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Dan Kusnetzky, Paula Rooney and Ken Hess

iCloud, you sneaky little devil you

By | October 31, 2011, 6:16am PDT

Summary: Another iCloud gotcha called Photo Stream is calling to you from the great Cloud. Resistance is futile. You and your PC will be assimilated.

[UPDATE: This article has some errata in it concerning Photo Stream and iCloud storage but is updated in: OK, I take it back. Photo Stream is cool. That said, this one is still fun and educational.]

Some people view Microsoft as The Evil Empire, while others give Apple that moniker. I’ve never thought either one was particularly evil but when I found iCloud installed on my PC after upgrading to iOS 5, I’m beginning to wonder. I discovered the iCloud icon in my Windows 7 system tray after a recent update/reboot exercise. So, being the curious sort, I opened it and to my surprise, Apple is trying to make me use their Cloud service on my PC. What’s next? Will Microsoft start making applications for Mac computers? Oh, wait, nevermind.

OK, so I know I installed iCloud during the update but I thought it was just a way to manage my iOS device backups or to keep track of them. Little did I know that Apple is now willing to backup data and pictures from my PC.

You might remember my post from last week, “Avoiding the iCloud storage gotcha,” where I describe how to avoid using up all of your free 5GB too quickly.

But, now there’s an added bonus way to burn up that free space: your PC. Apple wants me to use their Cloud-based storage on all of my devices not just Apple ones. Pretty darn sneaky, if you ask me. Smart too.

If you installed iCloud along with your recent iOS 5 update but can’t find the iCloud “App” on your PC, it’s lurking in the Control Panel. You might have to change your view to “Small Icons” to see it but it’s there. On your next reboot, you’ll see it in your system tray (bottom right hand corner of your computer screen).

When you open the Control Panel applet or the system tray icon, you’ll see the same interface, shown in Figure 1.

The iCloud PC Application.

Figure 1: The iCloud PC Application.

I don’t use Microsoft Outlook but, for now at least, you can only backup your Outlook contacts, calendars and tasks. You can also backup your Internet Explorer bookmarks. But, the most intriguing of all is the Photo Stream part of the iCloud application.

To setup your PC to use Photo Stream, click the checkbox and then click Options to see the screen in Figure 2.

Setting up iClouds Photo Stream Folders on the PC

Figure 2: Setting up iClouds Photo Stream Folders on the PC

Here’s the really sneaky part: People take more photos with digital devices because it doesn’t cost anything to do so. Why is that sneaky? Because everyone wants those photos to be of the highest quality. Higher quality photos means bigger photos. Bigger photos means that they take up more space. Sneaky.

This means that you’ll burn through that five free gigabytes with one or two uploads from your iPod, iPhone, iPad or PC. You’ll have to buy more space as described in, “Avoiding the iCloud storage gotcha.”

Gotcha.

iCloud is less expensive than Dropbox and it works on all of your iDevices, Macs and now your PC too.

Awesome.

And, very Microsoft-esque of Apple to do that.

To learn exactly how Photo Stream works with your iCloud service, go to the iCloud Help: What is Photo Stream? link and read all about it.

Yeah, it’s cool, but somehow I know I should be offended by this but I’m just not sure how. Maybe you can write back and tell me what’s wrong with this scenario so that I can clarify it in my own mind.

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Kenneth 'Ken' Hess is a full-time Windows and Linux system administrator with over 15 years of experience with Mac, Linux, UNIX, and Windows systems in large multi-data center environments.

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Ken Hess

Kenneth 'Ken' Hess is a full-time Windows and Linux system administrator with over 15 years of experience with Mac, Linux, UNIX, and Windows systems in large multi-data center environments.

Ken writes on a variety of topics including interoperability, virtualization, data center operations, databases, and open source software. He has written and co-written books on Linux, databases, and virtualization. He currently writes a System Administration column for Linux Magazine and is a regular contributor to Linux User & Developer magazine, ServerWatch.com's Trends and InfoStor. He often contributes to other online and print publications as well.

His first computer was a Commodore VIC-20, which he purchased because William Shatner was in the commercials.

In his limited spare time, Ken enjoys painting, drawing, and flinging angry birds at fortified pigs.

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jgomdyr 62 uyl
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RE: iCloud, you sneaky little devil you
Aerowind Updated - 31st Oct
Methinks you used the wrong image for Figure 1. Unless you meant to show us how to insert pictures into power point.
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RE: iCloud, you sneaky little devil you
veggiedude Updated - 31st Oct
iCloud only stores up to 30 days worth of your photo's. They figure that is ample time for you to save the ones you want locally to your other devices.

In addition to this, any apps, music or video purchased on iTunes does NOT count against your 5GB allotted space.
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Contributr
No, that's the iCloud initial screen. Click on the pictures for a clearer view. I'm not sure why they aren't showing up better in the text.
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so, you "chose" to install iCloud, you "chose" to use the photo stream and then complaint that Apple is sneaky! Get a life!
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@browser.

No, I chose to install it because I thought it had a different function. I chose Photo Stream to show you how it works.
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Photo stream doesn't count in the 5 GB number..
doctorSpoc Updated - 31st Oct
@khess ..photo stream stores the last 1000 photos taken on iOS device or added to iPhoto on Macs on iCloud and DOESN'T count in your 5 GBs.. it's NOT meant as permanent storage.. It's meant as a way to auto transfer to other devices wirelessly.. like home computer or iCloud or other cloud storage... and when you take photo 1001, photo No. 1 gets remove.. think if they are there for more than a month the photos are removed as well..

I think the gotcha is that you simply don't know and didn't read what you signed up for.. photo stream is NOT cloud storage.. it's a temporary holding spot for your 1000 most recent photo to make more seamless where you permanently want to store them.. eg. the folder you chose is the folder photos will be transfers to when you take a photo on iOS device and from to iOS when something is added there.. next time reading or simple listen to the demo and you won't be so confused..
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So sneaky that it asks you twice on your iPhone after updating to iOS5 if you want to use PhotoStream.
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@jmiller1978

Maybe it does now but I don't remember that from the upgrade, when I did it on release day. Plus, I'm not saying that Photo Stream is sneaky, I'm saying iCloud/Apple is sneaky for putting something on my PC that allows me to use iCloud for storage.
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@khess

Umm, isn't part of the point of iCloud is that you can use it for storage?
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@khess

Well being iOS5 has received zero updates since release I can assure you it did. PhotoStream is designed to sync your photo collection across your devices with or without your PC. Of course Apple wants you to use it as storage, that was the whole point and also why they offer additional storage for a fee...if you need it.

So many people complained about needing to connect to USB to sync and now that Apple allows you to shed the cable, they're considered sneaky. iCloud services are 100% optional as I only choose it use the Find my Phone feature.
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@khess
I'm saying iCloud/Apple is sneaky for putting something on my PC that allows me to use iCloud for storage.

They're sneaky for putting something on your computer... that you asked them to put on your computer?

I've done tons of iTunes updates in our coprorate environment since the 10.5 release and EVERY SINGLE TIME, the iCloud part of the software is optional and has to be manually checked to install. So, you ask them to install software to your computer, then you call them sneaky for installing the very software you asked for? That's a bit harsh, don't you think?
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No thanx, no way I am going to install any Apple software on my computer ...
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@AdnanPirota

So it means you don't use iTunes which most likely also means you don't have iPhone/iPod/iPad...so why are you commenting again?
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"You can also backup your Internet Explorer bookmarks."

Kinda disappointing that they don't do Firefox. Not that it matters for myself - I use Xmarks anyways, works great.

"iCloud is less expensive than Dropbox . . ."

Not really. Dropbox's basic plan is free, and a 50 GB Dropbox plan is the same price as a 50 GB iCloud plan ($100 in both cases).

Dropbox also has the advantage in that it's general file storage. I can share any type of file with Dropbox, be it music, photos, documents, or whatever. Dropbox doesn't care what it is, it'll share it.

" . . . and it works on all of your iDevices, Macs and now your PC too."

. . . and so does Dropbox. I've got it on my iPhone, and it's available for the Mac. In fact, Dropbox supports more platforms than iCloud right now.
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Please do your homework first.

...from Apple's website:

When you sign up for iCloud, you automatically get 5GB of free storage. And that???s plenty of room, because of the way iCloud stores your content. Your purchased music, apps, books, and TV shows, as well as your Photo Stream, don???t count against your free storage. Since your mail, documents, Camera Roll, account information, settings, and other app data don???t use as much space, you???ll find that 5GB goes a long way.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4486

FYI - Photo Stream does not count against your iCloud storage.
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I wasn't sure I was going to like Photo Stream but this weekend I got to experience the benefits of it. I took a few pictures Saturday night and went to review them on my iPhone Sunday morning. The pictures are small on a 3.5" screen. I picked up my iPad and they were already there on a 10" screen. Very nice.

I don't think there is anything sneaky going on here though. Unlike Safari that just seems to install itself during iTunes updates, I've yet to have iCloud install itself on my computer. I had to install it myself and it worked as advertised.

I'm going to go ahead and call you an Apple hateboy.
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@toddybottom.. I've got a couple Picts of my thumb.. some out of focus stuff.. some stuff not framed right.. etc.. why can't you delete that stuff? Cool but still a work in progress..
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RE: iCloud, you sneaky little devil you
Heart_Man_2000 31st Oct
No one, including Apple is FORCING you to do anything. Don't want it, turn it off and/or uninstall it. If you try it and you don't like it, you can always turn it off. Or you could just stick your head in the sand like the previous commenter
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Simple solution, turn Photo Stream off.... that's what I do..
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The photostream picture DO NOT count towards your 5GB allocation for iCloud. It stores the most recent 30 days or 1000 photos, something like that, and all are cloud backed up by Apple for free if you select that option. I turned it on about a week ago and now have 60 pictures in my Photostream. It also created a separate album labeled Photostream on the phone, right after Camera Roll. Mine is set to sync when the phone is synced, so it only moves to Photostream from the camera roll when it is on wifi.
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have to agree with the other poster that mentioned in a reply that PhotoStream isn't included in the 5 GB.
http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/photo-stream.html
30 days or 1000 pictures (including edited versions)
...he would cringe at this post if he ever decides to read it.
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@khess

The photostream does not count against your 5GB limit. They have it right on the Apple website. http://www.apple.com/icloud/what-is.html
"Your purchased music, apps, books, and TV shows, as well as your Photo Stream, don???t count against your free storage."
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