Can Whitman turn around HP?

Moderated by Andrew Nusca | September 26, 2011, 7:00am PT

Summary: Can Meg Whitman turn around HP? Jason Hiner and Larry Dignan debate whether HP's latest CEO can fix all that ails the computing giant.

Jason Hiner
Yes she can
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No way
Lawrence Dignan
Best Argument: No way
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Audience Favored: No way (56%)

Opening Statements

Restoring business-as-usual is job one

Jason Hiner: Leo Apotheker had the wrong vision for HP and unnecessarily put the company in disarray. The HP board realized it had made a massive mistake and wisely decided to move quickly to restore order inside the company and give the public hope that HP can pull itself together.

Meg Whitman may not be the ideal CEO -- she doesn't have the enterprise IT chops -- but she was one the best options HP had available and she's smart enough to hire or retain the right lieutenants. She'll immediately bring stability and her arrival will give the company a (mostly) positive spin that it could use right now in the wake of the Mark Hurd scandal, the Apotheker disaster, and the overall missteps by the board.

It's a solid short-term move. Whether Whitman can create a vision to lead HP into the next decade remains to be seen. But, for now, restoring business-as-usual to the world's largest computer maker will be enough.

None of HP's problems are quick fixes

Larry Dignan: HP Executive Chairman Ray Lane said that Meg Whitman knows leadership, communications and IT. "Meg was both a large purchaser of information technology for the enterprise, and ran a company that depends on technology to deliver its service," said Lane.  

If only it were that easy. Amazon's Jeff Bezos buys a ton of technology too, but I'm not so sure he could run a hardware and services company. Whitman's experience screams consumer, branding and strong leadership. Only that latter part applies to HP.  

Whitman can stabilize HP, but will be hard-pressed to make it hum. She'll need the operational knowhow of key execs such as Dave Donatelli, who runs HP's enterprise server, storage and networking business. The catch is Donatelli has been passed over as CEO material twice. Whitman also has to figure out the services business.

She'll make some progress, but won't turn HP around completely. Perhaps she sets the stage to hand off to another CEO. 

The Rebuttal

Great Debate Moderator

Welcome to ZDNet's Great Debate III
Welcome to the third installment of our new Great Debate series. This week, we're debating whether Meg Whitman will drive Hewlett-Packard into future success???or off a cliff.

Joining me are editors-in-chief Larry Dignan and Jason Hiner. Let's start big, gentlemen: What kind of company should HP be in the 21st century?
andrew.nusca 27th Sep
There are two choices
Well, that's the big question. That's the reason that we've ended up with the Apotheker/Whitman revolving door at HP. The company hasn't figured out what it wants to be all about. There are essentially two choices. Does it want to be IBM or Apple? Does it want to be an enterprise company that fades into the background a little bit but makes a lot of money? (That's the IBM equation.) Or, does it want to be a consumer brand that makes low-margin products but sells a lot of them and is beloved by the public? (That's more of the Apple direction, although Apple can demand better margins.)

Apotheker clearly wanted to move HP to becoming IBM. That's not a surprise since he came from another enterprise company, SAP. But, Apotheker didn't communicate that very well to either HP's troops or to the market. This should have been handled much more deftly. That said, Apotheker's strategy could still prevail, or at least aspects of it will.
Jason Hiner 27th Sep I'm for Yes she can
HP needs to get back to its roots
If I could answer that definitively I'd have one great day rate as a consultant. Another possibility is that'd I'd be CEO---at least until the board threw me out.

Seriously though. HP needs to get back to its roots. I've heard that from numerous employees both past and present. The problem: Its roots---science and engineering---may have been spun off with Agilent more than a decade ago. HP somehow thought it was wise to spin off Agilent and double down on PCs. Oops.

Whatever HP decides it wants to be when it grows up it needs to focus on research and development and carve its own path. The current model revolves around being someone else---IBM, Cisco, Apple, whoever's next. The problem is that HP has starved R&D at 3 percent of revenue all through the Mark Hurd years. Now HP doesn't have the financial heft to suddenly jump to 6 percent (IBM levels) or even higher. That's why I'm arguing that Whitman can't turn around HP. HP's R&D problems will last longer than Whitman's tenure if history is any guide.
Larry Dignan 27th Sep I'm for No way

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Interesting.
Interesting points.

Let's walk the walk and not just talk the talk, shall we? I ask: what assets does HP have now to pursue this?
andrew.nusca 27th Sep
HP: Printers and enterprise relationships
As I alluded to in the first question, HP will likely pursue an enterprise course as its main strategy (even if it decides to keep the PC business around as a boutique business). The company has built a solid server business, thanks to its Compaq acquisition a decade ago, and has strength in IT services thanks to its more recent purchase of EDS. Even more importantly, it has a long list of established enterprise and government customers who count on the company for enterprise solutions. That's where HP needs to put its focus.

The other big factor in its favor from an enterprise standpoint is the managed printing business. HP has done an excellent job in recent years of providing an end-to-end printing solution for enterprises. Customers don't even have to order toner any more. The printer alerts HP when it's low and new cartridges are automatically shipped. This may be a shrinking business, but the service itself shows that HP knows how to execute when it has a clear vision to work toward. That's what Whitman needs to provide now -- a clear target for HP's troops.
Jason Hiner 27th Sep I'm for Yes she can
On paper, you'd think that HP should be just swell
HP has a lot of assets. It has HP Labs, which is a historical name and still delivers good research. HP also strong businesses. PC, servers and printers are all No. 1. Networking is No. 3 behind Cisco and Juniper but has enough scale to be dangerous. Software is a small portion of overall revenue, but there's potential. And HP Services needs work, but isn't chopped liver. On paper, you'd think that HP should be just swell. However, Whitman's initial speaking tour focused on telling us that "HP matters." Really?!? Don't we know that already?

So why not argue the positive side like Jason? HP lacks the capital and patience to engineer a big turnaround in Whitman's tenure. She has to hit her numbers and build up the political capital to focus on the long term. Unfortunately, she has a pricey Autonomy acquisition to work out, three quarters of disappointment from Leo Apotheker and a strategy that doesn't look different enough. To get HP humming may take multiple decades.
Larry Dignan 27th Sep I'm for No way

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On to Question 3.
We wouldn't be debating this topic today without Leo Apotheker.

Tell me: where at HP did Leo Apotheker succeed? Where did he fail?
andrew.nusca 27th Sep
Right strategy, wrong message
Apotheker had it right that HP will need to focus on servers, software, and services in order compete as a global technology company over the next decade, but his timing and delivery of that message were poorly done. He needed to lay out a clear vision and HP's path to getting there before he started pulling the rug out from under the PC business and WebOS.

Because of the high visibility of PCs and tablets, when Leo made his statement, everyone lost track of the fact that his enterprise message had some merits and instead focused on him sinking the world's largest PC maker and killing a tablet and operating system that has often been considered one of the most capable competitors to Apple.
Jason Hiner 27th Sep I'm for Yes she can
He failed at nearly everything
Apotheker succeeded at thinking globally and pushing software more at least in theory. He failed at everything else.

Communications was a disaster. His last earnings conference call where HP killed the Touchpad, floated the idea of a PC business exit, and announced the Autonomy purchase was probably the most painful executive performance I've seen. It hurt.

Apotheker's biggest failure was not learning from his mistakes at SAP. The strategy looked decent, but the delivery and communication of it left a lot to be desired. You can't miss three consecutive quarters.
Larry Dignan 27th Sep I'm for No way

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Which begets Question 4.
We've talked a lot about the company, and we've just talked about the outgoing CEO, now let's talk about Whitman herself.

There's quite a bit of discussion in the TalkBack section below about how gender plays a role in all this, but I'll set that aside for now and simply ask:

How does Whitman's resume factor in? Which areas of her experience (eBay, gubernatorial run) will she draw from?
andrew.nusca 27th Sep
Whitman can command respect
The biggest asset that Whitman has going for her is that she can command respect. She's a big name and because of that when she speaks, people are going to listen -- even if they are initially looking for everything wrong with what she's saying in order to argue it. That's still big, because she's not going to be ignored.

Because of the messy divorces with Hurd and Apotheker, the bar is set pretty low for Whitman. She will likely get a honeymoon period where she'll get the chance to win over employees and the public. And then, her biggest task will be becoming a better storyteller than the past two CEOs and telling of us a good, believable story about the kind of company HP can become over the next 3-5 years.

She's definitely capable of that. She'll just need some good lieutenants to help with enterprise parts of the story.
Jason Hiner 27th Sep I'm for Yes she can
Resume is a conundrum
Whitman knows branding from stints at eBay, Disney, Hasbro and Proctor & Gamble. She'll excel at pushing HP. As for the governor run, Whitman knows how to campaign---but obviously needs work given she didn't win---and she will need those political skills to win over HP's employees.

On the bright side HP's problems look like a walk in the park compared to California's. At HP she actually has a shot at success.
Larry Dignan 27th Sep I'm for No way

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Looks like we've got some technical issues.
Larry Dignan is having some connection issues. Bear with us for a minute...
andrew.nusca 27th Sep

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Question 5.
...and we're back!

Next question: CEOs are great, but what constraints do HP's board and Wall Street have on the company's ability to innovate?
andrew.nusca 27th Sep
CEOs have plenty of room to operate
With the recent debacles at Yahoo and HP, there has been too much credit given to how much control a board of directors has. The CEO is the quarterback and she or he runs the offense and almost always calls the plays. If you win the Super Bowl, the quarterback is almost always the MVP. If you lose games you shouldn't, most of the blame usually gets directed at the quarterback. That's the price of being a leader.

As for Wall Street, when you're a public company, you live quarter to quarter. You have to manage expectations and you have to be a great storyteller to get a bunch of boring bankers excited about your company. The quarterly grind can stifle your long-term planning and investments at times, but almost all of your competitors have to deal with the same thing. That's the game.
Jason Hiner 27th Sep I'm for Yes she can
The burden of proof is on HP's board
HP's board has been dysfunctional for years. Lane has argued that this time is different and the board is new. The burden of proof is on HP's board. HP has to hit its numbers and that's a constraint. HP's board needs to stay quiet and become a background item. Wall Street is in no mood to hear that HP is going to double its R&D and marketing spend so that's a big constraint. I'd say Wall Street is probably the bigger constraint today. The board loves Whitman---at least for now.
Larry Dignan 27th Sep I'm for No way

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On to our final question.
Noted!

On to our final question, with three minutes left: which is a greater problem for HP: strategy, or execution?
andrew.nusca 27th Sep
Strategy with a big "S"
As I've said, HP's managed printing business -- which is purring like kitten -- shows that there are teams at HP that know how to execute. Of course, there's also the WebOS/tablet team that laid an egg with the TouchPad hardware, but I think that was due to a drastically reduced release schedule. If HP can get a north star to follow, there are still plenty of talented engineers and managers that can make good things happen.

Can Whitman deliver that vision? In the short term she'll just need to thread the needle between software and services and the likelihood of remaining in the PC business. For the long term, she (or the next leader) is going to need something more powerful to distinguish HP from just playing a little brother role to IBM.
Jason Hiner 27th Sep I'm for Yes she can
HP's ultimate strategy may take decades to play out
Today it's execution tomorrow it's strategy. If HP blew out its last three quarters, Apotheker wouldn't have been tossed. Whitman has the problem diagnosed: HP has to execute better.

Let's assume Whitman fixes those short term problems. The long term issues revolve around strategy and businesses under siege. Servers are threatened by the cloud. Printers are threatened by the digital age, e-readers and the like. After years of talk about the paperless society folks print less now. Less printing means less ink and a lot of headaches for HP. HP Services needs to move up market, but it's not like high-end consulting comes easy. PCs are under fire from mobile devices. Pick any market HP has and there are secular and competitive challenges.

That's why in the end, I think the clock runs out on Whitman. HP's ultimate strategy---assuming one is crafted---may take decades to play out. The best case scenario in my view is that Whitman sets the table for the next CEO, who will hopefully be an internal candidate that can stick to a multidecade theme. The first talkback below sums it up best: HP needs continuity, but it's unclear that the institutional knowhow is there to support Whitman or a long-term strategy.
Larry Dignan 27th Sep I'm for No way

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That's a rap!
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Don't forget to check back tomorrow to see our debaters' closing statements -- then again, on Thursday, for my verdict.

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Closing Statements

She will quickly re-establish stability

Jason Hiner

In 2011 HP has become a company suddenly in disarray and surrounded by uncertainty. It didn't have to be this way. While the company came into the year with a number of long-term challenges it needed to figure out -- tablets, the cloud, the low-margin PC business -- the issues should have been handled much more gracefully and with less disruption to existing business than how CEO Leo Apotheker did it. 

 
He had to go. He'd lost the confidence of employees and the public. Meg Whitman isn't a homerun as the new CEO. She doesn't have deep knowledge of the enterprise, where HP is likely to focus its business. But, she's a big name who will command respect and she knows how to inspire confidence in employees, investors, and customers. She will quickly re-establish stability at HP, and then it will be time to look ahead and figure out how HP can distinguish itself in the 21st century.

The clock will run out on Whitman

Lawrence Dignan

Meg Whitman may be the best CEO for HP at this juncture, but she has multiple challenges that may take a decade to fit. HP's challenge is that most of the low-hanging fruit has been plucked and now every one of its businesses have long-term secular and competitive issues. Whitman is a great communicator and branding expert and can win over HP's troops. However, in the long run the clock will run out on her. Ramping R&D, defining leapfrog moves and forming a multidecade vision is a lot to ask from a company that has had seven CEOs since 1999.

The best case is that Whitman stabilizes the patient and hands off to an internal candidate that can take the baton of continuity and vision. I see Whitman as potentially the first CEO of a broader relay for HP.

Larry edges out Jason: It's going to take more than one person to right this ship

Andrew Nusca

This may have been our closest debate yet. Both Jason and Larry made salient points about the good, the bad and the ugly for Hewlett-Packard. These are problems that affect every large company: a lot of innovation tucked into dark corners, but a lot of driftwood, too.

However, this debate was about whether Meg Whitman can turn the company around. And to that end, I think Larry edged out Jason: for a company with 300,000 employees and no direction, it's going to take more than one person -- and many years -- to right this ship.

Jason argued that "too much credit" has been given to the boards of directors of big companies. That may be true in some examples, but I think in HP's case it's clear who is -- to continue his sports metaphor -- choosing the quarterback. (NFL fans, consider the Vince Young-Kerry Collins debacle in Tennessee. Coordination often trumps raw talent.)

Meg Whitman has demonstrated her talent in spades, but the willingness of the rest of the company to change with her -- rise to the occasion, even -- is the deciding factor. Her failed gubernatorial run in California demonstrates that it's not always easy to change people's minds. If her biggest asset is commanding respect, as Jason suggested, she could easily and rapidly lose it. And then what?

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flyguy29 26th Sep I'm Undecided
There is nowhere but "up" for HP after a such an inept HP board and its chosen CEO. Hurd was at least certain of the direction of HP, but Apotheker was clueless, scrambling to save his job in the end, behaving like a desperate school janitor who got written up too many times. When the HP board gets together for all but 4hrs a year, screaming bloody murder at the quarterly stock report and just want a "magic bullit" CEO that can lead the company toward a strong product and services leadership position in a reasonable amount of time. The board behaves like they are on the golf couse for 364 days of the year and get upset when HP's earnings fall. They behave like the rich, aloof parents who drop their spoiled kid/ceo in private school and only check in when the principal calls. However, when one kid disappoints, the board merely adopts a new kid- so much for continuity.
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michaellashinsky@... Updated - 27th Sep I'm Undecided
@flyguy29

That is what I was thinking, ...but you said it so well!

I am thinking, "None of the above" since the board will undermine her, and then replace her, probably just far enough into the renovation process to make the house unlivable!

I actually feel sorry for her. She has been set up, and not in a good way!

(Just my opinion.)
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christian.verstraete@... 28th Sep I'm Undecided
@flyguy29 I strongly disagree with you. Hurd only knew one thing, cutting costs. He drove the company down the drain by reducing R&D, reducing collaboration, reducing the fighting spirit of employees. This only mantra was cost reduction. Actually, HP's vision at that time was cost reduction, this is how bad it was. Leo at least tried to come up with a vision, you can agree or disagree with, but it's a clear and consise vision. He could not communicate it and was unable to portray his moves with the vision in mind. There you have a point. Now, I don't know where you got that info of the board meeting for 4 hours every quarter, but that is far, very far from the truth. So, all in all, I believe HP has a vision that makes sense, give them time to execute it.
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csaager 29th Sep I'm Undecided
@christian.verstraete@... can't disagree completely, but the nail in the coffin was the 180?? change of direction - those who survived the first cut were hit on the second stroke.

Only - where is HP vision now?
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Accompagnatrici 26th Sep I'm for Yes she can
Great post.
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Larry Dignan 26th Sep I'm Undecided
@Accompagnatrici That was well done. You should be doing this.
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bunkport 27th Sep I'm Undecided
@Larry Dignan
Are you offering him your job? On the basis of saying "me too"?
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Rama.NET Updated - 29th Sep I'm for No way
I dont think so. Also HP needs a transformational leader not a transactional leader. Leo was never a transformational leader, but had an agenda for that. I see the same pattern here with Meg too. She is a great transactional leader, not a transformational leader. She has charisma, but how much board would allow her to succeed in using that charisma to transform HP into success is a big question.
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Meg is a celebrity CEO
voyager529 26th Sep I'm for No way
I foresee Meg having the same issue as Leo: Leo was very successful at SAP, where he made a mint selling software and services. He gets the helm at HP and tries to use the winning formula: software and services. I wouldn't bet against Meg doing something similar and trying to fix HP by turning it into eBay.

Whoever takes the CEO spot can learn everything they need to know in 30 days - spend 15 of those days answering the phone for consumer tech support, and spend the other 15 answering the phone for server tech support. That'll provide Meg - or whoever - a better idea as to what's broken than any stack of reports the executive VP's will give her.

Joey
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BitBanger_USA 26th Sep I'm Undecided
@voyager529
are you serious? answering the t/s line *might* be indicative of 'what's broken' but it surely won't show how or if to fix it. nor does that cover all of HP's woes at this time.
would you check the air in your car tires for assurance that the engine is fine?
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voyager529 27th Sep I'm Undecided
@BitBanger_USA

It's not just fixing broken servers or RMAing a laptop with a cracked screen. It's directly interacting with the customers. It's about seeing what goes on in the trenches that doesn't make its way to a report anywhere and interacting with the people who Meg is entrusting with the power to keep and lose her customers. It's about keeping the mindset of "tens of thousands of former customers have sworn to never buy our products again, but today, I refuse to add another to their ranks". I didn't say she'd STAY there, as there ARE other places she needs to visit, and in fairness to your point perhaps phrasing it as "everything they need to know" is a bit overreaching, but the principle is still a good one - and a necessary one - if HP wants to get itself a positive image.

Joey
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csaager 29th Sep I'm Undecided
@BitBanger_USA If Miss Whitman is intelligent enough, she might discover the pattern and understand the problem - this is always 80% of solving it.

Not sure if she will have the chance to get this first hand experience - middle-management will for sure prevent her to have a deeper look (seen before).

There is no need to waste your water on extinguishing the fire when your tires are flat in the middle of the desert - to pick up your metaphor.

I fear that HP's problem are deeper rooted and I am not optimistic that they'll have enough time to fix it. It is easy to fall behind in a race, but it very hard to catch up
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BitBanger_USA 26th Sep I'm Undecided
guess we'll see - or not...
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dbfarber 26th Sep I'm for No way
As the local SF local paper said ..."Whitman's campaign for governor failed because voters were repulsed that she spent $150 million but communicated little about her platform. Yet HP is hiring Whitman for what the outgoing CEO lacked - communications skills." If she and Ray Lane are not undoing the board approved Apotheker strategy...then what will be different other than Ray Lane and Whitman co-directed a transition to a better place? The question is are they clear where to go and how to get there and weather the difficult economy...I wouldn't say "No way" but doubt that she is a Lou Gerstner in an ability to come into a large, rumbling, factionalized corp and make the kinds of strategic shifts needed and see result fast enough to escape the axe
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alexh1@... 27th Sep I'm Undecided
@dbfarber

And it's aamazing that it does not bother anyone that she repeatedly lied publicly about her maids work status - perhaps a lack of ethics is a job requirement for CEO's!
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sboverie 27th Sep I'm Undecided
@alexh1@...
For public office it is a big deal; for a corporation position it is just par for the course.
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Guilden_NL 27th Sep I'm Undecided
@sboverie,
Not true. HP employees see through Lane's machinations and already don't believe a word coming out of the mouths of Lane and Whitman.

Without the team feeling that mgmt is on the same side, the game is already lost.
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amywohl 27th Sep I'm Undecided
This is a very tough job to walk into.

Long-term HP employees have seen the revolving door at the top and been unhappy for a very long time. Whitman will have to really listen to both customers and employees to figure out what's broken and where the vision needs to go -- possibly two very different things.

I can see why HP thinks being an enterprise vendor of software and services could lead to higher margins, but I doubt they could cut off half their revenue and buy and integrate enough software and services from whatever they get for it (remember, these are low margin businesses except for printer supplies and a few high-end printers) to still be a $125B company. Are they (and their shareholders) ready for that?
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tkejlboom 27th Sep I'm Undecided
@amywohl

Only 30% of HP's business is consumer. It's a lot, but it's low margin. HP was enterprise before it was consumer. Enterprise is its core.
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DigAPony1969 27th Sep I'm Undecided
@amywohl Yes HP is focused on the enterprise and PCs and printers are low margin. The thing is the PCs and Printers are a good seed product to open the discussion to servers, storage, converged infrastructure, services, support, outsourcing, and yes software.
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hryder666 27th Sep I'm Undecided
She might be able to pull it off if she fires EVP of Strategy and Technology Shane Robison. He's consistently missed the major shifts in technology and provided bad advice to HP's leadership. Moreover, there are strong rumors in the Silicon Valley that he's driving business unit CIOs to look elsewhere for job satisfaction.

If she doesn't dump Shane, HP shareholders will be looking at a stock price in the $10 range within the year.
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Guilden_NL 27th Sep I'm Undecided
@hryder666 Friggin WOWOWOWthOW! Not sure if you're in the same leaking HP boat as me, but you hit the nail on the head. Robison is a clueless idiot who has been in this role since Carleton bought Compuke in 2002. There isn't a day that goes by where he doesn't dazzle HP employees with his non-strategic approach.

Apotheker was on the war path, cleaning HP of clueless execs, and the light was just coming on for him about Robison.

Many problems with Apotheker, but he did see through the Hurd "Yes men" who didn't have a clue how to put the train back on the track. Will say that Apotheker's vision of spinning off PSG relied on the fact that Todd Bradley had no vision but was thought highly by the BoD. He should have stuck to his guns and fired Bradley for creating the low margin mess of PSG. (and others)
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allansiwawa@... Updated - 27th Sep I'm for No way
Nope she will strip down HP and outsource everything and cut jobs so it looks like they have turned around. The Shareholders will be happy for a season then back to the same troubles the are having. Sorry HP engineers and managers and everyday folk hope you have some savings coz cuts are coming.......
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norm@... 27th Sep I'm for Yes she can
There aren't many Lou Gerstner's out there. However, a strong leader would know that they need to use outside executive talent to "fix" trouble areas, and to hold each unit accountable for profitablilty. I believe she can do that!
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wmelmoth 27th Sep I'm for No way
Whitman has no interest in HP. It's just a photo op and an easy $100M. And she will be gone in a year.
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artful@... 27th Sep I'm for No way
No way. Carly Fiorina destroyed HP as a quality supplier, opting instead for mediocrity and volume.
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Swift2001 27th Sep I'm for No way
The problem isn't with Meg Whitman but with corporations being run by absentee landlords, the stockholders. This stock is not owned by the founders (they're gone), but largely by institutional investors and the like. Jobs would say, cut down your SKUs, design things from the ground up, make model names mean something instead of sounding like a parts order from Inventory. Sell to consumers. In other words, imitate Apple, the only really successful electronics manufacturer in the world today.

She won't, I predict, because she has Establishment Business training. She needs to be an artist.
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Gabriel Hernandez 27th Sep I'm for Yes she can
HP took a wrong direction with Leo Apotheker, but Meg Whitman will care now about making HP profitable.

1) Itanium is dead. The future is virtualization and cloud services based on high scalability x86 architectures. HP has made a great parthnership with Red Hat Linux to offer Red Hat Linux Enterprise 6. This is a great threat to Oracle and IBM offerings.

2) HP has great support. HP has experienced professionals to do difficult migrations from previous services to a Virtual Environment and Cloud based data centres.
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Can Meg Whitman Fix HP?
rle11wb@... 27th Sep I'm for No way
She can't even fix elections. She spent more of her own money on her candidacy than any other self-funded political candidate in U.S. history - and lost. To a former hippie.
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
Willnott Updated - 27th Sep I'm Undecided
In recent years HP has (unintentionally) offended just about every one of their customers, both enterprise and consumer - either by poor product or poor response to pleas for help. Add to that separation of PSG who have provided interface tools for the enterprise, whhich enterprise customers now must shop separately for. I believe a lot of this lies at the feet of the continued strategy to outsource. Admitted some recent compromise was made in that, but it may be too little, too late. A lot of damage needs to be outdone. Trust needs to be rebuilt at every customer level, and we all know by observing current White House occupant it can not be accomplished by verbalization, but must be learned by concrete actions.
Can it be fixed? Sure - will it be? Remains to be seen for now.
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
ajdimension 27th Sep I'm for No way
No - The consumer business (Her Background) is another
Planet -- Virtually no comparison.
A very poor choice.
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
gene@... 27th Sep I'm for No way
As long as new CEOs continue to concentrate of technology and markets, HP is doomed. HP was built on the creativity, ingenuity and dedication of its employees, and six years after Typhoon Carly passed, employee morale at HP is still in ruins.
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
mmeade@... 27th Sep I'm for Yes she can
When someone steps in as CEO or any position really, in a company, they shouldn't consider making it like the last company they were in. It's a new business and a new challenge. If you lay back and rely on what you have done in the past, you are doing it all wrong. I think she's smart enough to see that, and not try to craft HP around her, but to drive HP forward. Yeah, I think she can do it.
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HP has so many tech assets
kevinanorman 27th Sep I'm for Yes she can
HP has so many tech assets it has to survive. Get the right incentives and talent to manage it. Buy a big stake in a foundry. Hasten the mainstreaming of memsistor tech. Keep the PC division and bring back the HP67.
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
michaellashinsky@... 27th Sep I'm Undecided
I think she is there as a scape goat to set the next guy up in a better position. She cannot, because they will not give her a fair chance.
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
htaflusa@... 27th Sep I'm for Yes she can
There is still room for HP as a dominant enterprise player in both hardware and software. I would hate to see HP go away as an option on the hardware department. Our staff uses mostly HP products along with some Dell sprinkled here and there. I don't think the turn around will be instant but it will come, perhaps the company will never be the same again, but HP was broken and it has to be fixed.
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
duarte.rafa 27th Sep I'm for No way
I don't think she will, and I don't mean she's not a brilliant woman, what I say is HP lost the track a long time ago and now only a miracle could save it... I don't remember Meg can do miracles lol!
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
mymulticast 27th Sep I'm for Yes she can
This is my opinion and my opinion only - about women & men CEOs
Great business leaders & CEOs know how to run & lead a company (if you get a bad apple & one does not throw the rotten apple.... well you all know what takes place for the rest of the apples, they quickly turn rotten).

So my point is, GREAT business leaders are allway looking out for the whole company /its staff/shareholders and they are the best team players. They have one focus, and to produce strong revenues. As we all know this is what shareholders want... $$$ with results that is the bottom line.
So forgive me for my boldness, and at the same time, please give her a chance & see what she pulls out of her cool hat.

Ultimately this is the bottom line "revenues - sales" and the best wicked gadget & devices in the market. Time will tell, if she was the right choice or not.

TO all the boys club networks:
Give her a chance.
Women have a harder time to fit in the old boys elite club.
I say this from my own past & current experiences. I am a women of color & women in business, and this gives me double strikes.
I have to fight 100 times harder to get my word in or get an investor interested in what I am doing, or even be invited to a conference or be acknowledge by a particular group. I say this purely from my own experiences. So dear COOL boys here, from a women's point of view - GIVE MEG a chance & in a year debate this again, or keep it alive - I can help you with your social media campaign if you wish, at least you will have a great debate, you all can be totally proud and than get MEG to come an speak during this debate in a few months down the road. So here we go - if you are interested in forming a cool online campaign, contact me here is my online TOPIC #women4tech (me) and see if we can one day invite MEG to join our debate... something to think about .
SO give her a chance and lets see if she just turns things around for HP or not, give her chance folks Best Ashie via spain @mymulticast -
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
mymulticast 27th Sep I'm Undecided
Wanted to let you all know I am not a tech geek what so ever, I work with all the tech geeks and have a blast, suggest please include women in your dialogues they bring you great luck I believe happy @mymulticast
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
rjf@... 27th Sep I'm for No way
Is it just too difficult for a company to be a giant in both consumer and enterprise computing?
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
RoamingRoy Updated - 29th Sep I'm Undecided
Bill & Dave (Hewlett & Packard) must be turning over in their grave watching what has happened their formerly great company. As part of the HP Way they believed in addition to having goals of profits and revenue growth through satisfied customers, that their company should focus on fields of interest in which innovative, meaningful contributions were possible. Where has the innovation gone? What real original breakthroughs have been developed by the HP Labs since InkJet technology. The scope of future innovation has been severely narrowed since Carly Fiorina was hired as the first of many fleeting CEO's to divest HP of its Life Sciences and Chemical Analysis Group, Medical Group, Components Group, and Test & Measrement Group. I wish future CEO's success in bringing back what the HP Way really was meant to be in the memory of two great men.

Roy in Montreal
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
dryflies 27th Sep I'm Undecided
I don't know Meg Whitman Nor do I care. What I do know is that HP doomed itself by not continuing the culture of Dave and Bill after they passed away. As long as they were alive the culture remained and HP honored and respected its employees for the contributions they made to the company. The core competency of HP was that evefry employee from janitor up did their best. I woke up in the morning with a smile and asked myself "what can I do to help my company be successful today?" Ya, I drank the water, heck I breathed it. Then Dave died. and instead of focusing on it's core competency; dedicated employees thinking up disruptive technologies - That's key! Hp decided it wanted to beat the market at somebody elses game. At the time it was Michael Dell. Since then, HP has bandied about trying to find itself with little success. Can Meg Whitman turn THAT around? Focus on the employees and make them want to help the company succeed? Probably not.
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
laplatakid Updated - 28th Sep I'm Undecided
@mymulticast Excellent link! I agree 100% with Forbes. Read what Steve Wozniak says about HP in his book, iWoz. He loved them and would do just about anything for them.

I remember when HP was the premier manufacturer of scientific instrumentation and scientific calculators. Then the PC revolution happened and the rest is history. I won't buy another HP product, no, not even a printer.
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Not bloody likely
pwatson 27th Sep I'm Undecided
Without radical change, HP will not begin to recover from the abuses of the board and Hurd. Perseverance is in short supply in most of the business world. HP is in "let's make a deal" mode. The quick fix might be quick, but it is unlikely to fix anything. The quick fix usually exacerbates existing problems and creates new ones.

It is hard to see HP making enough changes to set a new course without some large pieces of the ship breaking off.
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
chapprg1@... 27th Sep I'm for Yes she can
Her challenge is integrating the Autonomy acquisition. With a thin R&D staff it will place great pressure on that remaining 3%. Can the rift with Oracle left by Apothaker be smoothed over to cover the transition? HP has always had great technical people, if they are directed coherently they may be able to pull it off.
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
Theseus 27th Sep I'm for No way
Another issue has to be employee morale. Given that the board has repeatedly gone outside the company for the CEO spot, why would any of the top talented executives bother sticking around H-P, with the same board in place?
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
Detfan 27th Sep I'm for Yes she can
Can't wait to get my HP Touchpad, webOS 4.5 at the end of next year!!
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HP needs to know what strategy to execute on.
daniel.pereznet 27th Sep I'm for No way
With eBay, Whittman was given a clear stratregy to execute on. Also, quite a few of HP's board is new. How much of HP's past success and failures is HP Boards responsible for. Worded differently, who are these Executives and what do thier resumes look like.

Look at IBM, they have grown past Enterprise IT and IS.
Look at IBM products and services and some of thier clients
then look at some of thier job opportunities. Like one I found to hire engineers with Natural GAS experience. IBM is applying technology to real problems using Applied Sciences- that goes beyond IT and IS. THe IBM strategy is loud, clear, is all over commercials and in every media stream out there. Plus, they have deep taleent, R&D and solid offerings to back it up

One comment in the debate was about how HP sold off valuable IP with that spin-off of Agilent.

So before they decide to keep or spin off the PC, sell off WebOS IP, before they dive head first into Software and Services....Whats the strategy?

HP's board and Whitman must decide. HP needs to know what strategy to execute on.
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RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
Summilux 27th Sep I'm for No way
Whitman is a poor listener. She has a high opinion of her people skills and a low opinion of others, including associates and run of the mill customers. She has no vision other than what she wants the mirror to tell her. Look at her - it's on her face and fake blond hair. I'm a Republican and was glad she lost to Jerry Brown.
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well done
eredar 5 days ago I'm Undecided
I agree with this all the way. It always come back to Iran. We have to be able to control Iran in the future before something big happens.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEUsfUTfvlg

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  • well done
    I agree with this all the way. It always come back to Iran. We have to be able to control Iran in the future before something big happens.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEUsfUTfvlg
    eredar 5 days ago
    I'm Undecided
  • Yes, She Can.
    I'm with her. She needs some powerful strategy for the great company.
    sourav_dey 25th Feb
    I'm for Yes she can
  • RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
    Can the board turn it over to Meg?
    tldent@... 24th Oct
    I'm for No way
  • RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
    Can the board let Meg have a shot?
    tldent@... 24th Oct
    I'm for No way
  • RE: Great Debate: Can Whitman turn around HP?
    far too early to make such a judgment. I'd say the odds are against "her" but this is not a job for an individual. If the Board and CEO keep pulling in opposite directions, we can bet on failure. Trouble is, that ends the CEO's job but it does not clean house of useless Board members. Meg would be well advised to a) revise the plan about dropping the PC business; b) allow the TouchPad to graymarket and not discourage that (and support whatever WebOS or secret-Android that it can run) and when the axe falls on her neck, to allow HP do to what it used to do well: choose a new CEO from WITHIN who really knows HP. It has been well over a decade since HP lost the "Way" and it is high time to get back to what Bill and Dave did, and knew, and it worked.
    tavent 11th Oct
    I'm Undecided

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