How will the disk shortage affect you?

By | November 17, 2011, 8:01am PST

Summary: Massive flooding has shut down disk giant Western Digital’s Thai plant. Asustek could run out of disks by the end of this month; Lenovo and Apple have issued warnings. That’s just the tip of the iceberg.

We heard a similar story with the Japan earthquake/tsunami/meltdown disaster: plants offline; component shortages; widespread disruptions forecast. But somehow things have kept going for most vendors with the exception of Lexus, Toyota and Honda.

What’s real
There’s 4 feet of water in the WD plant. Even after the flood waters recede a substantial clean up is required: one analyst forecast 56 days of downtime.

That plant produces about half of WDs disks. WD produces about half of the world’s disks, so worst case we’re looking at a 25-30% reduction in global disk supply over the next 2-3 months.

Global production is ≈50 million drives a month, so the shortfall could be 30-50 million drives. Yeah, that would hurt.

Components?
Disk component suppliers have also been affected, but there’s less visibility into their condition. Worst-case so far: the vendor who makes most of the world’s spindle motors has a flooded plant.

But shortages of other critical components are possible, and could affect all vendors, not just WD. OTOH, other plants could ramp up to fill the void - and it would be in their financial interest to do so.

The Storage Bits take
A few takeaways:

  • No raw drive deals for 4-6 months. Your best bet for deals on capacity will be drives that are in external cases.
  • Smaller drive sizes will be scarce. Available components will go into the newest and most profitable products first - not smaller capacity drives.
  • PC shipments will be affected. You’ll have more luck with systems that were already in inventory, not systems with the latest and greatest.
  • SSDs are a wild card. Will vendors go for volume or margins? If the latter there could be some good deals this holiday season and especially come February-March as inventory is replenished.
  • Apple could be hurt. Apple’s volume is much smaller, and with their increasing move into SSDs they have less bargaining power than Dell or Lenovo.

Large buyers, like HP, still have power with vendors. Asus may have problems getting drives, but if there are drives to be had, HP will get them.

SSDs don’t have the faintest hope of replacing disks en masse, but disk vendors know that price is their big advantage. That will limit the upside pricing changes to vendors. The issue bigger issue will be rationing, not price gouging.

The dynamic to watch is how this affects how drive vendors allocate product to their in-house storage systems operations. This is a high-growth business for margin-hungry drive vendors.

Seagate and WD both have healthy, growing and more-profitable-than-raw-drives SOHO/SMB storage businesses. Given a choice between shipping a 10% gross margin drive to Asus or a 25% GM subsystem, which will they prefer?

Comments welcome, of course. Thanks to global warming we need to get used to these kinds of problems - especially flooding.

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@HypnoToad72 .. you're right
thx-1138_@... Updated - 3rd Dec
... it was greed that saw many companies move to South East Asia for manufacturing .. well, that and the fact they could exploit workers in sweat shops: thus letting us have, available, cheaper than otherwise possible, hardware.

The down side for this artificial reason for hiking prices is eventually it will have the affect of coming back to haunt the vendors in the long run. For starters, you can't inflate prices unfeasibly in a chronically depressed market and expect people to pay the hiked price for their (WD's) misfortune and bad manufacturing redundancy plans (... what plans you ask?) and expect to make a killing.

As usual, because of this, the public have to pay for corporate stupidity and lack of foresight. I don't know about you, but i'm pretty sure people wont be lining up around the block (in a hugely depressed market) to buy overpriced HDD's. It's most likely the majority (not including business / enterprise) will just try to manage the storage they have until prices equalize again.

As for me, i won't be propping up Western Digital (buying their goods) for their pathetic lack of contingency plans for something like this natural disaster. Commercial buyers obviously will have little choice when storage demands dictate they need more capacity.
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tried to order too late
maltomeal3 17th Nov
Not at all to downplay the suffering of the people directly affected by the flood, but I was one day late in ordering a 500GB 2.5" drive on Amazon. It was in my cart at $65 one day, and the next jumped to $130. So I'll make due until manufacturing starts back up.
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NetAdmin1178 17th Nov
@maltomeal3

Yeah, prices have already started rising substanstially for drives. I just got done replacing a failed hard drive for a friend in his laptop. Nothing special - just basic 2.5" 250GB SATA drive - but the best price I could find for one from a reputable dealer was $65. Only a month or so ago, that drive would have retailed for about $40.

I told my friend, "Sorry, but you computer picked a bad time to die...", and went on with the repair.
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@maltomeal3 - How do you know prices will go back down? Any time soon?

If ever?

Kept high for long enough, people will forget. After all, gas prices are going down, but food prices aren't following the same "economic laws"... and people are more likely going to see gas prices consciously than food prices...

Also, what happened to "globalization"? Why did these companies put all of their eggs in just one region? Seemed to be very myopic and greedy on their part, presuming nothing would happen...
@HypnoToad72 Possibly, if other manufacturers raise their production capacity before WD can get back to full capacity, there will be increased competition in the marketplace, pricing wars may bring prices back down to "normal" levels fast. But it all depends on the competition in this case.

This can become especially true if too many smaller vendors or a large vendor switches to a competitor for their drives.
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@HypnoToad72 .. you're right
thx-1138_@... Updated - 3rd Dec
... it was greed that saw many companies move to South East Asia for manufacturing .. well, that and the fact they could exploit workers in sweat shops: thus letting us have, available, cheaper than otherwise possible, hardware.

The down side for this artificial reason for hiking prices is eventually it will have the affect of coming back to haunt the vendors in the long run. For starters, you can't inflate prices unfeasibly in a chronically depressed market and expect people to pay the hiked price for their (WD's) misfortune and bad manufacturing redundancy plans (... what plans you ask?) and expect to make a killing.

As usual, because of this, the public have to pay for corporate stupidity and lack of foresight. I don't know about you, but i'm pretty sure people wont be lining up around the block (in a hugely depressed market) to buy overpriced HDD's. It's most likely the majority (not including business / enterprise) will just try to manage the storage they have until prices equalize again.

As for me, i won't be propping up Western Digital (buying their goods) for their pathetic lack of contingency plans for something like this natural disaster. Commercial buyers obviously will have little choice when storage demands dictate they need more capacity.
Just priced out a terabyte hard disk and it's up over 100% from what I paid last year.
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@ye - three days ago I bought a 2TB HDD for $150.

Deals are there.

It just seems online retailers are taking early advantage of things, and not letting existing stock sell at prices according to the time they were made.
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RE: How will the disk shortage affect you?
dallasdeckard@... 21st Nov
@HypnoToad72 I bought a 2 TB drive for $99 two months ago, so the $150 you paid represents a price hike. Of course, it depends on the drive, the speed and other factors, but a couple months ago I could find a 2 TB, 7200 rpm, bare drive for $99 - $125.
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@HypnoToad72 Stuff is never sold at prices according to the time it was made. If a shortage occurs, prices of stock already made goes up because it is now in short supply. Think gasoline already in the tanks of gas stations when a storm knocks out a refinery. Price goes up instantly, no waiting til new stock comes it. Why? Supply and demand. BY the same token, if a seller buys at a higher price while the refinery is offline and later the capacity loosens up and competitors lower prices, the seller must do so as well and looses money. It all evens out.
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Just bought components to build a brand new computer. The cost of a 1TB HDD was ridiculous.
These prices are crazy. A 500GB WD Blue is now 140$ at Newegg. Insane!
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Supply is low, demand is high, prices rise.
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I got lucky 2 weeks ago with a 10am Sunday morning run to Office Depot. Built 4 new systems by stripping 3TB drives from Western Digital externals for $130 each. 2 new orders this week, they have 200GB used drives from a local recycle shop. IOU stickers attached with free migration when supply returns. Customers understand.
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Definitely Agree!
Drakkhen 17th Nov
My RAID 1 C drive failed at home... I ordered a 1TB disk for GBP 50. That was 2 or 3 weeks ago... Still waiting! Amazon says the delivery should be before 25th of Dec and the disk is no longer available through their online shop... I saw the same disk at another vendor for GBP 100. My guess is they will cancel my order at some point sad
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And in the meantime I could buy a cheap USB 1TB drive for GBP 75. The article is right: far easier to get cheaper external drive than RAW ones!
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@Drakkhen
Correct! And before you drive yourself crazy looking for a raw drive bargain, check out SSDs: do you *really* need all those gigabytes, when for a little more you can get SSD performance?
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@R Harris

For a lot of people, the answer is YES! I personally need a big hard drive for backups and for storage of my movie collection (all ripped from LEGAL discs).

Of course, since that drive gets startlingly little usage, it will last near forever.
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@Drakkhen - amazingly, and - again at least for brick'n'mortar stores - their prices have not gone up.

Yet.

If the innards are stock SATA2 drives, then there's no problem.

Yet.

And, as R Harris said, maybe now is the time to go SSD. At least for OS volumes. For data, especially those in graphic arts, film, etc, mechanical HDDs are still the only cost-effective solution.
... instead of an "A" or "B" drive.
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@ldo17 I hope you were trying to be funny, by "C" drive the poster means the boot drive, "A" and "B" drives are for floppies while in windows.
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RE: How will the disk shortage affect you?
brettweisz@... Updated - 17th Nov
Nice global warming plug at the end.
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@brettweisz@...
Thanks! It's a gift from baby boomers to the younger generation. Along with financial deregulation and the Tea Party.
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I think youâ??re insane
Rick_Kl 17th Nov
[Apple could be hurt. Apple???s volume is much smaller, and with their increasing move into SSDs they have less bargaining power than Dell or Lenovo.]
If I am not mistaken, correct me if I am wrong, Apple has more money than HP, or Lenovo. Smart businesses follow the money.
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@Rick_Kl - smart businesses use psychology to get people to spend money.

Apple having more money is due to only one thing: The usage of psychology. Nothing more. After all, explain to Apple's customers about the working conditions of the factories they continue to use (along with HP and the rest) and their customers' jaws drop about 7 feet and bounce off the floor. sad

You are right, though - Apple will be hurt. Usually their profits skyrocket as component costs drop (when the Intel CPU drops $100 for them, it's all profit as the price the customer pays never changes -- unlike other brand PCs, and Apple updates their line more slowly, which is very green (environmentally friendly) of them to do, actually. Conversely, if a component price goes up, they have to eat the cost because they know they can't raise prices until the next model comes out...
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I don't really understand why these floods are causing problems. Are these companies REALLY that goddamned stupid that they didn't have extra manufacturing capacity in other countries that they could bring up very quickly? It's called R E D U N D A N C Y! Why didn't they have that?

Even for manufacturing, it's just common sense to have that.
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@Lerianis10 - why build redundancy when that might hurt profit?

Oops, it happened.

Not really - people will likely spend 3x the price as they used to.

So they still profit.

Time will tell, of course.

But if "globalization" were real, we would see genuine and legitimate redundancy. Not playing hopscotch with countries just to aim for the quickest, cheapest profit. Which in turn would have been a more stable way to change the economy into, rather than their short-sighted migration of locales and pocketing the difference for their profit (and then using that to stomp down on wages and other factors globally, just so they can benefit).
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Spoken like a true IT geek..
daftkey 18th Nov
@Lerianis10 ..

Redundancy in manufacturing is just a tad more expensive than redundancy in hard drives, power supplies, etc, and it is also a lot harder to justify...
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@daftkey

daftkey, that isn't speaking as an IT geek. That is speaking as someone whose uncle worked in manufacturing for Boeing for years and they had redundancy out the wazoo, just in case something broke.

They even had a half-plant a couple of miles down the road for about 10 years just in case their was a serious flood somewhere, on top of a hill.

Something just doesn't jibe here.... if I was running a business, I would darn well want some redundancy because if my business is sidelined for 3-6 months? I might not be in business anymore.
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how many hard drives do people need?
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RE: How will the disk shortage affect you?
Lerianis10 Updated - 17th Nov
For a computer if you want backup? 1 hard drive and then another hard drive at LEAST 2 times the size of the main hard drive.
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@Bakabaka - depends on what people do, if they need offsite storage, or do a lot of video editing since uncompressed video takes up a TON of storage...
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@Bakabaka I just counted: I have 30 disks, plus an SSD.
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@R Harris

WOW! Talk about a lot. I personally have about 10 of those in my home, but 3 are SSD drives and one is an external.
@Bakabaka
According to the article, about 50 million drives a month.
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The local brick and mortar stores still sell HDDs at $100/1TB, $150 for 2TB, etc.

Maybe they didn't hear of the catastrophe and aren't cashing in like everyone else? Gee, maybe brick'n'mortar stores aren't as bad anymore...

Given Apple enjoys big profit boosts when component prices drop (especially the Mac Pro tower desktop line), the moment they raise prices on ANY of their Mac computers using a HDD will be the ultimate proof that they are gouging. Most businesses do seem to want it both ways, since the law of "supply and demand" is never supposed to hurt THEM (only for everyone else, of course...)

Hitachi has been a surprisingly good brand - used in Apple's Macbooks and even OEM, I've had no problems...

So stock up now, support your big blue electronics store or little white one with the red lettering that's about office supplies to the max. One can never have too much backup...
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@HypnoToad72

You overpaid - I bought 2TB drives for under $90 (US) -something like $45 per TB.
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@HypnoToad72

Brick and mortar stores are kept, by law, in some areas from raising their prices until they are sold out of their current inventory. It's meant to keep customers from getting gouged, and works quite well.
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There is a rumour going on - WD will shift their their manufacturing to Malaysia. They used to make drives there years ago, but shifted to Thailand to lower costs. That will solve the flood problem, and prices will eventually drop but not to the low levels we have seen just before the floods?
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@Tigerz67 No rumour at all,, WD has been making drives in Malaysia continuously for years and capacity wise it has been growing. Certainly they are working the Malaysa multi-facilities hot and hard, but there is only so much that can be stretched and since the world treats HDDs as a second-thought-commodity, and buy whatever is the cheapest du jour, how much "extra capacity" would a sane company have idled and waiting for the worst flood in over 50 years while all of your shareholders are reading your quarterly statements and asking questions? "Uhh well, I spent this extra billion bucks so I could have uhh..redundancy"
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@simplifried

Quite a bit, considering that floods like this are nothing strange, even in the United States.

They should have AT LEAST had a half-factory set up somewhere else that could be brought online very quickly, so that they could keep on making money.
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@Tigerz67

Eh.... I doubt they will move that far. Personally, I think that they will just have some redundancy and have two factories 100 miles apart so floods in one area won't affect the other factory.
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@Lerianis10
There is much about this industry that you may not be considering in your remarks. A "half" a factory? "100 miles apart"? Once again, this is not a market that allows "redundancy" to the scale you suggest. Margins, capricious buying habits, encroaching technologies, firece competition, simply doesn't alllow that luxury. The real strategic thinking in the HDD industry has shifted to manufacturing and yield a long time ago. The name of the game is maximized utilization of assets (volumes/yield) while maintaining continuous boosts to existing technology (more bytes for the buck or higher areal density), and developing new technologies (hybrid, HAMR,) all while maintaining very high reliability, managing a multiple segments of applications and sales channels. Go figure.
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RE: How will the disk shortage affect you?
simplifried Updated - 18th Nov
NAND prices have been falling, while HDD prices are rising. Believe me, HDD makers are watching that relationship closely; but I doubt with any great trepidation. SSD attach rates were less than 5% last quarter. Just to ramp up to any meaningful volumes to take away a meaningful share from HDD would be difficult. What is a the lead time on a new NAND fab? Still SSD sales will undoubtedly grow, and there is some elasticity in capacity there.While Western Digital had flooding in both of their Thailand HDD assemby factories, the more serious loss was the backend process for making read-write heads. That was a totally inundated in 5 meters of water, and recovery processes underway now haven't gone far enough for anyone to know yet how much equipment can be salvaged versus how much is total loss. Believe it or not, the Royal Thai Navy sent divers into their factory, as well as others, to assist with unbolting equipment from the floors for removal. With recent signals in the news that the merger with Hitachi GST (HGST) will finally get approval will be welcome news. I am guessing WD will focus first on consolidating head operations into the Philippines where HGST currently operates their main head manufacturing facilities. In addition an SEC filing yesterday signals that WD has entered into a new material agreement with long time secondary head supplier TDK. The agreement appears to involve several quarters of commitments for both sides. That may go a long way to solving WD's shortfall of heads, but I do not think it will be enough to recover former volumes. That will likely depend on available capacity and suitability of head ops at HGST, how fast equipment can be recovered or new replacement equipment can be ordered & commissioned, and potentially.. brick and mortar expansion either in the Philippines or elsewhere.
Poor Thailand. On top of floods, dispossesed home owners, several years of political strife, a clamp down on civil liberties, the loss of tourist revenues, an ongoing and bloody uprising in the south of Thailand, and poor global economic conditions, the country will likely lose several thousand jobs. Robin is right about the fall-out. HDD makers will show preference for higher margin products, for get the white box vendors and the roll your own server crowd (which could includes many data storage system companies). Supply will be constrained for at least another year, and some prices may stay higher then they were, imho.
Already have my new drive, so I'm good happy.
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Not sure you can blame it on "Global Warming" but, yes, the prices have already increased. I bought a 1Tb external drive two months ago at Wal-Mart for 90 bucks and a friend mentioned that he was looking for something similar and told me the prices he was being quoted - I thought he was being scammed (I did not know about the flooding - not sure how I missed that) until I re-checked prices. Sure glad I bought mine when I did!
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I know what happened
Joe_Raby 18th Nov
Their RAID 1 manufacturing volume failed.
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If WD is the only shortage, that's fine with me, i use Seagate anyway.
The vendors are indeed gouging hell out of everybody.
I have to chuckle, as the Seagate drives made in China also went WAAAAY up in price and are now rationed.

There is nothing like a good natural disaster to bring out the profiteers.
I suppose I should feel sorry for WD being so stupid as to build a plant in known flood zones.. but I don't.
Global Warming...really?!?!? We are now going to blame drive shortage on Global Warming, give me a break!!! Another mindless dweeb jumping on the Global Warming band wagon.
How about offshore manufacturing starting to bite American business in the Butt?
YOu all went offshore claiming it was cheaper.
Now your offshore plant is flooded, do you have anything left in North American Production facilities?

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