Fedora 15 (Lovelock) Released

Fedora 15 (Lovelock) Released

Summary: The new release from the Fedora Project, release 15 with codename "Lovelock" was made available for download yesterday. Fedora releases are always awaited with significant anticipation, and this one has been no exception.

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The new release from the Fedora Project, release 15 with codename "Lovelock" was made available for download yesterday. Fedora releases are always awaited with significant anticipation, and this one has been no exception. The biggest news about this release, in my opinion, is that they have changed to a Gnome 3 desktop. As far as I am aware, they are the first "major" distribution to use Gnome 3 as their default desktop. Because of that, and the obvious comparisons to Ubuntu's recent release of their Unity desktop, this will be the primary focus of this writeup.

The distribution is available from the Fedora Downloads web page. You can copy the ISO image to a USB stick by using their LiveUSB Creator utility, or you can simply "dd" the image to the USB device. Boot the Live image, and you are ready to install. Installation is fast and fairly simple - while it was installing, I was thinking about how far anaconda has come over the past few releases. When you reboot after the installation finishes, you'll have to fill in a bit more information about the default user account to be created; once you have done that, you can login and you'll get this screen:

Fedora 15

This is a "standard" Gnome 3 desktop, with the panel across the top showing a few typical icons and controls. (If your hardware is not up to running Gnome 3, the installer will fall back to a Gnome 2 style desktop) To start an application, either click the "Activities" icon at the top left or just move the mouse to the extreme top left corner. That will produce this activities screen:

Fedora 15

There is the Favorites bar down the left side, roughly analogous to what Unity has, and a control to select display of "Windows" or "Applications". In this case the Windows display is empty, because I don't have anything running yet. If you click on "Applications", the screen changes to the application selection screen, like this:

Fedora 15

The initial display shows all of the applications, but of course there is a categorized list down the right side of the screen which can be useful (if you know what category the application you are looking for is in...). At the top right of the screen is a Search box, where you can type in any part of the name or description to get a list of matching applications. It is also quite easy to add applications to the favorites list, just right-click on the icon and select "Add to Favorites", as I have done for the Terminal and Screenshot applications.

Launch an application by clicking its icon, either in the main list or on the favorites list, as I have done here for Firefox.

Fedora 15

Here you get your first look at one of the most controversial changes in Gnome 3. Look at the top right corner of the window... no Maximize/Minimize buttons! The Gnome developers have decided that those buttons are unnecessary or even unwanted, for a variety of reasons. In a nutshell, the theory is that maximize/unmaximize can be done very easily by double-clicking on the window title bar, and minimize is potentially confusing because with the new desktop design there is nowhere to "minimize to". Yes, you read that right - there is no taskbar, window list, dock or whatever to show minimized windows, so they just sort of "disappear", which I agree can be disconcerting at first. Minimized windows are shown in the "Windows" list mentioned above, and can be selected from there. It will be interesting to see how all of this works out, but I can say for sure that after the controversy over Ubuntu moving the window controls to the left side, this change is likely to create even more of a fuss.

What else is there to say about this new launcher? Well, for one thing getting multiple windows of the same type open turns out to be a bit of an adventure the first time. It turns out that the obvious choice, simply clicking the application icon again, just takes you back to the application you have open already. Most applications have some sort of a "New Window" item in their "File" menu which will get the job done, but that's not always very convenient. What you actually want to do is right-click on the application icon, and choose "New Window" - not so bad, once you know it. Another interesting tidbit in the Windows display, you can actually close a window from that point without actually activating it again. When the mouse cursor is on a window an "X" button is added to the top right corner, clicking that will close the application.

However you do it, getting multiple windows open on the desktop is not a big deal:

Fedora 15

The windows will be arranged, stacked and managed in more or less the same way as with previous Gnome release, with a couple of interesting additions and improvements. Right-click on the window title bar, and you will get a list of window management options. This makes things like "always on top" nicely accessible, and it adds some new options for managing workspaces, such as "Always in Visible Workspace", or "Move to Workspace".

For Workspace management, go back to the "Activities" screen shown in the second screen shot above and look at the right side of the screen. That thing which looks vaguely like a large scrollbar is actually the Workspace Management area. Move the mouse cursor to the right edge of the screen, and it will expand to show the available workspaces and their contents, like this:

Fedora 15

I find this to be significantly better than workspace management was in Gnome 2. I have spent too much time squinting at the tiny icons in the Panel, trying to guess which one contained the window I was looking for (I know, it's my own fault...). Here you have a nice big display of each workspace, you can see pretty well what is happening on each of them, and the display is even dynamic - if there is something changing on the display in the workspaces, you will be able to see the changes in the Windows selection area and in the Workspace selection area. Clicking on one of the workspaces will display the windows from that workspace in the Windows selection area. This is good stuff.

Ok, that's enough to digest in a first quick run through Fedora 15 and Gnome 3. What about the results of actual installations? Well, I think the best summary I can give is "mixed". On my main laptop system, which is a "bog-standard" Intel system that is 2.5 years old, Fedora 15 installed very easily (and very quickly), and absolutely everything works. I assume that this will be the case with most desktop and laptop systems which are not pushing the leading edge of hardware components. However, on my very new sub-notebook and netbook systems which have very new WiFi adapters and touchpads, things didn't go as smoothly. The driver for the Broadcom 4313 wireless adapter (brcm80211) is not included in this release at all - even though the firmware for it is included. I asked Adam Williamson about it, and he explained that this is because the driver is still in "staging", and staging drivers are generally not included in the Fedora distribution unless someone at the Fedora Project is directly involved in the development. Well, fair enough I suppose, but I think there are going to be a lot of disappointed and confused people as a consequence of this, so I hope the brcm80211 driver is added in a Fedora update before too long. On my newest sub-notebook, the HP Pavilion dm1-3105ez, the situation is even worse. The driver for the Ralink 5390 wireless adapter is also not included, and although I have been able to compile and install the driver for it on every other distribution I have tried so far (openSuSE, Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, Mint Debian and Mepis), I wasn't able to do so on Fedora 15. This might be my own failure, I'm still looking into it, but at least it does not work when I do exactly the same as I did for the other distributions.

To top it all off, there is the joy of the Synaptic ClickPad. Sigh. I really wish someone at Synaptics had decided to use these things as earrings or something, because they are a royal pain the in rear, even when they work! Fedora 15 at least recognizes them and the basic functions of moving, clicking and tapping (if you enable it) work. But it doesn't recognize them as "ClickPad" devices, which is a bit surprising because Fedora 15 includes the synaptic driver version 1.4.0. The result of this is that the right button doesn't work, which is not a good thing, but even worse it is basically impossible to click and drag something. It is mildly amusing at first to watch what happens as things zoom wildly around the screen, but that entertainment value lasts about 5 seconds, then frustration and the need to get some work done take over, and you dig out a USB mouse to use instead. This is really unfortunate, when you compare it to the way that openSuSE 11.4 has finally gotten the ClickPad just right, and it is actually quite usable.

Whew. That was longer than I had intended it to be, but I suppose with a release which makes changes of this magnitude it is to be expected. My personal summary is that Gnome 3 seems pretty nice, and I have made a lot more progress in adjusting and adapting to it, and actually starting to like it in a relatively short time than I ever have made with Ubuntu Unity. I think for Fedora loyalists this will be an excellent new release, if they are willing and able to accept Gnome 3; the same is probably true of those who are new to Fedora but at least have supported hardware. But for those with "difficult" hardware, such as my WiFi adapters and ClickPads, it would take a lot of determination to stick with Fedora 15 when there are a number of alternatives with much better support for those devices already available.

jw 25/5/2011

Topic: Linux

J.A. Watson

About J.A. Watson

I started working with what we called "analog computers" in aircraft maintenance with the United States Air Force in 1970. After finishing military service and returning to university, I was introduced to microprocessors and machine language programming on Intel 4040 processors. After that I also worked on, operated and programmed Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-8, PDP-11 (/45 and /70) and VAX minicomputers. I was involved with the first wave of Unix-based microcomputers, in the early '80s. I have been working in software development, operation, installation and support since then.

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  • I just tested it a couple of minutes back (and the buggy betas). I can confirm about the minimize/maximize buttons. I came across a slight... "trouble" when I launched Disk Utility; I could not scroll down and I saw a couple more buttons at the bottom which were not accessible (not sure 'bout other programs). I hope this is just a temporary bug. However that killed my enthusiasm to install it. I could feel that the whole GNOME 3.0 thingy is no different than Unity. I'm worried about those Unity haters previously who totally disagreed with Unity because they probably would be eating their own words. I like Unity and GNOME 3.0 but the only thing that cut me off was the lack of desktop-customization in both desktops. GNOME 3.0 seems to be the next "Unity". Whatever the outcome is the basic principle must be preserved; and that's "Choice". Unity failed that part IMHO.
    anonymous
  • I may have missed this in the article, but a useful shortcut to reaching the activities screen is to press the "windows" button (only works if you have a windows keyboard, of course, but there may be a mac equivalent.
    anonymous
  • I meant "windows" key, of course...
    anonymous
  • @Bert Steve - There are a lot of similarities, in both concept and implementation, between Gnome 3 and Unity. I agree with you that choice and flexibility very important, and that Unity fell well short of the mark. I am encouraged by Gnome 3 so far, but I need quite a bit more time working with it to be sure. Thanks for reading and commenting.

    @Jesse Cape - Right you are, I had not noticed that the "Windows" key would do that. Thanks for pointing it out.

    jw
    j.a.watson1
  • Thanks for the write-up on this. When I originally saw that Gnome 3 was going to be included in Fedora 15 by default I was skeptical. But after reading your review I'm much more optimistic about it, and am looking forward to seeing it first-hand.

    I have read that Gnome 3 can be switched to "fallback mode" -- instructions for doing so can be Googled. This is supposed to bring back some of the Gnome 2 look.

    But this is the future, we should take the time and learn it and adapt. It's a big UI change but it seems to even out when you account for the pros and cons. However I think one of the first things that is going to be missed is Gnome 2's numerous options for customization which Gnome 3 will hopefully introduce back in later on.
    Chris_Clay
  • @apexwm - Perhaps the development of Gnome 3 will be similar to KDE 4. The initial release showed a lot of promise, but still had a long way to go, but the subsequent releases got steadily better. Time will tell. Thanks for reading and commenting.

    jw
    j.a.watson1
  • I tried out the beta recently, and was pleasantly surprised at gnome 3, even though I think the loss of gnome 2 is going to be a problem for enterprise/science environments (too conservative!). My favourite feature was being able to open up another program just by tapping the 'special' key and typing the first few letters and then pressing enter - much like gnome-do functionality (but in my experience a little bit more reliable)
    duncan j murray
  • To save everyone time and effort, instructions for enabling the "Gnome 3 fallback desktop" can be found here:

    http://www.rootninja.com/gnome-3-fallback-desktop-better-than-gnome-3-itself/

    Thank goodness! I could never risk installing Fedora 15 without knowing that this option existed.
    Zogg
  • Thanks Chris, that is very useful information.

    One other thing, which I just checked based on the comment above from @duncanjmurray above. As previously mentioned, the "flag" key (some call this the "Windows" key) will bring up the Activities screen; if you then simply type something, it will go into the search box and a list of matching Applications will come up. This is indeed a very useful feature, and it is not entirely obvious because when the Activities screen comes up, the Search box is not shown as selected, so I have always been clicking to select it first, and then typing. This tip saves me having to select it - very nice. Thanks to @duncanjmurray for this.

    jw
    j.a.watson1
  • Once again thank you for an excellent review that sheds light on the Gnome in the corner of the room that I've been ignoring for the past few months. I feel like a command line stalwart as I have a sneaking suspicion that I won't be making any change soon, for as long as my 5 year old laptop keeps going....
    Jake Rayson
  • I tried installing Fedora 15 on one of my desktops last night, and I am less than impressed. I really cannot imagine why I should suddenly need to change how I interact with my PCs. If this new approach is "just the thing" for tablets with touch-screens, then fine. Except I have neither. For me with my ordinary desktop PCs, Gnome 3 is different in exactly the same way as a square wheel is different.

    Switching to the fall-back desktop reveals that it (apparently) doesn't support either multiple workspaces or compositing. I hope I'm wrong about this, because otherwise I can see myself dumping Fedora 15 completely.
    Zogg
  • Would be great if this thing actually loaded on my pc. The live disk doesn't work for me at all. Downloaded the iso three times, burnt it to several disks and it still doesn't finish booting correctly. Would seem it doesn't like my hardware which is a few years old. Works on a friends brand new pc, and not on another friends pc which is several years old. Hmm. If I was a new user considering using Linux, this would put me right off. Thank goodness we have Debian, Ubuntu, Linux Mint et al. And Gnome 3? Yuck quite frankly, although I was happy to see what all the fuss was about, I found it awful, not intuitive in the slightest, and again letting a potential new Linux user at it, I found it turned them right off. They had no probs with KDE, Gnome2, or Unity, but Gnome3 is just not a good idea. It's probably a good idea for the Gnome guys to do what they said and make their own Gnome distro, at least we can fork what we like about Gnome2 and leave them to mess up their Gnome3 etc.
    dmspar
  • @dazzas
    According to some bug reports I found, Fedora 15's installer needs at least 768 MB of RAM to run in, and is probably happier with 1 GB. Apparently, they plan to address this for Fedora 16(!).

    The GNOME3 shell is also "picky" about your graphics hardware, and will drop back to a fallback session if it doesn't think your card is good enough (e.g. ATI R100, R200 etc). However, the original "GNOME + Compiz" session is still available, and you can choose to use that at the login screen. That said, this session is currently buggy - don't try to launch an application from an icon that you've dragged to a panel, for example.

    I'm using the GNOME3 shell right now, and find it much improved by two small discoveries:
    a) I can restore the windows' "minimise" buttons via the gnome-tweak-tool, and
    b) GNOME will display all windows on the desktop when I move the mouse into the top-left corner of the screen.
    Zogg
  • Instead of finding all this stuff out the hard way, I suppose we could always cheat instead:

    http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet

    :-)
    Zogg
  • "According to some bug reports I found, Fedora 15's installer needs at least 768 MB of RAM to run in, and is probably happier with 1 GB. Apparently, they plan to address this for Fedora 16(!)."

    The high memory requirements of the Fedora installers have always puzzled me. In the past I've found that installing in VNC mode usually gets around the issues and gives you the full graphical installer. Simply press Tab at the first boot screen when you boot the install disc, and type in "vnc" and hit enter. At the point that the graphical installer starts up, VNC will start and you will be given the IP address to use from another system which will give you the full installer.

    What's even more interesting, is that the installer requires more memory than running X11 with everything installed and running.
    Chris_Clay