Details emerge of 'shocking' OOXML meeting
Summary: At last month's OOXML ballot resolution meeting, 81 percent of the technical issues around the format were apparently resolved without being properly addressed
As Microsoft's bid to have its Office Open XML specification made an ISO standard approaches the final deadline of midnight on Saturday, more details have emerged of last month's meeting in Geneva which attempted to resolve technical issues.
In the run-up to the dealine, some national standards bodies have changed their stance. Denmark has made a last-minute switch to approve Office Open XML (OOXML), while the British Standards Institution (BSI) has been advised by a technical committee to change its vote to "yes". The BSI today refused to say whether it will follow that advice, promising a statement on Monday; the vast majority of standards bodies will keep silent until after the deadline passes.
The silence around last month's ballot resolution meeting has been broken, however, with details supplied by a Brazilian delegate providing a "shocking tale", according to IT law site Groklaw's detailed post. The site links to the original meeting notes, and also suggests that South Korea's vote has changed from "no" to "yes".
Delegates to the meeting, held in Geneva, were presented with a decision like the one facing the central character of the movie Sophie's Choice, in which a woman has to decide which of her children will die, according to Brazilian delegate Jomar Silva.
After working painstakingly through a tiny minority of the issues which national standards bodies had raised with the OOXML specification, the vast majority of issues were lumped together and the delegates given four options: either accept them all, reject them all, hand them over unresolved to ISO's Information Technology Task Force (ITTF), or else go for a "batch-approval" vote. Silva called the last option "the least ridiculous", although it apparently ended up resolving 81 percent of the comments at a stroke.
It has also emerged from the list of attendees that, of around 120 people at the meeting, 17 of the national delegates were employees of Microsoft, as were two of the representatives of the fast-track standards body Ecma, while others, such as those representing Clever Age, are Microsoft affiliates, according to Groklaw. By contrast, IBM had nine delegates, Sun had two and Oracle had one.
With full details of the meeting only just emerging, standards makers around the world are evaluating whether it actually resolved their issues effectively. The Danish standards body, for instance, has said it is satisfied with the batch-approval of its comments. Others may not be sure yet but they have only got until midnight on Saturday to decide.
"The bottom line is that, in my view, this race will be too close to call until the final announcement is made on Monday or the vote reaches the public informally through one of the [national bodies], who will be given private access to the results once they are tabulated," said standards lawyer Andy Updegrove on his Standards Blog on Thursday.
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'shocking' OOXML meeting
Regrettably ....
What a mess!
Microsoft does not want a standard, they want the word "open".
On the positive side, of course, is that they again reveal what they are.
The best way to deal with a disese like Microsoft is to stop using them.
The sad thing is that ISO is making such a joke of itself.
Does that mean we should do nothing?
Come on, even Microsoft, like any good hunter, must enjoy the thrill of the chase!
Personally, I believe this current fight is in the balance. From here on in it will be down to which authorities have the steeliest nerve. Open standards are good. Vendor-dominated standards are bad (usually).
Not the end
Office will of course have some way of using OOXML. Will it also properly implement ODF? Will the folks that are already using ODF then implement OOXML? One of the main strands of protest is that implementing OOXML is all but impossible unless you are a package called Microsoft . So this leaves us with one file format that can bridge the gap between the various different document editors.
From there on we have two paths. Either the current momentum continues to push Open Office et al further and further into the light, a la Firefox. In which case the fact that there is only one properly interoperable file format, ODF, will take big lumps out of Microsoft's dominance and accelerate the progress of non Microsoft Office tools. The other path is that the current trend for biodiversity reverses and MS Office moves back towards 100% dominance, in which case the fact the ODF is in practice MS only, will be a huge boon for them.
I watch this space with interest.
I guess there is also the chance of...
After all, it's huge and hugely broken at the moment. I'm also fairly sure that ISO can't really restrict input/updates to OOXML to be from only Microsoft.
Given that scenario I'm what is the bet that (for good and not so good reasons) OOXML will be held up/mangled/fixed for too long for it to become useful to anyone.
If OOXML is approved ....
Case closed. Ergo, M$ can continue as they have for many years.
Of course, the object of securing a stable document standard for the future will not be delivered, and Microsoft will have generated an ongoing market for it's services.
You have to admire M$'s guile.
It's not all doom and gloom
That being said, I think there's oodles of money to be made for people willing to buy up rights to or reverse engineer older document standards and developing hooks so they could be updated to ODF. After all, I thought part of the gig with OOXML was supposed to be its capability (which seems on reflection to be absent) to read accurately old formats and render them accurately.