Chinese tourists will need NBN: Rudd

Chinese tourists will need NBN: Rudd

Summary: Former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has said that Labor's national broadband network (NBN) will be essential to satisfy Chinese tourists who already pump $4.2 billion annually into the Australian economy.


Kevin Rudd said today that China's emerging middle class wants to be able to check on their home and business while travelling in Australia.

"The expectation of high-speed broadband being available for everything is absolutely fundamental," Rudd told a forum of tourism businesses in Hobart.

"They won't feel comfortable being isolated from news back home, news concerning their business or the intrinsics of their business operation."

Rudd took a swipe at the Coalition broadband policy released last week, which doesn't provide a fibre optic connection to most premises.

"There's no ifs, no buts, no Malcolm Turnbulls about what sort of broadband you want," he said.

"Our high-income tourists from China and elsewhere will simply have this as an elementary expectation, and frankly, it's one of the reasons why we're doing it."

The Mandarin-speaking former foreign minister was speaking about Tasmania's ability to attract a share of Chinese tourism's $102 billion annual spend worldwide.

He said China's 573,000 tourists last year spent $6,422 per visit to Australia, more than visitors from any other country, and that the market would be worth $7.4 billion by 2020.

Rudd said that Tasmania's "clean, green, and blue" reputation appealed to tourists from the world's largest country.

But he warned that Australia needed more Chinese-language speakers and a greater understanding of Chinese culture.

"If you think mum's home-baked meat pie is the way through, think again," he said.

Topics: NBN, Government AU, China, Australia

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  • This must be a joke

    Where to begin? A party of clowns...
    Richard Flude
    • No, the real joke is...

      ...that countries like Kenya and Uzbekistan can offer fibre to them, but Australia wont under "Fibre to the No".
      • strange comments

        I am reasonably sure fttp is not yet available in Kenya, yes they are in the midst of a massive reengineering of the telecommunications infrastructure, don't think they match Australia just yet.
        Blank Look
        • It's arguable :(

  • mixing the subject

    of course business needs high speed broadband and yes individuals as well, however making available high speed broadband to tourist facilities is not dependant on a fttp broadband rollout . Btw i expect many tourists would be using wireless to access the internet.
    Blank Look
  • Hmmm

    So you are against building infrastructure for Australian's and against investing to improve the economy via tourism (China alone $4.2B)...

    Yes... speaking of clowns, keep counting Corolla's Dick and leave the serious stuff to those who can see past the politics.

    Ooh and have you found that page for HC yet.
  • yep, this is what I was saying years ago, it's not just Chinese tourists but tourists in general. If they are debating on which country to visit broadband speeds will become an issue especially when it comes to upload speeds.

    What do the coaltion clowns have to offer here? A $30+ billion taxpayer funded disaster with 25mbps download speeds not much better than we get on ADSL2+. Upload speeds so embarrassing they didn't even cover that topic in their plan which looks like it was written up by a bunch of retarded chimpanzees... or Abbott himself.

    Yes, I can see why the most feverish of coaltion supporters would go out of their way to defend this plan, they make it a point to be ill-informed so it is understandable but anyone with an ounce of knowledge on this subject knows better. Not many can justify the $30+ billion price tag for such a poorly thought out policy either.
    Hubert Cumberdale
    • Really!

      my experience is that people across the globe have more or less the same outlook on life (politics aside). Choosing to visit a place based on the availability of a broadband service is probably a bit wide of the mark.
      Blank Look
      • "Really!"

        Yes, really. If you cant understand why people would find faster speeds preferable when planning a holiday then there really isn't much else to say. All else being equal what do you think they are going to pick.
        Hubert Cumberdale
        • Have you ever travelled?

          Seriously you think people choose travel destinations on the speed of their Internet.

          This is beyond comical, well into delusional.
          Richard Flude
          • "This is beyond comical, well into delusional."

            What I find comical is your inability to comprehend what I have said. It's a pretty simple and straight forward concept to understand too.
            Hubert Cumberdale
          • Fancy...

            Being a CIO who is anti the I?
      • BB Availability does matter

        When on holidays many will opt for motels offering a decent BB service, rejecting those that don't, myself included.
  • HC

    I must discuss two issues with you here...

    "A $30+ billion taxpayer funded disaster"

    Because FttN would be a government initiative and such initiatives are always lazy, mismanaged and wasteful (as claimed many times by the anti-NBN FUDsters) using their logic, MT's plan must therefore surely blow out to $60B or $80B, don't you think?

    "Yes, I can see why the most feverish of coaltion supporters would go out of their way to defend this plan"

    You would think so, but personally I haven't seen too many actually doing so (as even them and their coalition emblazoned cleaning cloth are unable to polish such a turd). So they are simply continuing the old trusty... the NBN will be a white elephant, slow roll out...

    *rolls eyes*
    • "I must discuss two issues with you here..."


      "don't you think?"

      Possibly. Actually tbh it wouldn't surprise me since infrastructure is not really the coalitions thing after all, so cost blowouts are likely due to their lack of experience rolling out telecommunications networks.

      "You would think so, but personally I haven't seen too many actually doing so"

      Well yes that is true I'm guessing most are hiding from embarrassment so far but if the coalition win I think it will become more apparent either way...

      "NBN will be a white elephant"

      Of course if the coalition win they will redefine what the NBN is so it will be a self fulfilling prophecy here :-)
      Hubert Cumberdale
  • The argument is getting idiotic

    The coalition plan isn't to limit every connection to 25Mb and not roll out any fibre. If a tourist facility wants 100Mb (or 1Gb, whatever) fibre, it can have it. And hopefully it will cover the (relatively small) cost by charging the users.

    Heaven forbid that users should should pay for what they use. And what business person on holiday actually needs 1Gb to check on their business back home? What are they actually doing to use that much bandwidth?
    Fred Fredrickson
    • .

      ► "If a tourist facility wants 100Mb (or 1Gb, whatever) fibre, it can have it."

      Not on VDSL. For 1gbps, FTTP is required. There is absolutely no way the copper network will support that speed. Not even close.
      100mbps might be barely possible at the absolute best, on a new copper line and if you live right next door to the exchange. Which is to say, virtually nobody will get that on VDSL, even if the technology improves a lot.

      ► "Heaven forbid that users should should pay for what they use."

      People paying for what they use is exactly what will happen with a FTTP network. The government *lends* money to NBN co, and then people connect to the network and pay their monthly bills. People who want higher speeds and bigger quotas pay more for it.
      NBN Co makes money that way, and then pays the government back what it borrowed plus interest.

      And figures are showing that there are more people signing up for 100/40 and 50/20 services than they expected. So there's no question on whether they'll make enough money to pay it off.
  • Wireless is all that's needed.

    So Turnbull recently endorsed on air.
    Keeping in mind our politician's records on none-core & written in blood heat of the moment policies what are we likely to get from either party?
    In that vein lets take a simple analogy:

    1/. A national mobile phone network for approx $43B that's already underway.
    2/. A National roll out of walkie-talkies for approx $30B claimed to be faster & cheaper (if & when Telstra & Murdoch tweak it to their taste).