HTC ditches large-screen Windows Phone plans: report

HTC ditches large-screen Windows Phone plans: report

Summary: Reports suggest HTC has scrapped plans to develop a Windows Phone with a larger screen due to resolution flaws.

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HTC has scrapped plans to develop and manufacture a Windows Phone with a large screen due to resolution issues.

According to Bloomberg, the planned Windows Phone would have a lower resolution than other models available on the market, and so would not necessarily be a competitive force against smartphone makers including Apple and Samsung.

The Taiwanese firm has therefore ditched the idea, citing the reason that Windows software does not support resolutions that are as high as Google's Android operating system, according to "a person familiar with the project."

Whereas Windows software supported a screen resolution of 720 horizontal lines, the Android OS is able to support 1,080 lines on smartphones and tablets.

The reports of HTC CEO Peter Chou's decision to cut the project short means that the Taiwanese handset maker is left with only Android-enabled smartphones that measure over 5-inches diagonally, and if Microsoft has lost a model which held the appeal of an extra-large screen, it may result in a further blow to the Redmond firm's aim to gain more of the smartphone marketshare.

The large-screen Windows Phone was due to be launched next year. However, smaller HTC models using the Windows operating system have recieved strong reviews, and so other features may be enough to sway smartphone users to giving Microsoft and HTC's offerings a go. 

Topics: Hardware, Microsoft, Mobility, Smartphones

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  • Marketing gimmiks

    First of all higher resolution is not always better and 720P resolution on a 5 inch screen is more than good enough.

    Windows 8 supports tablet resolution of up to 2560 * 1440.

    Android sellers are fooling consumers with silly specs like 1080p and 8 core things...

    Performance or beauty, WP8 is miles ahead of Android.
    Owlll1net
    • Agreed

      720P is more than enough for most peeps. Honestly 5" or more on any phone looks ridiculous. When I picked up my Lumia 920 at the AT&T store I checked out a Galaxy Note...OMG that thing is awful. I was laughing as I tried to wield this tablet like device. When I placed it next to my head it was brick like! I thought to myself this is the modern day boom box. Using one of these phones for voice would be like the guy at the Christmas party rocking a 10" tablet for pictures. DON"T BE THAT GUY!
      Rob.sharp
      • Is 10 inches too small?

        I find that a 10 inch tablet is pretty reasonable for sharing pictures. Seems like a 20 inch tablet, while fun, may be a bit unwieldy. What you don't want to be is that guy trying to share photos on a tiny iPhone 3 or 4 screen.
        gomigomijunk
      • If it's anything like my Samsung Galaxy Player 5....

        ...then it's an awesome size and device (and almost certainly thinner and lighter than my player).

        Size of Lumia 920:
        5.13 x 2.79 x 0.42 inches

        Size of Note 2:
        5.94 x 3.17 x 0.37 inches

        It's less than an inch taller, .4" wider and slightly thinner than the 920. It also weighs less than the 920 by .11 ounces. Hardly a night and day difference in devices.

        Two other points: most people use a bluetooth earpiece with phones nowadays and honestly most people also use them far more for work/apps then they do for talking (heck, I have a Samsung Galaxy Player 5 with no phone at all!). This makes the criticism moot without getting into the amazing organizational features the Note II brings to the table for which its size is amply suited. People aren't buying this device for use cases that resemble a Simbian prepaid flip-phone's.
        jgm@...
    • fixed

      "Performance or beauty, WP8 is miles behind of Android."

      "Performance" and "Microsoft" is an antonymous pair. WinRT8 uses more than 12gb of disk out of the box (with Office).
      eulampius
      • Comprehension?

        I'm sure OSX uses many GB of space with Office, but what does that have to do with Windows Phone 8?

        There is a growing group of people ditching their pre-iPhone 5 for the Lumina 920. Thousands, but not tens of thousands. Some people have open minds and pick what is right for their specific needs.

        My phone runs Android. When my contract is up next Spring, I'll pick something that meets my exact needs - couldn't care less which OS.
        Regulator1956
        • While we're at it...

          ...Linux uses about 3.5GB of space for OS, desktop, full office suite, PIM client, drivers, image editing program, music management program, instant messaging, VoIP, IRC client, bittorrent client, raw image editor, Google Earth-like map program using Open Street Map data, CD burner, media player, PDF viewer, archiver, microblogging client, browser, etc.

          What does it win? :-)

          The poster is suggesting that WP8 is bloated. Given Win8, WP8 and WinRT are converging to one OS most likely with the next refresh, it's a point worth considering.

          > couldn't care less which OS.

          You should, just as you should care who makes the phone. If your company was shipping goods, would you not care which carrier? I've seen that happen, and customers snap at a nice price only to not investigate the company's financials and have it go bankrupt a few months later and their freight in transit disappear. OSes are different and are based on different principles, such as open vs. closed source. Some are locked down, some are ridiculously locked down, and some are more open. They all try to get you, from nudging with some to shoving with others, to use their related services, products, or purchase content from them. These are things you need to look at beyond specs and your "exact needs". Would you purchase something that meets your exact needs from a company you don't trust or wouldn't want to deal with, has a bad support history, etc?
          jgm@...
    • The Microsoft Rationalizations Flow Thick And Fast

      "higher resolution is not always better" -- at least Android gives you the choice.

      "Windows 8 supports tablet resolution of up to 2560 * 1440" -- but Windows Phone 8 doesn't. If only there were a platform that didn't introduce artificial distinctions between "phone" and "tablet", where you could build one app to one common set of APIs with one common build system, and deploy it seamlessly across a whole range of devices with a whole range of form factors and a whole range of different capabilities, that would leave the fragmented and floundering Microsoft camp for dead, wouldn't it? Oh wait, it's already happening.

      "Android sellers are fooling consumers with silly specs like 1080p and 8 core things..." -- sometimes you don't have to do a thing, your opponents just parody themselves...
      ldo17
      • What is the point?

        "at least Android gives you the choice." - What's the point of giving choice which is not needed?

        "fragmented and floundering Microsoft camp" - Android is the most fragmented OS

        However, I agree that having a quad core or 8 core will be nice and it is the one thing I like about Android. However, the more the processor power, the faster the battery drain right? Lets see whether there are any improvements on the battery in the future.
        spicycheeks
    • You remind me...

      .... of another company that died while its products stagnated: 3dfx. When NVidia first produced a card with 32bit color 3D while 3dfx was still limited to 16bit, one of the top execs at 3dfx snapped to a magazine interviewer, "I don't know how YOU play YOUR games, but when *I* play I don't have time to look around and notice all the colors!" 3dfx, of course, had the speed advantage at the time.

      Needless to say the market didn't feel the same way and NVidia's practice of having one card in development and a team aiming to improve that card working at the same time led to product release cycles twice what 3dfx was working with and NVidia rapidly buried 3dfx.

      Since your product of choice lacks the features of the competition, you're downplaying the features (unless and until you get them - just as 3dfx was working on the "unimportant" 32bit color for their next graphics card before going out of business). "Good enough" won't impress consumers. Android is the dominant platform right now and saying "We're lower specced but good enough" isn't going to sway them to favor WP8 especially given that subsidizing makes many phones the same price.

      720p might be good, but 1080p is better (especially if users have 1080p video content).

      Windows 8 isn't running on phones, Windows 8 phone is, and what it can do on the tablet has no relevance to the fact it can't go beyond 720p on the phone. What is relevant is that Android is ahead and moving at a faster pace than Windows Phone and the open source nature and plethora of companies using it in their products provides a wealth of rapidly evolving new features that big, slow Microsoft can't catch up to. Because of the closed, controlled nature of WinPhone 8 handset developers (with the exception of Nokia) aren't allowed to add their own improvements or UI changes. Look at all of the additions, especially stylus-related, that Samsung added to Android for the Note II. Nothing like that would be allowed to happen with WP8.

      >Android sellers are fooling consumers with silly specs like 1080p and 8 core things...

      I almost wish you were trolling instead of serious. Those foolish users, falling for things like higher resolution and more cores for greater processing power! Next they'll be bragging about completely pointless 32bit color when the only important factor is raw framerate!

      >Performance or beauty, WP8 is miles ahead of Android.

      Thanks to Win8 desktop, Metro is going to gain the same infamous reputation "Bob" has and instead of helping the desktop it'll end up hurting the phone. WP8 is lower-speced with limited hardware, high licensing cost and too much control in the hands of the OS vendor and not the handset developer. It's locked down and has a pittance of applications available compared to its competitors. On top of that, Windows 8 and especially the forthcoming Windows Blue are a bald-faced (Ballmer-faced?) attempt to force developers to write apps for WP. In other words, it's MS' final, last gasp at leveraging one monopoly to create another, the only trick Ballmer learned from Gates. This time, though, there's going to be a backlash. The monopoly is crumbling and Windows developers have started to really have enough (ask anyone who bet the farm on Silverlight) and now they have alternatives to go to. Microsoft is no longer the only game in town and developers don't need them anymore. I expect when they try to push developers with Windows Blue, developers are going to start pushing back. Heck, Valve already has and work proceeds on the SteamBox, which won't be an over-regulated, locked down DRM-laden device controlled by Valve.
      jgm@...
      • Sure, having more pixels is better

        for how great the screen looks, but battery life is reduced by more pixels. So there are compromises everywhere in mobile. I'm sure that in the next year, Microsoft will allow an increase in resolution. Microsoft is walking the path between being Apple closed and Android open. An interesting pathway with its own compromises, but at least consumers get more choices out of this competition.
        grayknight
        • Re: Microsoft is walking the path between being Apple closed and Android op

          So far they've been a lot more "Apple closed" than "Android open".
          ldo17
    • Not according to its sales figures

      I think the buying public may disagree with you.

      MS has a nice phone but with its lack of apps, support and issues there is no really business case that makes this a better buy then either an Android or iPhone. Unless you enjoy paying the same price for less product.
      KBabcock75
    • WP8 is miles ahead???

      That must be why I have never seen one. It's because it is miles ahead, and I cannot see that far. Yeah, right....

      All sarcasm aside, it may be great, but it looks like it is still too little, too late. I am not wishing bad luck on M$, but they have been making half-a$$ attempts to break into this market for a decade, and I don't think they are that much closer now. What good is being miles ahead if they can't get a foot in the door?
      mlashinsky@...
  • 4.3" is enough

    The HTC 8X with its 4.3" screen is enough, if I want a bigger screen I have that on my tablet, I want a phone I can still put on my belt and bigger than 4.3" becomes uncomfortable carrying around on the belt.
    lepoete73
  • Other reason I think

    In my opinion I believe HTC probably said that with the dismal sales of Windows phones. Why waste more R&D and production on yet another model that will be no doubt discounted. At the single digit market share Windows phones has. It does not need a lot of models out there.
    jscott418-22447200638980614791982928182376
  • Windows Phone - the "Linux Desktop" meme of this decade

    It's so funny to see Windows fanboys adopting the same language and perspectives as the "year of the Linux desktop" fanboys did for the last 10+ years, in order to explain why public adoption of their clearly so superior product lags.

    It would less funny if those same Windows fanboys weren't so derisive of Linux for all those years.
    daboochmeister
    • It's even funnier

      watching the anti-MS fanboys franticlly jumping from blog to blog making the same trolls.

      I guess everyone is having some fun.
      William Farrel
    • The difference being

      people that pick up a Windows Phone love it. Consumers that were conned into a Linux desktop hated it.
      Rob.sharp
    • daboochmeister

      I now know where all the sewer "crap" ends up. It goes directly to the mouths of you and your kind. Dine well!
      TACWALKER