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Richard Stiennon

AOL demonstrates why cookies are evil

By | August 9, 2006, 10:38am PDT

Summary: I have been put on the spot often enough for defending people’s rights to remove cookies that I am rather sensitive to the issue.  I have never been comfortable talking about invasion of privacy because it makes me sound a bit paranoid. Rather, I have fallen back on the argument "people don’t like cookies so [...]

evilcookie.jpgI have been put on the spot often enough for defending people’s rights to remove cookies that I am rather sensitive to the issue.  I have never been comfortable talking about invasion of privacy because it makes me sound a bit paranoid. Rather, I have fallen back on the argument "people don’t like cookies so they should be able to remove or block them." 

 

Now that AOL has blundered and posted 20 million search queries of 650,000 AOL users this issue has come back to haunt us. After realizing just how stupid it was to reveal even "anonymized" data, AOL pulled the information off their server. But the cat is out of the bag.  The NYT  reports how one such AOL subscriber was tracked down just from her searches:

And search by search, click by click, the identity of AOL user No. 4417749 became easier to discern. There are queries for “landscapers in Lilburn, Ga,” several people with the last name Arnold and “homes sold in shadow lake subdivision gwinnett county georgia.”

It did not take much investigating to follow that data trail to Thelma Arnold, a 62-year-old widow who lives in Lilburn, Ga., frequently researches her friends’ medical ailments and loves her three dogs. “Those are my searches,” she said, after a reporter read part of the list to her.

Scary.  Try it for yourself. Here are a bunch of mirrors for the 439 Mb data set.  (Don’t bother bidding for it on eBay) Or just for fun someone put together a search utility here.  Search for a few common terms like anthrax, flight school, fertilizer. You get the picture. 

Now, imagine you have not only search history but browsing history as well. That is what a spyware or third party cookie application collects. Are you comfortable with that amount of databeinng collected? Are you comfortable with Claria’s "new business model" that collects browsing history? Are you paranoid yet? 

 

 

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A former ZDNet blogger, Richard Stiennon is an industry consultant. Most recently he was Chief Marketing Officer for Fortinet, Inc., the largest privately held security vendor. prior to that he was Chief Research Analyst at IT-Harvest. And before creating IT-Harvest, he was VP of threat research for Webroot Software, Inc. the leading commercial anti-spyware solution.

Previously, Richard was VP Research at Gartner, Inc. where he covered security topics including firewalls, intrusion detection, intrusion prevention, security consulting and managed security services for the Security and Privacy group. He is a holder of Gartner's Thought Leadership award for 2003 and was named "One of the 50 most powerful people in Networking" by NetworkWorld magazine. His speaking engagements have included conferences and meetings throughout North and South America, Hawaii, Tokyo, Tel Aviv, Istanbul, Milan, Munich, Hannover, Madrid, London, and Cannes.

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Your article's title is wrong ...
bportlock 14th Aug 2006
... it should read

"Cookies demonstrate why AOL is evil"

There is nothing wrong with cookies. They are tremendously useful but some companies misuse them. Should I dump all my kitchen knives because some nutter killed his wife with a kitchen knife? No of course not.

Besides the cookie isn't at fault here because
a) You can block any cookie you like with a modern browser, and
b) Cookies didn't publish the data - AOL did.

So please aim your anger at the right target - AOL's carelessness.
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Escape this junk permanently
919owner 9th Aug 2006
I use blackboxsearch its a free search proxy and you wont have to deal with this crap anymore.

http://www.blackboxsearch.com
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You mean some suggest we don't have a right to block or remove cookies?

By the way, ZDNet is as bad about denying services unless they can set a persistent cookie as any other site I've seen that makes blocking cookies painful.


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YES -- don't remove cookies!
ChazzMatt 14th Aug 2006
...they scream at us. See, lots of online marketers business models depend on them knowing which ads are effective, which ads we've seen, how many times we've been to their site. So they NEED the cookies to stay on our computers. Cookies are harmless, they say.

Know what? I don't care about their business models. It's MY computer and I will delete what I want.

Some are even trying to come up with cookie schemes where the cookie won't stay deleted but will come to life again, much like Freddie or Jason
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Social Search
owidder 9th Aug 2006
With all the social bookmarks and the like this is just "Social Search".
See my cartoon:
http://geekandpoke.blogspot.com/2006/08/aol-disclosure-was-just-good-intention.html

Bye,
Oliver
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owidder 9th Aug 2006
There is a flaw in the URL. Here is the correct URL:


Bye,
Oliver
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owidder 9th Aug 2006
The URLs above are corrupted since there are white spaces in.

Bye,
Oliver
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Your article's title is wrong ...
bportlock 14th Aug 2006
... it should read

"Cookies demonstrate why AOL is evil"

There is nothing wrong with cookies. They are tremendously useful but some companies misuse them. Should I dump all my kitchen knives because some nutter killed his wife with a kitchen knife? No of course not.

Besides the cookie isn't at fault here because
a) You can block any cookie you like with a modern browser, and
b) Cookies didn't publish the data - AOL did.

So please aim your anger at the right target - AOL's carelessness.

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