Does Apple's victory over Samsung signal an early demise for Android?

Moderated by Lawrence Dignan | September 10, 2012 -- 07:00 GMT (00:00 PDT)

Summary: Jason Perlow says Android is toast. James Kendrick thinks one jury's ruling won't make or break a thing.

Jason Perlow

Jason Perlow




James Kendrick

James Kendrick

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Opening Statements

Android ecosystem will look very different

Jason Perlow: I hate to use my opponent's own words against him, but as it pertains to Apple's design and utility patents, he himself stated that "smartphones must be similar to the iPhone in order to sell" because customers may have strong fundamental biases towards aesthetics and functionality which Apple has hit on in spades. Don't yell at me guys, yell at Kendrick. He said it, not me.

As we have seen from the outcome of the Apple v. Samsung trial, the jury found that Samsung willfully infringed upon intellectual property patents which Apple held that caused customer confusion as to product origin and as a result, damaged Apple's sales.

Whatever you think about the "rightness" of the decision, a decision in a court of law is a decision in a court of law. And if that decision is ultimately upheld, then I think we can all agree that the Android ecosystem of the future will look very different than the one that we see today.

Android is simply too big

James Kendrick: The verdict in the Samsung/ Apple trial was indeed a slam-dunk victory for Apple but it isn't going to shut Android down. With 1.3 million device activations per day, Android is simply too big a snowball rolling down the hill.

Google does need to figure out an overall strategy to answer the never-ending lawsuits that Apple throws at the Android space. Meanwhile it will be business as usual in the Android smartphone world.

There are too many carriers and OEMs playing with Android for it to shut down. New Android phones are announced somewhere in the world almost every week, Apple threat aside. The fact is there is simply too much money to be made for fear from lawsuits to rule the day.

Tablets are the biggest exposure for Android, as sales have never amounted to much. The recently announced Kindle Fire HDs post a far greater risk to Android tablets than Apple.


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  • Obviously not

    Where else will the huge number of OEMs go?
    Windows phone 8? sure, it would benefit, but there is no way in hell that windows phone 8 can suddenly become the "go-to" phone OS

    Back to Symbian? hey, if Nokia was still pushing it, than it is a possibility, but now, symbian has NO potential, especially considering that Nokia did not release a single new Symbian at Nokia World.

    WebOS, well that doesn't seem likely, since WebOS still NEEDS a LOT of work. I find it ironic that "Web"OS has such poor HTML5 support.

    Meego? I seriously doubt it, since both major backers (nokia and intel) have backed away. The Jolla mobile guys might be onto something though, but I doubt that they can pull some mainstream success.

    So where does that leave us? right, android
    Reply 3 Votes I'm for No
    • Apple fan

      I've been an apple developer and fan since '86 but while I see android adjusting and perhaps being a bit more innovative I don't see it disapearing.
      Reply Vote I'm Undecided
    • Where else will the huge number of OEMs go? Simple. Microsoft.

      There is more money to be made selling Windows RT tablets and Windows Phone 8 than there is selling Android - and these OEMs become more or less un-sue-able. Of course, Windows RT and WP 8 are BIG unknowns but if I had to bet, I'd give Microsoft better odds than Android.
      M Wagner
      Reply Vote I'm Undecided
  • I don't think so...

    There are still court battles going on in 6 or 7 dfferent countries between Apple and Samsung, according to reports I've read. This decision is said to have been made by a bias jury? Let's wait and see if Samsung wins anything more.
    Reply 2 Votes I'm for No
    • Most Excluding the USA

      Have ruled against Apple.
      Guess this means (IF upheld in the USA) that the rest of the world will get the good stuff.
      Reply 5 Votes I'm Undecided
      • More innovation?

        Rulings in Apple's favor just make it necessary to be more creative if you're not Apple. And vicie versie. I've had to look for the big button on the bottom front or big Apple on the back of smartphones for quick ID'ing for a while now. That Samsung's phones look a lot like Apple's isn't exactly a revelation.
        Reply 1 Vote I'm Undecided
        • You mean like...

          Full QWERTY, big SAMSUNG on the front, and 4 phisical keys on the bottom. Are not differential enough?

          Yes US jury did ruled that such phone violates Apple design patent...

          There is no space left.....
          Reply 3 Votes I'm Undecided
          • The USA is not the world!

            Most people who have owned both Samsung phones and apple phones are aware of the significant number of differences between the devices and could never mistake one for the other.

            I honestly feel that if anything significant happens from this case, then it may be a revision of patent laws in the US where ridiculously wide patents are granted and where the government and courts have a tendancy to, shall we say "respect" US owned companies.
            Reply 4 Votes I'm Undecided
          • The patent system needs fixing

            Unless the US patent system is fixed, and stops granting wide patents on obvious tech, then backing USA companies even when it is obvious it is anticompetitive, then the US will become a backwater country for tech.

            Have no doubt, the rest of the world likes competition and choice and is a far larger market than the USA.

            Apple's 'win' just makes a mockery of the US patent system and will hurt the US customer's choice in future. The rest of the world will move on.
            Reply 1 Vote I'm Undecided
          • They're not identical

            But when I see someone holding a phone and only see the front screen I sometimes have to look for secondary clues. Set the iPhone and some Samsung phones side by side and they're obviously different, but at quick glance some of them can be confused.

            I own a Galaxy S 4G and I support about 100 users with iPhones. I should be able to tell at a glance, but I can't always.
            Reply Vote I'm Undecided