Can Samsung out-Apple Apple in BYOD?

Moderated by Larry Dignan | March 18, 2013 -- 07:00 GMT (00:00 PDT)

Summary: Can the Galaxy S4 help Samsung shake Apple's hold on the mobile enterprise?

Matt Baxter-Reynolds

Matt Baxter-Reynolds

Yes

or

No

Matthew Miller

Matthew Miller

Best Argument: Yes

77%
23%

Audience Favored: Yes (77%)

The moderator has delivered a final verdict.

Opening Statements

Samsung can provide what enterprises need

Matt Baxter-Reynolds: At the moment, Apple is an especially important device within the market of professionals who want to bring their devices into the work environment, simply because Apple does and has for a long time appealed to that demographic.

The real question is: If this dominance slips and Samsung has more of a representation in that demographic, is Samsung able to play nicely? Firstly, I do think iPhone will be challenged by Samsung in the near future, with a possibility of challenging the iPad a little further out. Samsung's devices are starting to get very interesting and mature.

Secondly, yes, I think Samsung can provide what enterprises need, and therefore can get on approved lists for BYOD support. The company's recently introduced Knox is one example of what they're doing. Moreover, I believe they will do everything to rise to the challenge. Samsung knows it has an opportunity and is spending and behaving like an aggressive player in all markets. Enterprise is just another market opportunity to them alongside consumer, government and education.

Android still seen as too open

Matthew Miller: My small company is a BYOD organization, for smartphones, and my last survey shows 75% of employees are bringing the iPhone. The IT folks seem to like it because it is a tightly controlled OS and it is easy for them to explain how to lock and wipe devices for basic security measures.

Samsung is attempting to make a stronger move into the enterprise space by including Knox and SAFE technology. I see a lot more advertisements for their business security features and they may eventually gain momentum here.

However, Android is still seen as too open for many companies and there has been a lot of press around malware and other malicious happenings in the Android space. IT also appreciates Apple's ability to keep people's devices updated with regularity while Android updates vary by carriers and manufacturers.

 

 

 

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  • Having shown sales pitches to others,

    those that say employees want freedom to mix personal and work lives and do work anywhere at any time, EVERY person I've showed such propaganda to has said they do not agree with the claims that the BYOD folk are pitching.

    But I do also know a couple people who did ask to have email routed on their tablet or phone... they didn't care for the terms and conditions, but that's what they want.

    Just wait until people have an on-the-job accident, but it didn't happen on-premises so there... assuming the person does any work from off-premises in the first place, since such abuse is not a rare concept...

    But if all these lines are being blurred, eventually even the most dim will see a light bulb turn on...
    HypnoToad72
    Reply 1 Vote I'm Undecided
  • The consensus will vote YES but the reality is NO.

    The BYOD is still controlled by the same group of people that took away choice in IT for the past 20 years. This group does not have "freedom", "choice" and "configurability" as their primary reasons for making a decision. This is not to say Apple will "win" the enterprise since I think MS still has a strong potential in that area due to entrenched positions. For most large companies, BYOD will still be BYOD ALAIIOTL (as long as it is on this list).
    Bruizer
    Reply 1 Vote I'm for No
  • Of course Samsung can ... but will they.

    No one even considers Windows RT a potential contender yet but that could be a game changer.

    To address the question though ...

    Apple without Jobs is a different company and is going to have to learn once again how to be agile instead of slow and steady. I think Tim Cook called it "incremental".

    Apple's success has been tied to Job's willingness to go his own way - but this approach also introduces incompatibility between iPad and other enterprise tools - namely Windows.

    Samsung has partnerships with Apple, Google, and Microsoft - putting it in an excellent position to offer BYOD tools which are fully compatible with other enterprise tools - including Windows RT should they choose.
    M Wagner
    Reply Vote I'm for Yes
  • What companies are these?

    Most IT departments consider smartphones an annoyance. BYOD is usually a nightmare. Use a work computer to get work done, use a work phone to talk to people. Use your smartphone to play games while you setting in the toilet. Don't try to be the "cool" guy that uses a smartphone to edit a spreadsheet.
    Sean Foley
    Reply 3 Votes I'm for Yes
  • Grrrrrrrrr

    Apple is the big slow dog, Samsung is the quick, aggressive, win with any tactics dog. Quick, smart, and focused almost always gets the job done....That said, perhaps the big dog will learn now that it is being constantly challenged. It has a head start, and plenty of "bulk" ($$$) behind it. Perhaps someone new at the helm?
    louishelps
    Reply 1 Vote I'm Undecided
  • Yes, No, Maybe, Do I Care?

    I'll just point out that if BYOD becomes Apple vs. Samsung, the secondary loser is Microsoft and the primary losers are the other mobile phone makers.
    DannyO_0x98
    Reply 1 Vote I'm Undecided
  • Microsoft will succeed

    let me digress a little, but i think MS has the potential to win big in BYOD, considering their foothold in IT
    Lawson Obarugbi
    Reply Vote I'm Undecided
  • Samsung will win.

    History has shown that closed source platforms have more attempts at attacks than their open source opponents. Also, the benefit of Android compared with other Linux distributions is that the average person can access it easily without having to download an ISO file, and mount it to a storage device or CD/DVD due to mass production of devices. On the other hand, with Ubuntu mobile, one might be able to carry Steam right in their pocket.

    Finally, people who write and release viruses and other malicious software are most likely to attack the platform with the greatest market share. Think about it. We are starting to see more viruses targeting OS X.
    Richard Estes
    Reply 2 Votes I'm for Yes
    • Not a single thing you wrote is true

      First of all, do you really think you are making ANY original statement here?!? There is no need to "think about it". Nothing you wrote has not been beaten to death a decade or more ago.
      Second, the thing you are asking people to "think about" is not even true. The "security through obscurity" myth is so easily disproved, it is laughable. Third, "we" are not "starting to see more viruses targeting OSX". Not by any metric whatsoever. First, there still are no viruses for OSX. If by viruses you incorrectly mean all malware, again, the rate of malware introduction has NOT accelerated, and there is NO correspondence between OSX market share and malware introduction rate. Care to post any empirical data to refute this? Good luck with that.
      Finally, as to your first statement, "history" has shown nothing of the kind.
      .DeusExMachina.
      Reply 2 Votes I'm Undecided
  • Samsung will win.

    History has shown that closed source platforms have more attempts at attacks than their open source opponents. Also, the benefit of Android compared with other Linux distributions is that the average person can access it easily without having to download an ISO file, and mount it to a storage device or CD/DVD due to mass production of devices. On the other hand, with Ubuntu mobile, one might be able to carry Steam right in their pocket.

    Finally, people who write and release viruses and other malicious software are most likely to attack the platform with the greatest market share. Think about it. We are starting to see more viruses targeting OS X.
    Richard Estes
    Reply 1 Vote I'm for Yes