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The Lost iPhone 5: More Questions Than Answers - UPDATED

By | September 4, 2011, 11:48pm PDT

Summary: Questions loom about SF police and Apple’s search of a man’s home for an iPhone 5 prototype.

UPDATE 09/07/11: San Francisco Police have begun looking into what role officers played in a search by Apple for a missing unreleased iPhone. Police did, in fact, threaten Sergio Calderón that they would come back with a search warrant if he did not consent to a search, then instead allowed Apple employees to search his house. Lt. Troy Dangerfield, of the San Francisco Police Department, told CNET today that an internal investigation has begun into determining how officers assisted two Apple security employees in their search.

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Conflicting statements from the SFPD started last Wednesday after CNet reported that Apple had lost an iPhone prototype in a San Francisco tequila bar - in July - and Apple had searched a man’s home with local police officers.

San Francisco police responded to the news saying they had no knowledge of their involvement in a search of a local man’s home for the lost phone.

Many then thought Apple employees had impersonated police - including even the police themselves.

But one day after the searched man contacted a local blog with his side of the story, the SFPD admitted assisting Apple in pointlessly searching the San Francisco resident’s house, car - and his computer.

Were the San Francisco police no more than Apple’s muscle?

CNet first revealed that according to a source close to the investigation, San Francisco police investigators working with Apple personnel traced the phone to the home of a man who said he didn’t have it, nor did he know anything about it. The phone was not found.

This reminded everyone of the iPhone 4 prototype left in a Redwood City German beer bar and sold to Gizmodo last year. That time, Apple contacted San Mateo police and obtained a warrant within hours, and Gizmodo Editor Jason Chen (corrected) arrived home to find his property being searched and seized. Without him present, they took four computers and two servers. The items were returned when a judge found the warrant-backed search to be illegal and withdrew the warrant.

San Mateo might be in Apple’s backyard, but here in San Francisco this time things went quite a bit differently - much less smoothly.

When CNet reported that the lost prototype had been traced to SF’s sleepy Bernal Heights neighborhood, local blog SF Weekly got on the phone to ask the SFPD what was going on. SFPD spokesman Officer Albie Esparza told the Weekly that it wasn’t true: no records existed of SFPD officers doing anything of the sort.

At the same time, the man whose house had been searched saw the article in SF Weekly and instantly recognized himself as the subject of the story - and finally had a lead on who had searched his house and threatened his family last July. SF Weekly reported,

“They threatened me,” he said during an interview at his house. “We don’t know anything about it, still, to this day.”

Calderón said that at about 6 p.m. six people - four men and two women - wearing badges of some kind showed up at his door. “They said, ‘Hey, Sergio, we’re from the San Francisco Police Department.’” He said they asked him whether he had been at Cava 22 over the weekend (he had) and told him that they had traced a lost iPhone to his home using GPS.

At no point, he said, did any of the visitors say they were working on behalf of Apple or say they were looking for an iPhone 5 prototype.

Calderón, an American citizen who lives with multiple generations of family members, all of whom he said are staying in the U.S. legally, said one of the men also threatened his relatives about their immigration status. “One of the officers is like, ‘Is everyone in this house an American citizen?’ They said we were all going to get into trouble.’”

Anxious to cooperate, Calderón said, he let them search his car and house. He also gave them access to his computer, to see whether he had linked the phone to his hard drive or had information about it in his files. Failing to find the phone anywhere, he said one of the “officers” offered him $300 if he would return it.

The six strangers Calderón thought were police officers left a number for him to call if he had information about the lost phone.

SF Weekly called the number and discovered that it was the direct number for Apple employee Anthony “Tony” Colon, who refused to comment.

It was Friday morning. Upon presenting this news to the San Francisco Police Department spokesman Lt. Troy Dangerfield told SF Weekly that this would definitely need to be investigated, and Calderón needed to contact them directly. Dangerfield seemed alarmed by the news and said, “We take people representing themselves as police officers very seriously.”

This led many people to speculate that Apple employees had impersonated San Francisco Police Officers.

It was at this time that Apple’s Senior Investigator Anthony Colon - a retired San Jose Police Sergeant of 26 years - took down his LinkedIn and Facebook pages. Of course, every tech site reporting on the matter instantly grabbed copies of both pages from caches.

If you want to see it for yourself, here are SF Weekly’s copies of Colon’s Facebook page and his LinkedIn page (cache is still here). As an aside, the people Colon had endorsed on LinkedIn were former San Jose PD colleagues Michael Ross and Mikael Niehoff.

But by Friday afternoon SFPD’s Lt. Troy Dangerfield then told SF Weekly a completely different story. The Weekly related,

Contradicting past statements that no records exist of police involvement in the search for the lost prototype, San Francisco Police Department spokesman Lt. Troy Dangerfield now tells SF Weekly that “three or four” SFPD officers accompanied two Apple security officials in an unusual search of a Bernal Heights man’s home.

Dangerfield says that, after conferring with Apple and the captain of the Ingleside police station, he has learned that plainclothes SFPD officers went with private Apple detectives to the home of Sergio Calderón, a 22-year-old resident of Bernal Heights. According to Dangerfield, the officers “did not go inside the house,” but stood outside while the Apple employees scoured Calderón’s home, car, and computer files for any trace of the lost iPhone 5.

(…) “Apple came to us saying that they were looking for a lost item, and some plainclothes officers responded out to the house with them,” Dangerfield said. “My understanding is that they stood outside.” He added, “They just assisted Apple to the address.”

Calderón had told the Weekly that he was under the impression all the people at his house were San Francisco police officers. Only two of the six strangers had searched his house, car and computer.

Calderón stated he would not have let them search his property if he thought they were not police.

By Saturday, the SFPD issued this statement and stopped talking to reporters about the incident.

Rotten Apples In The SFPD?

As a native San Franciscan, I can tell you that at the very least, Apple is getting a level of service out of my police department that is not typically offered to San Francisco residents.

The SFPD denied involvement citing a lack of reports and records, then admitted to assisting Apple. And as of now they have completely clammed up and are referring everyone to the written statement they issued.

Apple, also not commenting on any of it, now happens to now be hiring for two new Product Security Managers.

Think what you will about Apple. I’m a conflicted Apple fangirl. And now, I’m a conflicted SFPD supporter (my mother is the former President of the San Francisco Police Commission). To me, it’s the SFPD that has a lot of fessing up to do.

Clearly, communication inside SFPD is broken. The inept way their media relations went down only served to reveal more than they expected; I think we’re looking at a bungled case of CYA. Maybe someone forgot to tell their boss something until it hit the press?

So what really happened? Apparently Apple contacted the SFPD for help finding a lost prototype, and their Senior Investigator Anthony “Tony” Colon was the point man. I think that after working for the San Jose Police Department for 26 years, he must know how to really work with police, and as a number of San Jose officers now work for San Francisco PD, he may even see a few friendly faces when he visits us. How nice!

Because the San Francisco officers did not participate in the search, and Apple did not file a police report, there are no records that anyone could request, under say, the Sunshine Act or the Freedom Of Information Act. (Even if the officers were off duty, they would have been required to file a report if they’d performed the search.)

Here’s one thing bothering this SF native: I really don’t like the idea of my police officers playing private muscle for Apple Inc. Apple isn’t part of the SF community other than three retail stores - WWDC aside, they left Macworld at the altar.

So since when does a company from Silicon Valley get to call up a police department in another city, tell them they think someone might have a piece of their property, and get a personal escort and badges to flash to go search a private residence?

To me, fingers need to be pointed at the SFPD. Their jobs are supposed to first and foremost be protecting SF citizens and upholding our rights. Not canoodling with Apple’s security wonks.

If the police are going to do this sort of thing with Apple and not tell anyone, we need to be informed who gets this special treatment and who does not. And what the rules are around keeping the “special” businesses within laws and rights that protect the police’s first customers: us.

I fear that in this new Apple scandal, my local police have used their presence to enhance grey areas in which corporations can operate just outside the law at the expense of our rights.

No wonder SF’s Public Defender and candidate for Mayor Jeff Adachi is leading the charge against police corruption. There are just more questions than answers.

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what's the problem about iPhone5???
luminary911 25th Sep
what's the problem about iPhone5???designer ********!!
Most of this seems like a tempest in a teapot, and on the side of the SFPD will probably result in stricter protocols before any officer responds to an issue in an official capacity.

The part that actually intrigues me is the (supposed) line of questioning that resulted in one of these personnel asking about the immigration status of those in the house-hold. It would seem likely that for someone to have noticed the number of individuals in the house-hold along with their nationality, they would have had to already have been inside the house. If the only persons that entered the house were the Apple investigators then we might have a problem, as that would have had nothing to do with the issue at hand and could definitely be construed as an attempt to coerce the suspect through threats.
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@Playdrv4me I really agree with you about the immigration question - it is little details like this in the story that bring up more questions. To me, they are troubling questions. For instance, what did these guys do to "look at" the man's computer? I'd NEVER let anyone "look" at my computer.
@Playdrv4me
If it was an Apple employee,he/she was impersonating a cop.
Also:
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202430899191&slreturn=1&hbxlogin=1
Does this make it illegal for a citizen to ask?
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@Playdrv4me

This is more than a tempest in a teapot. When the government uses its color of authority to gain access for a private entity, such as Apple, to enter a home (4th Amendment) without a warrant, that is significant. While ordinary the 4th Amendment would not be implicated by a private party unlawfully, trespassing and then committing burglary by accessing, copying or taking information without the owners permission or authority, when the police allow these people to act based on the the police department's authority, then it appears as though the searchers are agents of the police force.

It is significant when the police force issues a false statement to the public. It is significant, when they permit these illegal entrants to the home to search beyond the scope necessary to recover "lost" property.

Perhaps these things mean nothing to you, and you think that if the police gain entry into your home for friends or those who pay them that it fine for them to seach records, hard drives, and threaten people but in this country, that is not suppose to happen.
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@Playdrv4me I found that disturbing as well. What I also found disturbing was the implication that Apple investigators entered the home and participated in the search. Our legal system gives law enforcement officers the right to search property and person under certain circumstances as defined by law. Last I checked that did not include Joe Blow from Apple. If some corporate security drone shows up at my house uninvited, I don't care what the piece of paper carried by the cop with him says, he won't set foot in my house. Seems to me Apple should be more concerned about their policy regarding prototype devices in the wild and spend a little less time harassing citizens because their employees have all the responsibility of your average fourteen year old.
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@Playdrv4me

Worse than that - if they led the homeowner to believe that they themselves were police officers, Apple's employees may have committed a crime, and Apple may be held liable in civil court if Calderon pursues the case.

This is an expansive concept that applies to many ways of pretending to be a LEO that are less obvious than saying "I am a police officer". Arriving at a home with a number of police officers and failing to identify who is a police officer and who isn't before a search may qualify (although that depends on the law there, what exactly happened, and in what order).
... malicious tabloid gossip that was corrected by official police statement that the police assisted to Apple's investigators (which are former policemen themselves). And this all is according to 2000 IP-protection bill.

So, really, no questions are left. No impersonation, the search was done with voluntary agreement from the owner of the house, everything according to the law.

Next, please.
@DeRSSS

You are the most fanatic Apple Fanboy ever!!!
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@czorrilla He very well may be but at the same time the search was done under the consent of the homeowner...

Having said that this whole thing concerns me greatly. Can someone tell me how Apple investigators were allowed to perform their own search rather than the SFPD? Can someone tell me why SFPD officers were outside the dwelling while Apple investigators were inside? I agree with VB - something is up with the SFPD.
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@czorrilla So many violations with would take to long to list. Keep in mind that the concent was given to look for an lost item to SFPD. It was a mis-informed concent which had the police proceeded with the search would have made anything found illegal as evidence. Police cannot search "INSIDE' of anything without a specific warrant stating exactly where and what. If the concent was give out of fear or intimidation it was illegal. Secondly NO Law enforcement agency is authorised to randomly take civilians on a search since it could invalidate it. For a civilian to go on a search takes special permission and to participate takes legal permission. SFPD was complicit in illegal activity. 4th ammendment protects you against the Police but not civilians UNLESS the civilian is associated with the police in which case this was a violation. Both the police and Apple are guilty of conspiracy to commit a crime here by facilitating a search by parties under false pretext. The apple reps are guildy if impersonating a Police for not clearly Identifying themselves as non police (a crime of omission minimum) or identifying themselfs as police. Being an ex-police does not give you search authority. The 2000-IP bill required the SFPD to file a report. They did not, that is concealment, collusion or obstuction.
@Pete "athynz" Athens

But if that consent was given because the citizen was led to believe they were duly appointed officers of the law .... That consent doesn't mean much.
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@DeRSSS We have three statements from the SFPD, all contradictory.

I'm just asking the questions that any responsible citizen would ask. And there are many remaining.
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And we're glad you're asking.
TheWerewolf Updated - 6th Sep
@violetblue

Keep asking and don't let the ultra-fanboys shake you.

This isn't an Apple/PC thing - this is 'who are the police there for?' question and we should ALL be asking this whether we like or dislike Apple. If they did this for ANY computer company (or any company at all), this discussion should be happening.
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@violetblue

DeRSSS's post was nonsensical, so keep doing what you're doing (it doesn't matter whether or not they actually claimed aloud to be police officers, it doesn't matter whether they were "former police officers" themselves, and a search granted to a non-LEO operating falsely under color of law is not legal).
@violetblue: ... Apple's investigators. Two others were not statements, but alleged statements -- the media said that police told them something.

But as far as I can see there was only one actual statement.
@DeRSSS If they helped Apple, where is Apple's filed complaint about stolen property? I would not expect the Police to get out of bed, let alone accompany Apple employees, without an official theft report having been filed - and why didn't they get a subpoena to search the house, instead of bullying their way in - oh, wait, they couldn't, because nobody actually reported anything as stolen!

It sounds like the SFPD is turning into a private police force, enforcing "justice" for those with the biggest wallet. Or at least, certain parts of the SFPD. I hope they can clear out the rotten wood.
@wright_is It has nothing to do with the biggest wallet. The author of this piece hit the nail on the head in a way others have not: the Apple investigator was a retired officer, and the police department did all of this as a "professional courtesy" (euphemism for "looking out for one's own") in the same way police shields on cars get people out of speeding tickets, but worse. The retired officer also knew how to do things in such a way as to avoid a paper trail. All of the different statements are also about protecting their own from embarrassment.
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@DeRSSS I agree. If I went to Joe Blow's house and asked him if I could search it, and he consented to it, then I've broken no laws and he has no repercussions. No, I'm not a police officer, but consent is consent.

Who really cares anyway? Apple lost a phone (maybe, I still doubt it ever happened). Someone went looking for it. A man claims that they threatened his immigration status and that of the "several generations" of family members in the house.

If the phone was traced there and he was where the phone was supposedly lost and he consented to SOMEONE searching his property then no laws were broken.

Move along people. Nothing to see here...
@heymatthew

The guy gave the police permission to search his place. At the same time the Apple employees were identified as police and had badges. If he had known that the Apple people were not police I seriously doubt they would have stepped foot in his place. The police or whoever was doing the threats and questioning were wrong. I think the guy has a legitimate lawsuit if he wants to persue it against the police and Apple. The permission was granted under false circumstances.
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@heymatthew
Excuse me, but the comment about "more people...than there should be" is boorish if not bigotry. Do you know the size of the house? Do you know if they were living there or just visiting? I have my 80 year old inlaws living with me, and one child, that's 3 generations, and this is PERFECTLY fine.

The Apple people did NOT get consent, legally. They fraudulently represented themselves, so by law, consent was not given.
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@heymatthew I was just wondering how accurate your GPS was and why they couldn't locate it once they got there. If they actually had GPS tracking they should have found it unless the tracks were old. Even police would not search a location for a small mobile electronic if the GPS track was old enough for it to be gone. Next question, doesn't it seem strange to you that they knew he had been at the bar based on a GPS track? If he lived with an extended family it could have been anyone in the household. It boils down to a good old boy getting a tip, calling up his PD buddies and shaking down someone easy to intimidate in hopes of looking good.

And as for you assumption of concent, the 4th amendment doesn't protect you from a civilian searching your house but it does protect you from illegal searches which include under duress, false pretext or individuals falsely claiming authority. If a neighbor says he is the water meter reader and gets your permission to come onto your property and he searches your home, I guess that is ok with you since he was a civilian and had your permission to be there.
@Test Subject and Techanalyst:

The guy let them in the house. Done. If you break into my house, I can shoot you. But if I invite you in, you have broken no laws and there is nothing I can do about it. If the guy was "under duress" then he had something to hide. If someone came up to me and said, "Hey, let me search your house or I'm going to report you to the cable company for stealing HBO." I'd tell them to pack sand and to call the cable company. I'm not hiding anything.

The only reason he would be "under duress" is because they threatened his family members and he/they may have had something to hide.

Also, Apple impersonating police officers is between Apple and the SFPD (who aren't talking because they're in the wrong as much as Apple is). The guy might have a complaint centered around that, but I doubt he would have a lawsuit.

@NorthernComfort: You're right, I apologize. However, the guy did only let them in because they threatened to report his family to immigration or whatever it was they said. No matter the wording they used, it spooked him. I'd venture to guess he didn't want this happening because something is not "legal" about people in his house. I apologize if my comment offended you and I have edited it as I showed no tact the first time around. Guess we all make assumptions (and you know what they say about those).
@DeRSSS
Seriously? If this were to happen to you, would you give up your rights without question? Or are you simply a paid blogger to soften the outcry here?
@DeRSSS

There's a claim that his family were threatened. There's also the issue of misrepresentation of Apple staff as SFPD officers (even if implied and not explicit).

It comes down to this: were the officers there in an official capacity (the lack of formal reports in the system argue that no, they weren't) and were the Apple staff presented as SFPD either by intent or implication (and there's evidence that if they didn't actually misrepresent, they certainly didn't go to any effort to be upfront about it).

There's lots of reason to suspect something very inappropriate happened here. The lack of a warrant alone makes this very suspicious.

So, here's the alternate version to yours: Apple contacted SFPD and got them to send a few police off the record to this guy's place. Initially, he wasn't going to let them in, but then they started making suggestions that his family might have to be investigated for immigration violations. He, not surprisingly, decides that getting searched (since he knew he didn't have the phone) is the lesser of two inconveniences and agrees.

That results in EXACTLY the same end point you suggest, but is hardly a benign outcome - and it seems to fit the facts more closely than your version.
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@TheWerewolf

Mr. Calder?n should contact a lawyer who will represent his interests with Apple and the SFPD.

He might even be able to afford new Android phones for life......
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Get a clue!!!
Bay Area CA Male 6th Sep
@TheWerewolf
Since nobody in this or any blog around the internet was actually there you can all shuv it! If these were police officers working with a retired police vet then they know the laws and they know how to get around them. So please beleive they were in fact abiding by the law or close enough to it to where they know they can talk their way out of it.

And as far as the home owner being threatened via immigration status of household members, SO WHAT?????
What is your big stink?
If the household members were NOT illegal then he would have nothing to worry about. BUT obviosuly they WERE illegal and he decided to comply instead of shipping his familiy member back home. I am hispanic born abroad, immigrated here to US, but my family came here thru legal channels, so I DO NOT see why people defend these immigrants!
The Law is the Law, whether you like it or not!!!
So if he was harboring illegal immigrants then he was breaking the law. I am sure some sleezy lawyer will pick this up, but at this point it is all here say and its the word of an immigrant vs the word of 4-6 current or former law enforcement officials.
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RE: Get a clue!!!
WinTard 6th Sep
@Bay Area CA Male
You said: Since nobody in this or any blog around the internet was actually there you can all shuv it!

And so can you!

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@DeRSSS
There was impersonation if the homeowner was not informed that the Apple people were not cops and Calder?n's statement states that.
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@philetus
I beleive that the cops may have used misinformation or other implications to gain access to the home. Afterall they had a task to accomplish; get the phone back.
But all this here say aside, Calderon by this point is being coached by a sleazy lawyer on what to say!!!
Calderon is doing everything he can to build up a lawsuit and get money for nothing. I hope he does not get it because I, as an immigrant hispanic who used legal channels, am getting sick and tired of these indigenous mexicans who use their illegal law breaking status as a means to get money!
They should feel lucky they are not getting deported like they would in their own country.
So if this Calderon guy didnt know his rights or how to enforce them, that is hsi fault. I know under what circumstances a cop can enter my home or not, and i know to require proper identification...

You should not be able to file or win a lawsuit based on ignorance or idiocy alone!!!
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@DeRSSS
THANK YOU!!

Clear. Concise. To the point. Book closed.

Being dumb and unimformed is NOT grounds for any lawsuit.
This Calderon guy needs to leave it alone otherwise he should get sued for lying about the immigration status of the household members.
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@Bay Area CA Male

That's not how it works. Research a legal concept known as "color of law". You cannot lead someone to believe that you are a law enforcement officer, even if they never question your authority to do what you are doing under that assumption.

Also, I'm unsure who would be "suing" over immigration status. Civil liability in that case is bounded because of the federal government's enumerated powers.
@DeRSSS

You wish! Don't you see your fascist tendencies? Obviously you cannot.

Yet coercion is illegal and criminal by either officials, or civilians.

Good luck in the court of public opinion, and that of the Law! And even if civil law results only in a slap on the wrist, criminal law trumps civil, like it or not.

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@DeRSSS I trust you are getting a LARGE retainer from Apple becuase I'd hate to think you are so clueless as to believe what you wrote.
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RE: The Lost iPhone 5: More Questions Than Answers
michaellashinsky@... Updated - 9th Sep
@DeRSSS

No, not OK at all. The police identified themselves, but never identified the others as civilians, so that it is implied that they are officers. Someone involved threatened citizens with deportation. The search was under false pretenses and was never documented by the officers involved. The police officers never entered the building, instead let civilians do the search while they waited outside. They say they traced the phone to the house via GPS, but it wasn't there, so they couldn't even trace the phone right, if they even traced it at all. But they did know the guy was at the bar, so maybe they didn't trace it at all, just ID'ed him from the bar and went on a fishing expedition, useing police resources to track him to his house, and lied about the GPS data.

There isn't a single thing right about this. For you to believe so is stupid.
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Feldwebel Wolfenstool Updated - 6th Sep
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It was Jason Chen
neckbeard 5th Sep
Not Brian Lam
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@neckbeard Fixed it earlier, thank you. Added a link to the EFF's page about Apple's warrant search being illegal.
I think the guy at the bar took my coupon for 10 cents off my next burger. Think the police will assist me in searching his house to see if he has it?
@rsmurf

Only if it has an Apple logo on it.
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You are conflicted? Pardon me? BigCorp (any large corporate) blew its dog-whistle and the SFPD did what any city police dept would do, they dropped their pants and bent over.
@FrederickLeeson

I would say this is directly because it is Apple... They are like the modern day Gestapo. Look how they deal with traitors in China and get away with it.
Twice they lost a prototype?
Get real.
Publicity.
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@MoeFugger You know, I almost added a section about exactly that. I was thinking it might be a publicity stunt too - and I saw a lot of blogs that outright declared it a publicity stunt because an iPhone competitor launched a phone on Sept. 2. But the more I dug and talked to people here in San Francisco, and watched the way SFPD really messed up communication with me and other bloggers, I had to conclude it wasn't a publicity stunt. If it was, it was so poorly done that I think it's going to get some people in deep sh*t around here.
@violetblue

What gets me about all the "publicity stunt" static out there is that Apple simply doesn't need to bother with it. They are going to sell 50 katrillion iPhones regardless of publicity because the product sells itself and, yes, we have plenty of fanbois (fangirls) in our ranks.

Moreover, there isn't much of a precedent for this with Apple in the past anyway, much less with Police involvement as you noted. If there is a problem Apple does *not* have, it is moving merchandise!
@MoeFugger

That or Apple employees/users are just that inept.
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they did it on purpose
cornpie 5th Sep
Oh come on. The iPhone 4 gets lost in a bar shortly before launch and now the identical thing happens with the iPhone 5? too much of a coincidence to me.
@cornpie

Exactly... There were already people feeling the first incident was a fake for publicity since most people were let off the hook. Quite the kawinkidink if you ask me.

Fool me once, shame on you!
Fool me twice, shame on me!
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Really Apple? What next?
TonyV125 Updated - 5th Sep
If they really lost a second prototype, that's pathetic.
If this really was a publicity stunt, that's even more pathetic.

...And involving law enforcement in the manner that they have in both situations is an outrage. Can any corporation rise to such levels of success without excessive paranoia and/or letting their egos get in the way?
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Let's put a different spin on this
Pete "athynz" Athens 6th Sep
@TonyV125

...And involving law enforcement in the manner that they have in both situations is an outrage.

Let's say that all of this went down as stated - the original iPhone 4 prototype was stolen from the bar without Gray's or Apple's knowledge. Even if it wasn't a prototype but a iPhone 3G/3GS would you not call the police? And with this current issue - same thing an iPhone was stolen from a bar - again would you not call the police?

Outrage? Yeah I guess it's an outrage to involve the police concerning stolen property only if it's Apple's property. And somehow - like most iHaters - I seriously doubt you'd have an issue if the stolen prototype was an HTC, Samsung, or Motorola device. Cue the Double Standards.

Having said that in this current situation there are a great many unanswered questions - questions I asked in a few posts above. The ONLY thing they had to go on in this situation was the results of the "find my iPhone" app.

The difference between this and the issue with the iPhone 4 prototype that was stolen from Gray was that Gizmodo/ Jason Chen published pictures of the disassembled prototype which gave law enforcement the probable cause they needed to search Chen's house and seize his computers.
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what's the problem about iPhone5???designer ********!!

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