because there are cases where I would purchase the BluRay version if it were affordable.
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Those who hunt Trolls 19th May 2011
@shannonthill

I think it depends on how an individual consumes data. I find that the better quality of a blu ray disc along with not having to worry about caps to enjoy something as often as I want is the better value in the long run. While someone who wants convenience and either only watches something once with "good enough" quality might like streaming more.
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dhmccoy 19th May 2011
@7mgte
No, this doesn't prove that we are a Wal-Mart society. This proves that people don't apply equal value to everything. In other words, what is important to you, is not important to me and vice-versa. I am not interested in Blue-ray. Instead of putting my money there, I would rather spend it in other ways that are more fulfilling to me.

This shows that you are a bit narrow in your beliefs, and a bit closed-minded. It is always interesting to me that people attack society at large simply because others in society make decisions with which these people don't agree.

Personally, I think people are nuts for paying the blue-ray premium. Waste of money, but yours to waste.
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Oh they love the customers that don't use any bandwidth, send emails and browse the web only. Once you start becoming a serious consumer of data, like downloads, you move on to their hate list, and they start throttling you and dropping your connection for 20 or 30 seconds repeatedly.

Cable companies are the scum of the earth, and they are responsible for retarding the growth of the internet. They are why so many other countries have such better internet service than we.
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You forgot phone companies...
Champ_Kind 18th May 2011
@HollywoodDog They'll either give you just enough bandwidth if you pay through the nose for it, or they won't give you enough bandwidth if you don't. Wireless internet companies (Clear, for example) are in the same boat as cable with connection throttling.

Personally, I'll stick with Comcast because it's a relatively stable enough connection and allows me to stream 720p to my AppleTV without issue.
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RE: Blu-ray: death by streaming
bradholister 2nd Dec
The Blu-ray Dvd technologies can develop the factor of the PC program in the home. Of course, it can be used to back up a hard disk and retail shop the progressively more large information that are common these days, such as electronic images and movie. Moreover, the Blu-ray Dvd technologies gives the PC full-fledged, high-definition multi media features. online coupons codes

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