Google Plus deletes comments in Gmail; Facebook doesn't
Summary: If you need to keep copies of comments on Google Plus, you have to save them separately. You can’t rely on emailed comments or on “emails” from G+, because Google deletes them from your Gmail inbox if someone removes the post
Google is integrating Google Plus, its struggling bulletin board system (BBS), with other offerings such as Gmail.
One of the benefits is that you can post comments directly from your Gmail inbox, without having to using G+'s slow and clunky interface. One of the drawbacks is that Google can delete these comments from your inbox, without asking you.
G+ notifications look like emails in Gmail, and most users would consider it an outrage if their email supplier deleted emails behind their backs. So, if you want to keep these Gmail comments, you must either save them or forward them to another email service.

It's a good idea to do this anyway. Forwarding all Gmail to another service, such as Yahoo Mail or Microsoft’s Outlook.com, provides a backup in case you are ever locked out of Gmail, or vice versa.
You might even consider switching away from Gmail entirely, on the grounds that you can no longer trust it. For example, someone who sends you an "email" message from G+ can edit it later, to change the contents, or delete it from your Gmail. They cannot do this if you use a different email service, beyond Google's control. (Tech experts may know these are not really emails, but I suspect most people will be confused by their appearance.)
You must obviously keep separate copies of your own comments, since G+ doesn't email you copies of these as part of the standard set-up. Indeed, if you are going to spend a significant amount of time making non-trivial comments, it's better to put these on your own blog, where you have control, rather than providing another service with free editorial to sell ads against.
One of the main topics of conversation on G+ is the awfulness of Facebook. However, when Facebook emails you other people's comments, at least you don't have to worry about them disappearing later.
Of course, comments on bulletin boards are always at the mercy of whoever started and/or owns the thread. If someone on a forum deletes their original post, all the comments usually go with it. When someone deletes a post on G+, the same thing happens. That shouldn't be surprising. What isn't normal is that email copies of comments get deleted as well.
If Google is going to do this, it should warn people in advance, rather than obliging them to learn the hard way.
Amusingly enough, I learnt this the hard way by making comments that were critical of G+ on a post from a Google employee/G+ evangelist. (It is, obviously, shocking that anyone should have the temerity to criticise G+ in public. Anyone who does this is a troll to be blocked, if not sent to jail without passing Go.) By deleting his G+ post and/or blocking me, Mr A Googler also removed the only visible copies of my comments. These could have been useful to anyone writing a blog post along the lines of "The top 5 reasons G+ deserves to die", though the system's failings may be too obvious for this to matter.
As it happens, I do have all my Gmail emails forwarded to another mailbox, but I don't think many people take this simple precaution. It could be important if there is a dispute.
Otherwise, I've just been distracted by some racy Facebook comments about journalistic shenanigans and PR failures. I wasn't wildly surprised when the group hosting these old stories seemed to vanish overnight, but I knew that whatever I'd missed would have been piped past my Gmail inbox into a Facebook "folder", so I could read them later. And I did.
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Saving Google+ posts / comments
"G+'s slow and clunky interface"? :-) Oh dear. Now I see why Apple is the most used word on your Google+ posts.
Yahoo mail, are you serious? :-)
Sorry but the article made me laugh.
"You might even consider switching away from Gmail entirely, on the grounds that you can no longer trust it."
Google does not delete any comments, the users who posted them in the first place CAN do that. Please get you facts right.
#Linkbaiting
What a joke
Did you really commend Gmail users switch to Yahoo? And then to accuse Gmail of not being trusted? As Janna above me said, 'Please get your facts right'.
Its called Cascade Delete
:)
Another reason to use G+
And why on earth would you write a blog post on why G+ needs to die? What did G+ ever do to you? (I mean other than preventing you from using someone's deleted words against them?)
Facebook on the other hand, never deletes anything. They say they do, but they don't. When people request their data to be downloaded, they get stuff they deleted.
Google+ is a BBS?!?!
I used to run a BBS. Google+, or even Facebook, are not BBS's. It seems to me the author was stopped using the Internet around the time of AOL and is seeking to return to online life. My suggestion is that he brush up on "what the kids call it these days" before posting online.
Seconded
My own experience with Google censorship
Why? I think that I said something unforgivable in the old groups, though my death penalty is clearly beyond that. What was unforgivable? I really don't know, though I had said that I believed the google could do more to stop spam.
I used to think Google was sincerely trying to make the world better. Now I think the Google has become fundamentally evil and controlled by the love of money, and insofar as they are the leading high-tech lobbyist, they are increasingly to blame for their own evil. The rules of the business game in America are written by the most easily bribed politicians working for the LEAST ethical businessmen--which now includes the google.
Whoops. Sorry about the double post
I suspect the death penalty was based on a comment in the old Groups, but the systems it extends to now include a bunch of other systems, including many of the so-called support systems of the google's other products. I'm not even sure comment was recent, since I'd using the newsgroups for many years. Maybe they dug up comments they didn't like from before the existence of the google? Aye, there were flamewars in those days, but actually if my words were sometimes harsh, I tried to keep them measured... My harshest comment were probably directed at a fellow who became a rather prominent lawyer...
My own experience with Google censorship
Why? I think that I said something unforgivable in the old groups, though my death penalty is clearly beyond that. What was unforgivable? I really don't know, though I had said that I believed the google could do more to stop spam.
I used to think Google was sincerely trying to make the world better. Now I think the Google has become fundamentally evil and controlled by the love of money, and insofar as they are the leading high-tech lobbyist, they are increasingly to blame for their own evil. The rules of the business game in America are written by the most easily bribed politicians working for the LEAST ethical businessmen--which now includes the google.
This article is hilarious
"BBS"? Oh god. You have no idea about what you are talking. :)
The article is extremely comical
I highly recommend that you read these two articles:
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_network_service
Now, let me address your rant about Google "deleting emails."
First of all, they're not even "emails." They appear as emails in Gmail to make it more consistent with Gmail's UI, but they are just notifications. Facebook's system removes notifications when a post or comment is deleted as well.
The reason it "deletes" is because when the post is deleted, it's not right to keep an exact copy of the post in someone's inbox.
If you use a desktop mail application, it won't be deleted. Same with using the mail application on your phone. Google only controls the Google+ 'email' notifications in the Gmail web client.
A trick I have found out is that if you double or triple click a Google+ email in Gmail, it will actually show their normal email message that they send when you get a notification of comments and it won't load the interactive layout.
The only reason Facebook doesn't "delete" notifications when a post is deleted is because they cannot. I bet if Facebook owned a popular email client like Gmail they'd be doing the same exact thing.
Facebook can't control emails because once an email is sent out by their system it's out of their control. Google+, on the other hand, is owned by Google which is the owner of Gmail so they can make it a better user experience by allowing you to interact within the Google+ "email" notification.