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A Quick And Extra-Dirty Music-Lover’s Google Music Review

By | June 12, 2011, 12:43am PDT

Summary: With the announcement at Apple’s WWDC 2011 regarding iCloud music service (for a fee), those who get to play with Google’s Music (Beta) - and general music lovers - are distinctly unimpressed.

With Apple’s WWDC 2011 announcement regarding iCloud music service (for a fee), those who right now are playing with Google’s Music (Beta) - and us basic music lovers - are distinctly unimpressed.

Like most everyone I know that has a varied, eclectic, much-loved (and growing) music collection from all corners of the music worlds, I’m getting increasingly peeved about portability, incompatibility, and lock-ins.

Which is why when I attended Google’s I/O 2011 developer conference, I was particularly intrigued by Google Music Beta.

I didn’t expect to love it. I am now using it every day - on all my computers and up to eight additional devices, if I so choose. Artwork was matched and added (and easily changed by me) to everything from mashups to podcasts to… Musical and MP3 gifts of oblique, dubious, and affectionate origin. Free.

I should also add that Apple’s $24.99/year iCloud music service holds up to 20,000 songs, only after compelling the user to a paid upgrade.*

Google Music Beta currently holds up to 20,000 song files - free.

Feel the burn? This Apple fangirl does.

My only regret is that on writing this, it’s still in invite-beta, and I can’t 100% share it with all my friends - yet.

I also think that it makes Apple’s WWDC 2011 iCloud music storage fee-based ($25/year) service look like yet another chump’s pocketful of small change - and a massive privacy problem, among being part of (likely) last scraps of Jobs’ legacy.

I’m an Apple fangirl, and I’m mad as hell. But that’s for my next post.

Google Music isn’t for shopping. The up-front isn’t built for selling or compulsive credit card commitment; it’s a tool to make music life easier without proprietary BS.

Music majors and grandma-suing BPI (British Recorded Music Industry) - whom Apple are negotiating with to make deals in Europe for iCloud 2012 - might just have to finally suck it up.

But selecting “Shop For Artist” takes you to a shopping portal. I wonder, will this be deviously developed - how deliciously strategic this could be - when the gates are open?

Sign-in to Google Music is a snap. Gmail authentication, then download the Music Manager. Chime in on my comments if you’re a paranoid spyware research dev and have something we should know about. Apple is clearly scanning all uploaded files.

Next, tell Goog Music what to scrape and upload to the cloud: it scrapes your iTunes, or any folders with music files in them. Anytime you request it.

I had just under 2,000 songs and files up in no time. And that was only my old Mac Mini; I am still adding from as many computers as I want. Good times.

After spending the past three weeks trying to get the right versions of iTunes and updates on my three different Apple computers with my iTunes account activated on them to sync so I didn’t have to erase my new iPod to add new songs that I had already purchased, this was a vacation.

I might be more tach savvy than your average family member, but with music - I’m really just a consumer and a lover.

Still, my new iPod is refused full access due to computer age, or older/not updated OS. I finally gave up trying to add my new music to my iPod (and having non-iTunes music rejected from newer iTunes versions)… No Born This Way allowed on my new iPod yet.

We Are All Fed Up With iTunes

As I write this, I’m listening to my “Thumbs Up Playlist” that contains Stevie Wonder’s “She’s A Bad Mamma Jamma” - which is not available in iTunes. Think about it.

Google Music felt like - yes. It should be this easy.

It got easier.

Google Music packs all my hundreds of albums, thousands of mashups, bootlegs, direct-sent files from music artists, and DJ gifts - into its cloud, of course. That means my music is now accessible, all of it, even my playlists created in iTunes were ported in. For use on anything with an Internet connection.

And when not connected, like today when I was on the subway, Goog Music Android App had temporarily cached my recently played music and favorites to my phone, so even offline while underground I had my music on my phone, uninterrupted. I made new playlists on the train to pass the time.

The Android and Apple Google Music apps are free, and one login with your Gmail gets you all your music.

I was also freakily pleased that it didn’t drain my battery as much as any given sucktacular Valley-startup Twitter app, and GM was really quite negligible in battery drainage. Someone did something smart.

Right now I’ve got my Droid phone sending my “thumbs up” playlist to my Zii Sound D5 via Bluetooth across my bedroom (from my bed), though I’ve been doing the same with my MacBook Air from the Google Music webpage for my account.

Meaning, I don’t need to use an app from any computer, just a browser.

All I want to do right now is share my Google Music playlists with my friends, in case anyone wants to let me be DJ while we geeks stay in on a Saturday night.

Top that, iCloud.

* UPDATE: After primary reports of 2K initial songs, Apple’s iCloud footnotes claims it will hold up to 25K songs for $24.99/year - requiring upgrade, and with limits. However, it also claims that uploading to Google Music takes “weeks” which is, as I have now experienced, untrue.

Image by Kevin Dooley, under Creative Commons 2.0 Generic license, via Flickr.

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FAULKNE 13th Oct
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Also want to add: In speculation/rumor on what Goog might charge (after 20K songs) - in Feb 2010 rumor was $25/year *pending* label negotiations as far as was known. However, labels appear to have put Apple negotiations first.

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@violetblue Sorry, but after blatently trashing all things Apple enough times, I stopped listening to anything you said. I don't know why ZDNet gave you this forum for your obviously biased opinions honestly. I'd appreciate an honest and unbiased (as much as anyone can) review of Google Music, but this ain't it.
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Nice review
dobba821992 12th Jun
I do think that this will be like every product google does : starts out as a normal " beta" thing, and then grows with NO limits
@dobba821992
I have ,ore gmail space than I know what to do with - several accounts depending on audience, googles of gigs.... grin
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@rhonin -- I don't see the connection...unless you're speaking of sending yourself one track attachment at a time. I would like some unraveling of your point,
@violetblue: "Top that, iCloud."

Except for Jobs' usual showmanship, this was more like a classic Microsoft press event where Ballmer proudly announces how their platform has finally copied a handful of popular features that were previously available on competing products. Apple even managed to screw over a bunch of their developers by stealing their ideas (in at least one case, an idea that had previously been banned from their App Store as unsuitable!). I understand that they diod nothing illegal, but still it's very reminiscent of how Microsoft does business.

Overall it was very disappointing and not just because there were no new hardware announcements. I kept waiting for a real home run app or a totally off the wall shift for the iOS platforms. Instead, I watched a loooong parade of "me too" apps that we've all seen before. Jobs can call them "great" or "amazing" all he likes, but it doesn't change the fact that Apple was playing catch up...and that's an unusual position for them especially in the mobile space. I would have been less surprised if they put Bill Gates' smiling face on the Jumbotron again.
@Justa Notherguy

Been doing this using iDisk on an iPhone since 2009 and on Macs since 2000.

Any music at all and video too.

You fail at the attempted history rewrite.
@Justa Notherguy
I'd tend to agree with you up until we hit Lion, a lot of which I thought was nice... then again; it could be said that a lot of the new features in Lion aren't exactly 'new'.
@Justa Notherguy Name 1 android phone that tops 1 model of iPhone. Name the #1 seller of music iTunes. The most popular portable media player, iPod.
Everyone since iPhone is playing catch up. Goole is credited with spam and malware on mobile devices and more security holes than Swiss cheese. It's a ***** of an os. Piracy and circumvention of law does not make it cool. Just because people feel contemp for the music industry doesn't mean there product should be free. People want a seamless, guilt free secure experience. Release the hate for apple and recognize apple is the top dog.
@rolandrich
Not knowing how to use "their" (vs "there") = argument credibility fail
@rolandrich / jeffsmallwood
In additon to Goole, and ***** (whatever that represents) contemp instead of contempt, all show a lack of spelling/typing/proofreading ability and vocabulary.
Who cares whether Apple is top dog or not, don't have a media player period, don't plan on getting one, so the whole question is moot. What ever happened to sharing between devices, friends, the old fashioned way--CD's, USB sticks, floppy disks anyone? etc. The cloud won't give me an ability to listen to my choices of music in my vehicle that doesn't have an input for a device, I would like a car radio to accept a DVD with MP3's or even a BluRay disk with MP3's or some other format. On a regular DVD one could put over 5 CD's worth of music. A BRD holds a lot more.
If one is in the mood to share a lot, DVD's are a lot more private than anyone's sharing service--untrackable w/o searching your house. I haven't walked around with music blaring since college when I had a 5 in Reel to Reel tape player running on 6 D cells. I on occasion, now, will listen to a radio program on my portable radio (2 AA Cells) (I remember when they used 9v batteries and were based on how many transistors were in the cicuit. I do not do this on a continuous basis--too much trouble to carry and don't want to use headphones or earphones.
Read a book/magazine/newspaper on your hosted commute, talk to your fellow travelling companions, listen to the radio on your drive to work...We have an excellent classical station here in OKC, or several talk show stations to choose from from politics to sports, or other formats from True Oldies to oldies to classic rock, to Margarita (From Sinatra to Buble), to Country, rockin Country, to old Country, Spanish, etc. I do listen to classical, for two reasons, it is better than what is on 90 % of the other stations and very few comercials, I get frustrated with 5 minutes of commercials, sometimes wanting to go back to the old days of commercials after every song, instead of 30 minutes of music, 10 minutes of commercials and news, then more music. I just switch channels, hoping for more music.
So I will not be taking advantage anytime soon of either or anyone else's version.
Violet... Do you remember the South Park Movie, where you get down to hell and there is Satan, being treated like dog-**** by his lover, Saddam Hussein? That's what Apple is doing to it's 'fan-girls'. You are being used by Bill Gates dumber, younger brother. Steve isn't the man any of us thought he was.....
@odysseus93 Another hater of seccess. Just because he wants to wear his eye patch and pirate costume.
@rolandrich

*success...
Well Violet, get rid of the iPod and iPhone then go get yourself an Android phone with unlimited internet and use your Google music on it.
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Numbers?
jaypeg 12th Jun
Um, make that 20K tunes on iCloud for $25, not 2K.

http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/
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msalzberg 12th Jun
@jaypeg

From footnote 2 on your link: "Limit 25,000 songs. iTunes purchases do not count against limit."
@msalzberg Exactly!

25,000 only relates to songs that you obtained "elsewhere," like Limewire, or other illegal means
@msalzberg That was one of the glaring misrepresentations that I notice from a supposed Apple Fan Girl. She also implies that the service costs $25/yr but in truth that is only the case if you choose to use the Match option.
Apple said and showed nothing about streaming music with their iTunes-in-the-Cloud or the vaporous iTunes-Match service. You must download all your music to your iPhone, your iPad, your MacBook etc. in order to listen to any of it. That just means you will have to buy bigger and bigger drives on those devices.

Consequently Google Music and Amazon Cloud Player are completely different products from iTunes-in-the-Cloud. Google Music is ONLY about streaming.

Apple brought up the comparison of the services in their presentation, but they really aren't at all comparable.
@rlawler

MobileMe subscribers have been able to upload and then stream music and video to iOS devices since 2009 using iDisk.

It was first introduced for Macs in 2000.
@bannedagain What is MobileMe?
@bannedagain
Who cares? wink
With Goog I like the fact I can stream to any device simply and easily with music I bought for the best price from whatever vendor had it for sale at the time...

There is a big diff of easy pay vs play easy so I can entice you to buy. Reciprocity is Apples weapon here. Makes me feel I'm car shopping with Apple sad
@Rhonin you can stream any music you upload to iDisk on any device, and you can also do the same with DropBox
@bannedagain As a MobileMe subscriber I have been wondering if there is going to be a web interface to iCloud which would allow you to stream music. If so that basically takes care of the only benefit Google Music has that I see.
@rlawler You don't have to download ALL your music to the device to listen to it, you download what you want on each device.
glad I found this. Heard about Google Music this morning, and found it easily. Love your site here; I've registered, and following via RSS. Sweet tides,
"We Are All Fed Up With iTunes"
I couldn't said it better myself... iTunes is like dog leash on a Greyhound.
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CowLauncher 12th Jun
Your article is so inaccurate in regards to iCloud you actually deserve Google Music.
@CowLauncher Yeah, there are a lot of inaccuracies.
"After spending the past three weeks trying to get the right versions of iTunes and updates on my three different Apple computers with my iTunes account activated on them to sync so I didnt have to erase my new iPod to add new songs that I had already purchased, this was a vacation."

You don't ever have to "erase" the iPod to add new songs from another computer. You just set iPod to connect manually on the "guest" computer, and from there you can just drag all the music and playlist you want to your iPod from iTunes.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1202

But their iCloud offering will make this much more seamless, finally. It will allow you to transfer or sync your collection between 10 devices and computers for just $24 yr (25,000 songs not 2k). And you don't have to spend weeks uploading to a music locker first (depending on size and bandwidth), Apple "matches" your music collection no matter where it's from with their 18 million + songs and offers it on all your iDevices in 256kbps DRM-FREE. They will upload those few that they don't have for you. A much more practical solution imo for the average than spending weeks uploading everything to a locker, where I have to stream it to my device (hoping there's no connection hiccup while listening).

Plus there's no way to purchase music from Google Music Beta, they were unable to secure deals with the labels before launching their beta. Who knows if they ever will. Apple has reportedly made deals with all four major music labels to make this all possible, and again seamless. I purchase music on one iDevice/computer and it automatically gets transfered or pushed/synced to all my other devices freely (or I can do so manually). I want to do the same with my current none iTunes collection? it's just $24 a year for up to 25,000 songs.

IDK, I think Apple did just what it needed to keep current iOS users happy, and to stay put with this cloud thing.
@dave95.
I think fundamentally they are offering very different things and I think the Icloud will work because it can hopefully take away some of the Itunes sync needs. Itunes is what has kept me out of Apple MP3 and while I love the selection of music on Itunes, I hate the software, sync process and proprietary connectors. That said, the service is really just a step away from backing your stuff up on an extra hard drive and transferring via USB(apple style).
Google is taking away for the need of local storage entirely.
Once again, I can just store stuff on a hard drive, but this way you can have small amounts of disk space and a lot of music. I don't think Google is going to try to sell music, and I could be wrong, but Googles business model doesn't really revolve around sold content (although the new Youtube model may change this). I like the idea though of separating my storage from purchases. That provides freedom and some people may like ot funnel their money into one company, I like to shop around.
I think you are correct in that this definitely offers enough for IOS users. I don't really see this as being an even competition, because they differ greatly in what problem they are trying to solve.
Everyone wins!
@nickmcel

Yes Google's cloud solution is the hard disk in the sky solution. Where the cloud takes precedence over local storage. You put all your content in the cloud and to access it you have to be connected to the net to stream it back down to your device.

Apple solution is the opposite; they're betting that user would prefer all the continued benefits of local/native with the the added benefits of cloud storage integration working in the background. You don't really see the hard disk in the sky with Apple , it's integrated tightly within their OS. Syncing not just music between all iOS devices and PCs but photos, Safari bookmarks, app content and game state data, calender, documents, and other data backups. And it's all done within the native apps, no need for the constraint of using web apps. Apple provides API for third party developers like Dropbox so they can also tap into iCloud storage and syncing.

I think in the near future as more and more companies offer cloud solutions, and more consumers get used to the cloud, such discussions of putting one against the other will die down.
@dave95. To your later comment/reply. Why pay someone $25 to transfer your PURCHASED music (Or other source) from one device to another? Do it yourself! That is what I don't understand. Pay $20 for a 16G USB and fill it and then go from device to device or load it on a computer and hook the device to it, and copy away. No security fears at all. No limits. Who can listen to 25K songs anyway? I quit listening to popular music back in the mid 70's about the time that Disco and Metallic rock came out, so my history is incomplete. After the Rolling Stones/Boxtops/Beach Boys/Lovin' Spoonfull/Hugh Masakela/Creedence Clearwater Revival/Nancy Sinatra/Bread/Pet Clark/Herman's Hermits/Doors/Beatles/Monkeys/Grass Roots/etc. No one could do better. I haven't even heard of the SW song she mentioned. I have heard of him, but not the song.
Do it yourself, save $25/year! For the price of four years ($100) you could have five 16G USB sticks full of portable music. Or a much larger one. Or spend your $25/year on something more important.
Not technically inclined? Learn!
Just like someone else said $100/ mo is $1200 per year on phone service, wired or wireless, for both that is $2400 for phone and internet and our wirelss service for three phones is more like $150/mo or $1800/year, but yet we pay it for the convenience!
I guess that is the $25/year--convenience. It all adds up in the end.
@dhays You don't have to pay $25/yr, it's an option.
Not trying to down iTunes in the Cloud. But the only downer to me is the lock in with Apple products for it.

Google Music, only in beta, does far more and it's just as effortless and it ties in with not just Google services, but Apple's also.

i.e. You upload all your current music. You're done. You have that music available on your Android device and browser enabled PC/Mac. Now...lets say you buy a new song from iTunes. What do you have to do in order to get that on those devices? Nothing. Since the Music Manager is set to automatically sync any changes in iTunes to Google Music, your just added a new song with no button presses beyond purchasing the music (or if you have it set to sync hourly or manually). Now lets say you just ripped a new CD and it's sitting nicely in your iTunes? What do you do then? Nothing again. For free (currently of course. We know not what services will be after beta) it takes those songs and adds it into Google Music...without any action from the user once again.

So now you have a music collection that takes no effort to add to and sync across devices. And it ties into the iTunes store brilliantly without even being apart of the iTunes ecosystem.

Like I said in the beginning, this isn't to down iCloud's iTunes abilities. But to show that Google Music isn't as "complex" as everyone is trying to make it be compared to Apple's "intuitive" iTunes in the Cloud.
@iDavey

Does it do video?

Does it allow you to stream without having to upload gigabytes of files first?

Is it available outside the US?
@bannedagain This is why it's called BETA .This is like all other google products : They start with a normal platform, and keep it in beta for a while, constantly improving it until it grows into something great, just like Android and Google TV which is starting to gain traction
@bannedagain
Does is allow you to stream?
Does it allow you to watch video without downloading gigabytes of files first?
Wait, what was the point of this questioning?
Are you angry posting or curious enough to post without being curious enough to sign up for the free beta.
@iDavey Part of what you've described sounds exactly like iTunes new services. You purchase once, from any device, and it OS automatically made available from any of your other devices--with no action on your part.

Lose all your devices and start again with one device or computer? iTunes now let's you download any or all of it again, by keeping a record of any purchases and making it available to simply re-download.
@iDavey iCloud is not locked into only Apple products and everything else you mentioned iCloud does as well. Not knocking Google Music, just pointing out the facts. There is room for both as one size does not fit all.
We're sorry. Music Beta is currently only available in the United States sad
"I should also add that Apple?s $24.99/year iCloud music service holds up to 20,000 songs, only after compelling the user to a paid upgrade."

Er, no. iTunes in the Cloud is free. If you buy music from iTunes it gets pushed to all your devices. Same for apps, books, video. All your app data gets synchronised as well. It all happens automatically without user intervention. I don't know what this "paid upgrade" is you mention.

You may be confused with iTunes Match which does cost money...? Most people buy from iTunes so won't need to use this.
I'll skip all the problems that come with streaming music, and keep my PMP, TYVM. happy
Just wondering if you've tried out megabox, its a similar music streaming service where you basically just upload your own. Only downside is that I don't believe there are any mobile apps for it. Guess it'll have to do till google gets out of beta.
When you complain about Apple collecting data, have you considered the many Google privacy and security sins recently exposed. And, how does streaming from Google help on your old iPod? Or for that matter on anything that isn't connected to WiFi when you want to listen?
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Umm, can Apple do this...
jivester 13th Jun
My wife and I both have a Google Music account. Combined we have close to 36000 songs uploaded (took two weekends). One is all my live shows and one is for studio albums. Both of us have an Android with both of our google accounts linked. We sync books, docs, photos and music for shared access. Although Google Music won't sync both accounts at the same time, we can go back and forth between the two accounts with the press of a button. This kind of freedom with my data is why I love Google.
Turns out Google Music works fine on Safari from my iPad2. Take that, Apple.
@4dthinker

How exactly does this hurt Apple? They make their money from selling you the iPad (hardware). If Google music works on the iPad, then all the better. They also let others like Amazon and B&N offer their competing e-book service. Subscription service like Napster, Rhapsody also compete in their stores.
Only two comments to add

1. You failed to mention that for your 25.00 fee for iTunes iCloud you can make all of your ripped music legal with a bit rate of 256.
2. Any music purchased on iTunes does Not count toward your max storage number.

I don't know about anyone else out there, but if I have 10,000 ripped songs plus whatever I have purchased from iTunes, that seems to be worth 25.00 bucks/yr.
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