EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

Summary: Large enterprises should not use Linux because it is not secure enough, has scalability problems and could fork into many different flavours, according to the Agility Alliance, which includes IT heavyweights EDS, Fuji Xerox, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC.

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Large enterprises should not use Linux because it is not secure enough, has scalability problems and could fork into many different flavours, according to the Agility Alliance, which includes IT heavyweights EDS, Fuji Xerox, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC.

The alliance comprises a group of IT hardware and software firms that have combined their expertise and products to help EDS create 'best of breed' solutions and compete with the likes of IBM Global Services and Hewlett-Packard for the most lucrative government and enterprise contracts.

It was first announced in the US during 2004 but senior executives from partner companies gathered in Sydney on Wednesday to officially launch the Alliance in Asia Pacific.

At the launch, Robb Rasmussen, vice president of EDS Global Alliances, explained that the alliance does not consider Linux to be a suitable operating system for the largest of enterprise customers because the open source operating system has issues with security, scalability and the possibility of forking.

"From a corporate perspective, we are not confident where Linux is right now today. A large enterprise needs to be sure because it relates to securifying [sic] the environment. We see some of the same things occurring that did to Unix -- it could splinter into many different types of languages. We are quite cautious about Linux and its deployment," said Rasmussen.

Rasmussen said he was just as concerned about using Linux on mainframe computers.

"We are concerned about security on an open standard environment like that. We are also concerned about some of the scalability issues that we are seeing on our clients on a global basis. Also, we are somewhat cautious about what happened with Unix - it splintered into eight applications -- until McNealy (Scott McNealy, chief executive of Sun) finally announced he won the battle and had the one surviving Unix out there. We think Linux has the possibility of going the same route," said Rasmussen.

Additionally, he said that Linux is not significantly cheaper than alternative operating systems.

"Quite honestly, in the notion of costs, as we look at what we are structuring with our alliance partners, we are not seeing a compelling cost advantage that would lend us towards Linux -- given the other things I have mentioned," said Rasmussen.

Jim Hassell, managing director of Sun Microsystems Australia, argued that Linux was no loss to the Agility Alliance because it could use Solaris 10 instead of Linux rival Red Hat.

"If you test Red Hat against Solaris 10 against whatever else... we would say that Solaris 10 beats it hands down on functionality and everything else," said Hassell.

Topics: Open Source, Linux

Munir Kotadia

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Munir first became involved with online publishing in 1998 when he joined ZDNet UK and later moved into print publishing as Chief Reporter for IT Week, part of ZDNet UK, a weekly trade newspaper targeted at Enterprise IT managers. He later moved back into online publishing as Senior News Reporter for ZDNet UK.

Munir was recognised as Australia's Best Technology Columnist at the 5th Annual Sun Microsystems IT Journalism Awards 2007. In the previous year he was named Best News Journalist at the Consensus IT Writers Awards.

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  • Funny, but that's the first time I've seen "EDS" and "best of breed" used together in the same sentence without a negative somewhere.
    anonymous
  • prhaps EDS would like to 'securify' there managed systems here in the SA government...
    anonymous
  • prhaps EDS would like to 'securify' there managed systems here in the SA government...
    anonymous
  • More F.U.D. - and especially with Microsoft in the herd here, it makes it all the more evident.

    AS IF a company that wanted to integrate GNU/linux into their environment would use a heap of different flavours - that is almost an insult to the intelligence of IT management all across the boards.

    As stated, this is purely F.U.D. and should have been recognised by the supposedly intelligent staff at ZDNET Australia (Oh, wait - they're also allied with Microsoft - sorry - forgot that bit.)
    anonymous
  • Gods I wish these FUD-mongers would shut up and put up. Or at least try to compete on the basis of the actual merits of their software (although Microsoft has only one merit: a Moron friendly, clunky sack of excrement they call an OS). I ask you this, if Linux is so crap and can't scale... why is it running %60 of the worlds fastest supercomputers? and why does it continue to be the fastest growing server-side OS on the market? why? because it's secure, stable, and with the advent of 2.6 it's more scalable than ever before. I think we should also note who is in this alliance.. Sun and Microsoft? hmm... the two companies most threatened by the rising adoption of linux? I wonder why they would be so quick to spread F.U.D..... I think we know what's going on here.. Bulls**t on a grand scale...

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    anonymous
  • Obviously the comment about "securifying" came from the president of the US as part of his pro-monopoly strategery. (Bush is famous over here for mangling the language--he apparently actually said "strategery" once.)
    anonymous
  • "Follow the money".

    Not surprising to find that Microsoft wants people to believe that their only serious competitor in this space isn't up to par.

    As always, it all depends on your definition of *security*.
    anonymous
  • I am very troubled that a company with seemingly
    good pedigree, EDS, has people who are clearly
    reading and regurgitating fear, uncertainty and
    doubt being churned out by the likes of the
    Business Software Alliance and Microsoft.

    But then again, thanks for the comedy!
    anonymous
  • EDS was responsible for crashing 80,000 UK Government PCs:

    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1732672,00.asp

    Most of the desktop computers in the UK's Department for Work and Pensions were paralyzed for four days on Monday, when a failed upgrade took them offline. The outage, covering 75 percent to 80 percent of the DWP's 80,000 PCs, is one of the largest in the UK government's not entirely impressive IT history.
    And possibly one of the most costly. According to staff reports, the outage occurred on Monday afternoon, disconnecting staff e-mail, benefits processing, and Internet and intranet connectivity. According to one, a limited network upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP was taking place, but instead of this taking place on only a small number of the target machines, all the clients connected to the network received a partial, but fatal, "upgrade."

    Another source says that the DWP was trialing Windows XP on a small number ("about seven") of machines. "EDS was going to apply a patch to these. Unfortunately the request was made to apply it live and it was rolled out across the estate, which hit around 80 percent of the Win2K desktops. This patch caused the desktops to BSOD and made recovery rather tricky as they couldn't boot to pick any further patches or recalls. I gather that [Microsoft Corp.] consultants have been flown in from the U.S. to clear up the mess." EDS is also thought to be flying in fire brigades.
    anonymous
  • EDS does not have the experise to use anything other than Point and click. Even with MS Windows they crash systems and cost their clients. They are Microsoft's puppets and I would be concerned about their competence especially after they crashed 80,000 UK governemt PCs.
    anonymous
  • I find this disturbing since some companies like Yahoo and Google are using the insecure and unscalable solutions like Linux for their stuff...but what do they know? And what is up with Dell and Sun? They have major Linux investments in place.
    anonymous
  • Isn't it funny. McNealy claiming to have the "last surviving UNIX". What about HP-UX? AIX? Those aren't trivial companies either. Funny that both of the companies behind those UNIX flavors have large commitments to Linux. Further surprising is the number of losses Sun is sufferring at the hands of Linux concerns.

    Multiple splintered versions? Not possible. All draw from the SAME core software. The only possibility for differences is in the utility toolset. But the functionality remains the same across the board.

    ZDNet Australia should be ashamed at even propagating this FUD.
    anonymous
  • I suggest that Mr Torvalds speaks to Mr. Gates about security issues. Microsoft have created so many that indeed they are the definitive authority on the subject.
    anonymous
  • EDS is totaly clueless. The Navy Marine Corp Internet is seen as a total failure. They generally muck up most IT efforts they undertake. And with the likes of Micro$HAFT, SUN, and EDS, most that know better will view this as just more FUD.
    anonymous
  • I have to ask one quest. What DRUGS are these Guys ON? Where are they getting there information?
    anonymous
  • EDS and security (or M$ and security) aren't even close.
    Solaris 10 have some technical merits (DTrace etc), but it doesn't give Sun right to claim Linux is not scalable or secure (as opposed to having right to claim that Solaris 10 is scalable and secure)
    anonymous
  • What a load of crap mate!

    All OS have their ups and downs. Some just need a lot of help from spin doctors and lying ****s.

    Besides why pay for defective, insecure and otherwise lame operating systems or applications when you can get a better OS for free, not to mention with the source code included.
    anonymous
  • EDS liked linux so much that they wrote in their case study:

    The new Linux environment provides a level of security and stability unavailable elsewhere. Because it is open-source software, it also offers significant cost savings on licensing and allows EDS to provide faster, more responsive support because programming problems can be diagnosed and repaired more quickly.

    http://www.eds.com/services/casestudies/eds_instant.aspx
    anonymous
  • You notice Sun was giving face to Linux now they are backstabing linux, the same with Dell. Hmmmm, make sure you don't buy any equipment from Sun or Dell if you want Linux hardware. They have obviously shown there true colors, and never really liked or wanted linux, they just wanted the money from the hardware sales. I bet that if you called there tech support on a linux question all they would say would be switch to Solaris, or Switch to Windows, or This wouldn't happen on (Solaris/Windows). McNealy and Dell are nothing but backstabing windows brown nosers.

    And what was that comment about Sun being the only Unix left. Last time I checked there were a couple others like AIX and HP-Unix. Too bad Novell can't pull there Unix License, then Sun would really be hurting.
    anonymous
  • What a load of cobblers! Just goes to show how much Linux, and other Open Source projects, are eating into a market once dominated by proprietary vendors. This statement is good old fashioned FUD - designed to spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt in the minds of people who are thinking of dumping their virus infected MS PCs and servers, realising there are much cheaper alternatives to cisco routers and the like.
    anonymous