File format blues

Summary: Routinely suppliers of technology and services send me a presentation deck. This deck is to meant to be the central focus of a conversation about their products or services.

Routinely suppliers of technology and services send me a presentation deck. This deck is to meant to be the central focus of a conversation about their products or services. One would expect that these suppliers, or their public relations firms, would do their best to make sure that these presentations were in a format that was as broadly accessible as possible.

How a file format can become an irritant

It is irritating when a supplier representative or PR professional sends out documents or presentations in a format that assumes that everyone is using the office productivity software that they are using. Presuming that everyone is using Microsoft's newest format, a format that is not compatible with older versions of Microsoft's software without loading additional software, isn't wise. At best, this leads to a time-wasting round of "would you please resend the deck in another format" messages. As worst, it gives the impression that the supplier is not listening to its customers.

Sending DOCX or PPTX files can be a mistake

Microsoft's Office 2007 can be made to create documents in the same format as used by Office 97/2000/XP/2003. Unfortunately, that is not the default setting. While it is easy to change this setting, many do not do this because they never wade into the huge number of parameters to figure out which one is the one they should adjust.

This, by the way, is a tactic Microsoft has used for over a decade to induce organizations to jump into a broad installation of its software. All it takes is for the CEO or a VP of something or other to start sending files in the newest format, a format that can't be read unless the recepient upgrades to Microsoft's newest product too, for everyone to be knocking on the IT department's door to get the new software too.

Microsoft typically addresses this issue by offering a plug in for older versions of software (usually only the recently replaced version of software, not software two or more versions back). In this case, Microsoft has made plug-in software allowing Office 2003 to access the new formats. The fact that a plug in has been made available for Microsoft's own products doesn't do a bit of good for those using other office productivity packages such as OpenOffice.Org or its cousin NeoOffice.

Furthermore, even if a person is using an older version of Office on their system, Microsoft requires that everyone load and run it's "Windows Genuine Advantage" software just to get the plug in. Microsoft's WGA is based upon the assumption that all of Microsoft's many customers are thieves and must be monitored constantly to prevent theft of Microsoft's products.

Security experts have tracked what messages WGA sends back to the mothership and showed that WGA is tracking a great deal more than Microsoft lets on and contacts the mothership on a much more frequent basis than people know. While I have nothing to hide, I don't run software that shows that the vendor thinks that everyone is a thief. I just move my operations to other, less hostile products.

Oh, by the way, if your organization standardized on one of the many forms of Windows Vista, WGA is built in and you have no option to run your computer without it. How special.

OpenOffice.Org file formats to the rescue?

Presuming everyone is using productivity packages such as OpenOffice.Org (or NeoOffice on the Mac) isn't a good choice either. Users of Microsoft's office products won't be able to do much with those documents or presentations.

OpenOffice.Org, available on many systems, has the ability to publish documents and spreadsheets in a format compatible with Office 97/2000/XP/2003 and in the Adobe Acrobat format.

How about XML?

Using what appears at first glace to be a standard, XML formatted files, isn't always a safe bet either.

Some suppliers have used the standard XML format as a springboard to jump off into their own proprietary formats. Unless someone is using that vendor's software, the file is not usable even though the container was standard.

What's an IT professional to do?

It would be safer to assume that people are using a diverse selection of tools. This means that reaching out to them requires thinking a bit.

File formats that are broadly accessible are better than using formats that only one product supports.

Today safe choices include using either DOC or PPT, Microsoft's 97/2000/XP/2003 formats, or PDF, Adobe's Acrobat format.  The only other safe choice is to send out boring text files.

Reality on the ground

Why then, do I frequently receive presentation decks or documents formatted as Microsoft Office 2007 files and have to request that the person resend them using a more friendly format?

It's my best guess that one of the following things could describe what's happening.

  • The person doesn't know how to use all of the features built into their personal productivity software and has no idea what format documents and presentation decks are being produced.
  • Their organization has standardized on a specific version of software and, by gosh, everyone else must use that software too.
  • They're so overworked and are in such a rush, they don't think about file formats at all and just send out what their document processing or presentation software churns out.

Have you had to deal with this? What do you do?

Topics: Software, CXO, Collaboration, Microsoft, IT Employment

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  • Compatibility pack

    I would expect an ITC journalist that does not even have Office 2007 but still has the old Office XP/2003 version to have the compatibility pack for Office Open XML files installed. This has been downloaded more than 100 million times.
    IE9
    • It's read-only

      It will convert to the old version but it will not save files to Office Open XML. Compatibility errors are frequent in my experience.
      Michael Kelly
    • Don't forget WGA!

      I won't submit to Microsoft's WGA. That means that I can't download the plug in. This translates to limited compatibility.

      OpenOffice and NeoOffice can open the files, but often formatting errors make the files difficult to impossible to use without a great deal of work.

      Dan K
      dkusnetzky
      • Why not?

        Assuming you're using a legitimate version of Windows and Office, why wouldn't you submit to Microsoft's WGA to download updates such as this to allow you to properly open documents made using a newer version of Office?

        'Microsoft?s WGA is based upon the assumption that all of Microsoft?s many customers are thieves and must be monitored constantly to prevent theft of Microsoft?s products'

        You're not a thief are you? Are you using an illegal version of Windows and/or Office?

        I understand the issue of format incompatibility. I use AutoCAD to create drawings for my job and every few versions Autodesk changes their format enough that you are required to get the latest AutoCAD product in order to open and edit a file. However, I also understand that in order to add new functionality to their products, file incompatability is a forseeable issue that software developers need to deal with, and I believe providing a free plug-in for previous versions of their applications solves it for Microsoft.

        But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

        sean_hando@...
        • So you wouldn't mind being strip-searched...

          ...every time you got on a plane? You're not a terrorist, are you? You don't have anything to hide, do you?
          Henry Miller
          • Yes, I would mind but....

            I don't mind if they check to ensure that I bought a ticket to go on said flight and ensure that I'm in fact the person who's name is on the ticket.

            You metaphor is pretty lame. The issue with WGA isn't whether you're planning on destroying anything, it's whether you have legitimate licensed software on your computer. Confirming it by pressing a button is nothing like the extreme example you give.
            sean_hando@...
          • That is the way you look at it.

            I own my copies from MS, but that doesn't give them the right to go on my computer to check everything else out. You wouldn't let the plumber in, head to work and tell him to lock up when he leaves. Why would you let MS scan your computer for none genuine software, when they may be lifting far more than that from your computer.

            I will be the 1st to admit than MS has better computer programers then I am. They could get anything they want off my computer, without me even being aware of it. It is like an invasion of privacy.
            mjolnar@...
          • What do you mean by everythign?

            I sincerly doubt that Microsoft is checking everything, as you put it. That would imply that they're checking Adobe software, Apple software, Corel software, etc. All that they're looking at is Microsoft software that they have every right to confirm is legitimate before providing updates.

            Like the previous post comparing WGA to a strip search, your comparison is pretty lame. Microsoft isn't stealing personal data files from your computer (that would be easily traceable and I'm sure someone would have found that out by now). Your metaphor would be better suited for Google and how they read e-mails from GMail and track your Google web searches to determine better advertising popups on your browser screen.

            sean_hando@...
          • no I don't mind

            If taking a few "innocent" people out of line results in catching those that are planning to do harm to others, that's part of making flying safer for everyone. Yes it's a hassle to be pulled out of line and have your items hand searched, but if you got nothin to hide, it's done and over with pretty quickly, no harm done.

            Same with Sobriety checks, they suck for innocent people and slow us down, but running head on into a drunk driver, slows you down, PERMANENTLY.
            Khyron
          • Uh, it's close to that now!

            Poor example - we are now subject to partial disrobement at the airport - shoes off, belt off, coat and hat off, etc. And, with new body scanners being used, someone is essentially seeing you "naked"! At least Microsoft hasn't asked me to take my clothes off (yet!) ;-)
            randysmith@...
        • Why is it that when someone wants not to be monitored around the clock...

          The immediate intimation is that he must be stealing something or not playing by the rules?

          Perhaps people like to be treated with a degree of dignity and respect and not have their computer permanently tethered to a Microsoft server.
          urbandk
          • Pretty lame response....

            If you try to go to a concert or sporting event where tickets are required, don't you need to prove you have a ticket before being allowed to enter? What if the ticket you were using was stolen? With today's barcode technology the owner of the ticket can inform the event organizers of that fact and the tickets can be voided so that when they're scanned at the gate the holders won't be allowed to enter.

            Same thing with software. You purchase software with the understanding that you will received support from the developer. If you steal the software, you shouldn't be allowed to receive support.

            sean_hando@...
          • We built a computer for my youngest son.

            When we were figuring what system to put on it, we decided Vista premium 64 would be the best. It worked OK till the new HDD was installed, 1/2 hour on the phone with MS showing it was a legal OEM system. After 2 years the Asus motherboard crashed, enter WGA. What was a legal copy was now reported as pirated. 1 1/2 hours on the phone with MS they still thought is was pirated. I brought the computer and software to a friend at a repair shop, told him what was going on. Next day I have a genuine Vista computer again. He said it was the same disc I originally purchased.

            Great work MS, I run Ultimate 64 on mine, but only for things that just don't work with Linux. I run it twice a month on average.
            mjolnar@...
          • I'm calling BS on this one....

            If it's true and all software was legit, then you're an extremely rare case. You didn't mention whether the Vista disk was initally purchased from your friend. Was it an original hologram disk? If so then I'm assuming you had the disk and box with the installation key.

            I've heard stories similar to yours before regarding OEM computers. Turned out that in all those cases the Windows licenses used were not legit and whenever an update was installed, WGA would no longer support that computer.
            sean_hando@...
          • Because you're not

            "tethered". You're overstating the facts. Microsoft wants to make sure that they are supporting only those people that are supprting them, which I think is fair and helps keeps costs down. If Microsoft were support Windows, no matter if it was bought legally, there would be millions more people they would have to support yes? Given that, they would have to hire many more employees, increasing their overhead and thereby passing those costs down to you when you buy their product.

            Same Philosophy also goes towards amnesty immigration and the single payer healthcare the Dems are trying to push. Supporting those that aren't contributing, only costs the contributors more and is unfair and unequal, since some are getting the same level of service at no cost to themselves and those that actually do pay money, have to continually pay more and more to keep the same level of service.
            Khyron
      • You want the free support & updates ...

        ... and yet you don't want to prove that you own the license to your copy of Windows?

        I sincerely hope FAST raids your home and offices and that you receive the education you so urgently require about license compliance.

        Don't like Windows' EULA, go use Linux/BSD/BeOS/whatever. And when they don't work, don't blame MS for forcing you to have to use Linux - you have and you make that choice.
        de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023
        • do you think someone might be fully legal, but resent the intrusion?

          Why not let Bestbuy and the staff of your local 711 inspect your
          house weekly to check for anything you might have stolen.

          You're being unreasonable, and so is microsoft.
          This will drive paying customers away.
          stevey_d
        • If Microsoft is free to assume that ALL customers are thieves

          until proven innocent, why should I assume that Microsoft will never do something they should not (spy on me or something) do ?

          I paid them my money (For my XP). Why should that give them the right to spy on me forever ?

          They do not check only once, but over and over again.

          The very least they could have done is to set an "approved" token on MY computer the first time they check.

          The whole behaviour is totally INSULTING !
          hkommedal
      • Your dislike of WGA aside ...

        ... your unwillingness to use the compatibiliy tools provided by the vendor of the DE FACTO STANDARD (in this case, Microsoft but the same could be said of Adobe PDF format), hurts you a great deal more than it hurts your vendors because the great bulk of their customers have access to the free Adobe Reader and have no qualms about WGA.

        In the end, you are cutting off your own nose to spite your face.
        M Wagner
    • yup

      You know what "I created my own office productivity pack, I think everyone in the world should conform to my standard, even though I'm the only one that is using it right now" /sarcasm off


      For those that choose to use a lesser used office suite, because they don't like the big bad microsoft, and think everyone should be loading whatever office suite their client uses on their computer just so they can send in the proper file format are simply not with the program.

      If you get so many documents and presentations in docx or pptx format, doesn't that tell you that you should either install the compatibility pack or get office 2007, because most other companies are using it?

      just because you work at home and can manage what software you choose to support, doesn't mean corporations also have to support multiple office suites or manage and buy new programs just because one of their clients only uses that particular program.

      Because you refuse to use a mainstream product, doesn't give you the authority to dictate what programs others should use or force a company to incur the cost of buying software that will be only used once in a blue moon to communicate with one client. That's called a waste of time, money and resources from a corporation's point of view.

      Companies buy mainstream software for a reason and don't bother with niche software or free software, mostly because you don't get the same level of support from free software developers or lesser used products. If open office were so much better than MS office, then it would be overtaking the market already on it's own mertis. It simply doesn't have the market share, therefore most companies don't bother to support openoffice in large numbers.
      Khyron