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Great Debate postmortem: Kindle Fire vs. iPad

By | December 3, 2011, 12:51am PST

Summary: ZDNet Great Debate put Amazon Kindle Fire vs. Apple iPad: Violet Blue picks Fire for the top holiday tablet.

Last Tuesday’s ZDNet Great Debate pitted Amazon’s new Kindle Fire against Apple’s iPad in a tablet-on-tablet fight to the finish for which slab would be this holiday’s best pick for gadget gifting.

I didn’t really expect that I’d be the girl in the Kindle Fire camp - not at least until I got one in my hot little hands. And after watching my colleagues take their Fires out for some revealing road testing where the Fire stayed Internet-speedy when everyone else choked thanks to Amazon’s cloud.

Strong motivation was that when I’d talk to friends (and even strangers) about gifty gadgets for this year’s sweet surprises, so many of them were wondering which tablet they should pick.

If you know the tablet genre, you’re already on the up and up that these tabs are wholly different beasts. But that’s not how general consumers seem to see it. Just look at Nook’s current competitive holiday commercials on TV right now (if you’re in the US, anyway) and you’ll undertand what I mean.

As illustrated in the tough debate, the Fire has a world of fun and practicality going for it. In fact, looking over the arguments, the Fire makes the iPad look stalwart and a bit crotchety - maybe even like it’s not for, erm, younger generations.

The Kindle Fire is rugged. It is not made for flouncy, delicate-handed white-gloved folks that maybe don’t code as much anymore but love feeling productive on a big pricey dinner plate. Or those that prefer newspapers and magazines carefully screened to exclude any so-called offensive content through the Apple app store.

I’m a Silicon Valley and San Francisco native, and that’s probably why I think the Kindle Fire is a bit more Barbary Coast WIld West than Cupertino. Censor or screen my media? Take your ball and go home, chump.

Kids like me have tech and openness in our DNA, and we need our gadgets to keep up with us. That means high expectations for entertainment and functionality, an open platform ethos (Fire is Android Gingerbread), freedom of choice, and something that can take a few knocks.

As I pointed out in the debate, UK based Books4fun got a Fire and then proceeded to attack it. Despite the Samsonite-like torture, it was flawless even after he stabbed the screen with a screwdriver and a woodworking tool. He also dropped it from three feet onto a stone floor and it was just fine; it kept playing the music video he was streaming.

He then tried an angled drop from six feet and it was unscathed. He finally damaged the Fire when he did a flat-face drop from from six feet; the deliberate drop cracked the internal LCD but not the gorilla glass.

You can see his video of the tests on YouTube: Kindle Fire Gorilla Glass Drop and Scratch Test.

What I’m saying is, an iPad isn’t as much for superusers as it seems. Those of us that bang our tech around are really using it. The iPad isn’t a work device if you are a high-output creative content maker. Ever try and write 5,000 words on one? Talk to any author about it (like me). For that, you need to add a bluetooth keyboard and then you might as well be back on your PC or like me, on my superlative MacBook Air.

There’s just no way for us workers to get needed screen real estate on any tablet without a workaround: obviously Amazon realized this and focused on what tablets are actually great for. Watching videos, checking in with social, playing games, reading cool stuff, shopping, and surfing.

And unlike recent issues with spyware trackers like CarrierIQ, privacy-minded surfers can easily turn off the Fire’s Silk browser cloud function for privacy.

This season, lots of people will be wondering which one to pick. I think that except for people in the SV bubble, few people can afford to make a bad choice.

And Amazon is making it very desirable for its Prime customers. Prime peeps get all kinds of goodness for free.

What if Apple had a version of Prime, and for a reasonable flat fee (Amazon’s $79) you could have thousands of movies and TV shows in iTunes streamed for free? (This is what Prime offers free on the Fire.)

Or a paid app a day - and not the cheap ones, either?

Apple doesn’t.

Oh how I wish they did.

Families will certainly pick the Fire because it’s inexpensive, scratch-proof, drop-proof and kids really love it. And, if they talk to anyone with a Fire (like me) I can say they won’t regret the $199. Or the nice cases already available.

At $199, the Kindle Fire is the clear winner. You can get two for the price of one iPad and it doesn’t ever feel like you’re settling for less. The Fire is $300 cheaper than the entry-level iPad and $630 less expensive than the 64GB model with 3G.

I’m a serious and longtime Apple user. So it really surprised me when I got the Kindle Fire and found myself diving into it deeper and faster than my first iPad encounter. And I should disclose that the second time I touched an iPad I accidentally scratched it by nudging it - simultaneously ruining a gadget and a friendship.

The Fire?

Unscratchable, like every friendship should be.

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Violet Blue is a Forbes Web Celeb, SF Appeal contributor, a high-profile tech personality and one of Wired's Faces of Innovation.

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Violet Blue

I am currently freelancing part-time (only) for ReadWriteWeb for their general news blog and their Start (startup tools) channel; this was made in agreement that I would not write about anything that might conflict subjects in my blog (no sex content). I'm under contract to publisher Cleis Press for editing three more books (only) with the topics of women's/couples' erotica. I have been writing and editing books for Cleis Press for ten years on the subjects of erotica and human sexuality (guidebooks). I'm not under exclusive contract anywhere/to anyone/to anything, I have no investments.

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Violet Blue

Violet Blue (tinynibbles.com, @violetblue) is a Forbes Web Celeb, SF Appeal contributor, a high-profile tech personality and one of Wired's Faces of Innovation. She is regarded as the foremost expert in the field of sex and technology, a sex-positive pundit in mainstream media (MacLife, Forbes.com, The Oprah Winfrey Show, others) and is regularly interviewed, quoted and featured prominently by major media outlets (from ABC News to the Wall Street Journal). A published feature writer and columnist, Violet also has many award-winning, best-selling books; her books are featured on Oprah's website. She was the notorious sex columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle. She headlines at conferences ranging from ETech, LeWeb and SXSW: Interactive, to Google Tech Talks at Google, Inc. The London Times named Blue one of the 40 bloggers who really count.
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Gorilla glass!!!
etphonehome750@... 22nd Jan
First off Apple is the reason Gorilla glass is being made today! It's on the iPhone, iPods and iPads!!! So if your so tech savvy you might want to look up the history of Gorilla glass before you start blasting Apple. "Due to customer nondisclosure agreements, Corning cannot name all the devices that use Gorilla Glass -- including Apple products. But according to multiple other sources, including Walter Isaacson's recent biography of Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, the product's first consumer application was the original iPhone in 2007." per www.cnn.com/2012/01/10/tech/gaming-gadgets/gorilla-glass-ces/index.html
... "target groups", so to speak.

These who eyed iPad would hardly buy Kindle Fire since it is much lesser device in many ways.

And these who thought that paying $500 for iPad is too much and did not care would only look at Kindle Fire anyway since these $200 is maximum financial/psychological barrier until which they can even think of considering buying a tablet.

So "Kindle Fire versus iPad" makes much less sense than "Kindle Fire versus non-iPad tablets", many of which cheaper than iPad, too (especially 7"-sized devices).
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"much less"?
daboochmeister 5th Dec
@dderss - of course it's a personal use case thing ... but I think that the vast vast majority of people wouldn't find that to be true, "much less".

In a few years, when video calls are a norm, that wouldn't be true ... that's the one use case that WILL be generally applicable that differentiates them, imho ... but by then, even the very low end tablets will have reasonable front-facing cameras and mics (I'd be surprised if the 2nd version of the Kindle Fire doesn't have both, even if it doesn't have a back camera).

Of course, I'm just stating my opinion, just like you happy
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nonsense
bannedfromzdnetagainandagain 5th Dec
@dderss
lady gaga here managed to post one of the most ridiculous posts on zdnet in a long time and that says something. there is not one coherent thought in this drivel. ipad vs. fire. sure there are some good arguments to make, but she isn't able to make one of them. just bs. zdnet where have your editors gone?
@bannedfromzdnetagainandagain
Much like your 3rd grade teacher would say...how? why? Can you give a concrete example? Otherwise you mind as well get a D+ for your book report that says "I like this book, it was interesting. the end'.
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Simple as
johnfenjackson@... Updated - 3rd Dec
Seems straightforward enough:
Fire
AIR (or maybe Ultrabook)
Windows Workstation
Free(or cheap) public cloud app. + DIY private cloud
Why do some ZDNET bloggers make the choice appear so difficult? (Present company excepted.)

" ... for flouncy, delicate-handed white-gloved folks that maybe dont code as much anymore but love feeling productive on a big pricey dinner plate."
Now that's what I call a scratch!

HAND
Let me get this straight. She's raving about a smaller device that doesn't scratch. Is that the complete gist of her arguments? Really? Really?!? Last I checked a larger screen is a plus for the iPad, not a minus. Last I checked there are a ton a very good screen protectors you can put on any tablet that will protect it quite well thank you very much. Movies and content? Netflix blows Amazon Prime out of the water. Apps? Puhleeze, that's all I've got to say. She knocks the iPad because it doesn't have a keyboard? Show me the keyboard on the Fire. Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? I'm sorry, this is one case where I had to speak up because her arguments just make no sense whatsoever. I've heard plenty of good arguments for getting a Kindle Fire over an iPad, and I've heard plenty for the reverse as well. Her arguments make zero sense and I find it ridiculous that someone would be providing a venue for her article to be counted as a legitimate source or opinion on which people will be basing their purchases. "It's seeeexy!" Oh? Well, then I simply MUST buy it! Again, I say Really?!?
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@stan@...

A fact that wasn't mentioned in the article is that the Fire also streams Netflix and Hulu Plus in addition to the Amazon Prime library. I think Violet Blue was just comparing the Amazon Prime offering directly to the iTunes offering.

As for the keyboard statement - the way I understood her angle, it was that if she's going to do real work, she would do it on her computer, so spending more money on an iPad to do things beyond what the Fire could do didn't make sense.

I agree with her on that point. I have an iPad and a Fire. However, since I received my Fire, I've been using it almost exclusively. I credit this primarily to the Fire's size/portability, durability, and access to Amazon content. It's just so easy to throw the Fire in my bag and go.
@cobradeathmatch
Funny. I remember when the iPad was new there were many people saying it was so easy to throw it in their bag and go, as compared to a laptop. Well, my phone does everything the iPad and Fire do plus much more and I can throw it on my waist and go! So there. Tablets are totally unnecessary. People just love getting the latest thing and it's as simple as that.
@cobradeathmatch: I have an iPad and a Sony eBook Reader and the Sony gets used exclusively for reading... when I am answering the call of nature.

I now refer to it as my "toilet device".
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@cobradeathmatch
Well written and I concur.
@lippidp Technically smartphones or even cell phones all together are unnecessary so what is your point?
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@cobradeathmatch If that's the case, you would find the BlackBerry Playbook as easy to take with you and will do so much more.
@stan@...

The Kindle Fire has a Netflix app that works perfectly well. And the number of apps you can install on the Kindle Fire is impressive, even without rooting it and installing the Android Market. As for the screen size, it's not as clear a picture as you seem to believe. Not everyone (myself included) wants to carry around a 10" device, no matter how thin it is.

If money is no object to you, the $500+ iPad will definitely buy you better hardware than the $200 Kindle Fire, but it's not about better hardware for everyone. Some people don't want to pay for the bells and whistles because they won't use them.
@bhartman36

Quite true.. If they wanted better hardware for the same price as the low end iPad they may look at the ASUS Prime coming to market on Dec.15.. Cost $499 for twice the memory, more ports and better processor.
@bhartman36 Since when does spending $500 on a device even remotely mean that money is no object to somebody? You would have a case if they were pretty much the same hardware wise but priced the same as they are now but of course that is not the case. The iPad has more to offer than the Fire well above and beyond bells and whistles let alone you have nothing to back up your claim they won't use them anyway. They both have their place and neither are really in the others market. I personally see the Fire as a great companion to the iPad and my wife is getting one to go along with her iPad for Christmas. I have used a Fire and for my use I can say the extra money for the iPad and its "bells and whistles" are more than worth it. Of course my use or financial thresholds do not apply to anybody else nor do yours.
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Yes, how dare they
garyleroy@... 5th Dec
@stan@... How dare they allow a dedicated Apple buff to like something not made by Apple; Apple should sue, after all they've spent years raising a generation of blinded devotees who willingly obey Apple's every whim and direction. And to allow that on a forum? Disgusting.

Don't worry, Apple is not the evil demon that they depicted Microsoft to be; they'll do what's right and sue everybody they can in hopes of eliminating any competition that has the nerve to challenge their dominance.

Of course bigger is better, that's why people carry these things instead of using a desktop; a small screen device can't adequately display the glowing Apple logo which of course tells everyone around what a dor...er, what an intelligent free-thinking individualist the owner is.
@garyleroy@... And there's not a bit of sarcasim in your response. Gee, I'm surprised at your response since you love Apple so much. You probably get up every morning and think "WOW, it's a sunshiny day with Apple in my life. What can I do to make them more money. I do want to love them and squeeze them and take them home."
I just wasted the last 2 minutes of my life making a useless point like you.
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@garyleroy@... BTW, are you just as negative toward MS for being the dominant OS or is it just limited to Apple bashing only.
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@rpollard You probably get up every morning and think "WOW, it's a sunshiny day with Apple in my life. What can I do to make them more money. I do want to love them and squeeze them and take them home."

Every damned day! I think about Apple every second of every day - I hate to to go sleep because that means my Apple device can no longer be strapped to my hip.../sarcasm Why is it you die hard ABAers like to make this claim? Is it because this is how you feel about Microsoft or Google depending on your religion of choice?

BTW, are you just as negative toward MS for being the dominant OS or is it just limited to Apple bashing only.


Ahhh it's Microsoft then. That explains much.

I just wasted the last 2 minutes of my life making a useless point like you.


Did you mean to make garyleroy a "point" or to make a point to him? Dude if you are going to be a snarky insulting smarmy troll at least use the fraking spell check.

I have a question for you there sport: Is anyone who disagrees with your stance on Apple some sort of Apple worshiping frothing at the mouth zealot? And is anyone who loves Microsoft a member of your flock? What do you call yourselves anyhow Ballmerites? Ballmerbuddies?

What happened to using tech as a tool rather than a religion? Sure I have an iPhone but I also have an Android based smartphone, a Nook Color, a Dell XPS running Windows 7, and an HP Pavilion running Windows 7 - they all do what I need them to do when I need them. But I guess that makes me a blasphemer in the Churches of Apple, Microsoft, and Google because I use all tech and must be excommunicated from them. Somehow I think I'll be okay with that...
@garyleroy@... I see you are working your way down the small minded haters talking point list. Try having a thought for yourself next time especially since you accuse Apple fans of blindly following.
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@stan@... I thought her arguments made sense in the context that she was using anything possible to justify her opinion and that's it.
I agree that "Fire vs. iPad" is NOT, in any way, a good or valid comparison. To be sure, the Fire is for a different demographic; and it actually contains some things that the iPad does NOT (the much-touted 'Gorilla glass' for one thing - and, whether or not you realize it, this is HUGE - it is almost 'un-scratchable' and, overall, incredibly durable); and the iPad contains a number of things the Fire doesn't: Superb general browsing, 10-inch screen, etc.

When a 10-inch Fire ("FireStorm" might be a good name for it) comes out, for just a $100 more (i.e. $299), THEN you might come back and have somewhat more of a basis for comparison.

Fire also has the entire Android market, which is more open than Apple's marketplace; but, in being more open, extreme caution must be used to avoid any security pitfalls; whereas, Apple's closed architecture does offer a bit more of an inherent feel of being more secure.

So, to put a true 'kink' in iPad's armor, I think Amazon must produce a 10-inch Fire, and then we can watch Apple scramble to push the iPad prices down further (their bottom iPad model is $499 [$500]).

I like both devices. I am a techo-geek, and I have to support ALL flavors of operating systems, tablets, servers, desktops, multimedia centers, etc.; so I try to remain as unbiased as possible, while also not being afraid to voice my own opinion.

I do lean toward the Fire as an outstanding entry-level tablet, with enough features to make anyone's holiday a happy one - so, don't be afraid to order one for your family and friends.

The same goes for the iPad - it's interface and overall experience and level of techological innovation (Apple's own A4 chipset, multi-touch and more) are impressive; if you can afford the price-points, don't hesitate to buy one.

I, for one, hope that this level of technological innovation and freshness continues to grow, and that the competition in the marketplace continues to heat up.

Happy Holidays to All!
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@bitdoctor

I thought Apple used Gorilla glass for all their iOS devices. Oh well.

As for getting the entire Android Market, that's not quite true since it directs to Amazon's App Market by default and the device is limited in the hardware it supports thus narrowing the Android Apps that will run successfully on it.

True that Amazon will probably do well with a 10" version of their Fire, but in the near term I expect iPad to be hit on the low end by devices like the Nook Tablet/Color and the Amazon Fire; and on the higher end by current and future versions the Samsung Galaxy and the ASUS Transformer (original and Prime).
@Xennex Agreed! My understanding is that it's not so easy to root the Fire or the Nook Tablet. And, both are built strictly for each eco-system to boost their post sale revenue. I don't see where it's "open" since as you mentioned they don't have full Android app compatibility and it's not going to be easy to root.
@bitdoctor - Fire goes to the Amazon market, not Android ... anyone seen any analysis of whether Amazon is reviewing apps and making their market a bit less wild-wild-west? I would think they would, since the quality of the market reflects more immediately on them than the Android market does on Google.
@daboochmeister - Someday I'd like to see a breakdown of tablet/phone users, based on whether they use the iPad/iPhone, or an Android tablet/phone. I'm willing to bet the Apple users will skew to the political left, and the Android users will skew to the political right. Not, y'know, a lot, but a noticeable amount. Because, it's been my experience, that those on the political left tend to like authoritarianism, where responsibility is removed from them as far as possible, and those on the political right tend to like self-reliance and self-determination.
Translation: those on the right tend to like the freedom and opportunity of the "wild-wild-west" and those on the left tend to dislike it.
Personally, I like to be the one who chooses which apps I can put on my device. Reviews exist to help me decide what is crapware and what isn't, I don't need the manufacturer of my device to decide for me, without my knowledge.
@bitdoctor
Yeppers, I completely agree -with one exception. As long as you don't change the default setting "Allow Installation of Applications From Unknown Sources", your Fire (or other Android) can also enjoy that "inherent feel of being more secure". As a technical person I have changed this setting, since it lets me have more fun with my device. I just love options =). On the other hand, I'm not going to root my Fire. It just strikes me as being the same as running Windows (or OS X for that matter) with your admin credentials all the time...
@bitdoctor - The Fire DOES NOT have access to the entire Android Market, unless you Root it. As sold it only has access to the Amazon app market.
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Until it ships worldwide and has an app and mp3 store available for non-US people I can't see it replacing the iPad globally...maybe in the US but it's not available anywhere else
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One small sample
itpro_z 3rd Dec
I talked to one lady at work who had just received her Fire. She loved it, and immediately ordered three more for her kids. The same day, one of our attorneys asked for our help in connecting his new Fire to our mail server. Since a good number of our employees have Kindle ereaders, I expect to see many more Fires after Christmas.

I also paid a visit to our local Office Max store to pick up a new router. While there, I noticed that they had the Fire (along with the other Kindles and Nooks) on display, so I asked the sales clerk at checkout if they actually had the Fire in stock. He replied that they indeed had them available, but stated that the Fire was selling fast, so he could not guaranty availability. Based on this small sample, my conclusion is that Amazon has a winner on their hands.
The low selling price is going to send a lot of Fires out the door. A CNN Newstech article I read this morning suggests that the return rate on these is going to quite high. If people are expecting the Fire to compare to an iPad then they are going to be very unhappy. Imagine that kid that was hoping and praying for an iPad this Christmas and opens up one of these...
@CowLauncher

As much as I love my Kindle Fire, I think the scenario with the disappointed kid at Christmas is bound to happen. If a kid asks for the iPad, they're not going to be satisfied with anything but the iPad. Kids are like that.

However, I don't think adults will have the same reaction. What do most people do with tablets? Web surfing, e-mail, Angry Birds and the like. The Kindle Fire can do all of that. Someone more technically oriented might want more than that, but that type of person would know already that the Kindle Fire isn't for them, because they would read the reviews and know the specs.
@bhartman36 I still haven't seen what you mean. What can you do on the ipad "technically" that you cannot do on a Amazon or B&N tablet? Are you talking about the range of apps available? Won't that change soon anyway?
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@MrGranger - we don't own an iPad, but I have been amazed at how much time my 11 year old spends on his Nintendo DSi with the camera and sound recording - warping pictures and audio, etc. For a kid, in my mind, that's the one big differentiator right now, audio/pic/vid apps.

But ... you can get a pretty sweet set of add'l gear for that, for much less than the $300 delta.
@bhartman36
Exactly! And this is why the dissappointed kid analogy don't hold up. Kids are not stupid, just selfish!! However, kids understands economics as well if not better than adults. If you put the conversation in the either or vain, they will make the right choices!! Kids understand that given a choice between either/or, either is better than none! Most kids do the same things that grown-up do on tablets; surf, watch videos, listen to music, and chat. Even an unwise kid know you don't need an ipad for those actitivities. Just saying!!
The kindle is a good choice for anyone who just want to use tablet for watching videos, checking in with social, playing games, reading cool stuff, shopping, and surfing.

However for people like me who use tablets for work and school, the IPad2 is the best option. I have the opportunity to test most tablets in the market and so far, the IPad2 is the best in overall performance.

Nevertheless, Kindle and even the Nook tablets are good investments if you do not want to spend more than $300.00 on these type of devices. It is good to see competitors in the market creating good products. At the end, we all benefit from this.

In my opinion, the IPad2 is the clear winner for its performance.
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@x7Samurai In your school and work, what do you use the iPad for that isn't possible on the other tablets? Are you talking about the 3rd party keyboard attachments? Is it something that is impossible to to do on the Fire or Nook, or just hasn't come out yet?

Everyone is so vague about the work that they can only do on the iPad. Can you be specific?
@MrGranger @ there were 2 things that I wanted in a tablet that I was having a hard time finding for android. The functionality was a) a media reader that I could store and read all of my documents (pdf, .xls, .doc, .ppt, .html). b) Stylus support so that I could write notes like I do in a notebook. I found Goodreader for my docs and notetaker HD for a notebook. They have been a real life saver. I use them both a lot every day. Entertainment was really an afterthought for me.
@MrGranger Without even having to use more than a single brain cell it's obvious that the hardware specs of the iPad give it an advantage in some tasks let alone where cameras are involved the Fire can't even consider doing it. Then you get into screen size and where the larger screen is an advantage. Are any of these or even some an issue for everyone, of course they aren't. Does this make the iPad an overall better device for everyone, of course not. Neither device is perfect for everyone so some with find one to be better than the other regardless of price. There is NO perfect device for everyone out there, that's the bottom line.
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As someone who hasn't gotten in on the tablet market, I don't understand those who claim the "These who eyed iPad would hardly buy Kindle Fire since it is much lesser device in many ways." Besides the memory limitations, smaller screen size, lack of camera, and no GPS; what exactly is the iPad missing? I don't care about the GPS or camera, I like the smaller size, and can deal with the memory issues since I'm not going to be putting HD films on it. So it seems in my case the Fire is a better choice than the iPad. Am I missing something else? I did try the iPad for writing at a friend's home, but it's very slow. A cheap Alphasmart is better than the iPad if you want to actually write.
@MrGranger You are trying to get into a debate about what is better for you. Nobody but you can determine what is the better device for you. If the limitations of the Fire are not a hindrance than it's the obvious choice based on price.
You got done over by Macalope over at Macworld... deservedly so.
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Useless to compare...
grillomalta@... 5th Dec
Comparing these two devices is both unproductive and useless. One is 7inch, the other is almost 10inch. Both have great apps, and both can stream audio, video, and whatnots.... why can't we just enjoy both?

And anyway, the Fire is for the US only.... so that rules it out for us Europeans...
I still don't get it since the Fire is so small you might as well stick witn an Android trojan magnet that you all ready have or go bigger and get an ipad or larger android tablet. I'm not liking the Prime reference since prime is expensive-it's not 'free' lol. I guess it's preference. Amazing how many rich people there are out there bragging about how many tablets they have or are going to buy this year.
@mlbslugger I am amazed how many people talk about all the "rich" people when having a discussion about $600 and below tablets, even if they have multiple. Since when is somebody rich if they can afford multiple $500 items. It's not like we are talking about houses or cars here.
You should read all the bad reviews on Amazon site and the number of units being returned!! One of your fellow contributors posted the article.
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Sorry Violet Blue (I see your photo- stuck in the 80's are we?). I own an Air, an iPad 2, and a Fire. If I had to loose one, it's a no brainer......bye, bye, Fire. not worth the time to tell you all the reasons why, I just want to toss in my vote.
Rick Broida, CNET's Cheapskate, carries a refurbished 7" Color Nook bought for less than $120 and which has been rooted to Android for $30 more (all legal). I handled the machine and it is an excellent, small, mobile device that gives you all the functionality of any Android app available. Bonus: Barnes and Noble warranties refurbished Color Nooks for 1 YEAR.
@fosterbraun Not to compare but Apple also warrants refurbished iPads for a year.
And if so, why? Most bloggers I've read conclude that Nook and Fire and fairly closely matched, each with particular strengths and weaknesses, with the "best" determined by the particular needs/desires of the user.
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Gorilla glass!!!
etphonehome750@... 22nd Jan
First off Apple is the reason Gorilla glass is being made today! It's on the iPhone, iPods and iPads!!! So if your so tech savvy you might want to look up the history of Gorilla glass before you start blasting Apple. "Due to customer nondisclosure agreements, Corning cannot name all the devices that use Gorilla Glass -- including Apple products. But according to multiple other sources, including Walter Isaacson's recent biography of Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, the product's first consumer application was the original iPhone in 2007." per www.cnn.com/2012/01/10/tech/gaming-gadgets/gorilla-glass-ces/index.html

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