IWF chief: Why Wikipedia block went wrong

Summary: Internet Watch Foundation chief Peter Robbins talks about internet self-regulation and the 'Scorpions' blocking incident that disrupted Wikipedia

The Internet Watch Foundation (IWF), an organisation set up by internet service providers to monitor child sexual abuse websites, caused a furore in December when it attempted to block a page on online collaborative encyclopaedia Wikipedia. Through a combination of technical factors, people wishing to edit Wikipedia were blocked from doing so, causing an outcry. The image the IWF tried to block was the LP cover for Virgin Killer, a 1976 album by German rock band Scorpions.

Peter Robbins, chief executive of the IWF, talked to ZDNet UK about the fallout from the decision to block the page, and whether self-regulation of internet content is effective.

Q: An IWF action over a Scorpions album cover had an adverse effect on Wikipedia, effectively censoring it for some users. Does internet self-regulation work?
A: Because of that particular incident, [which had an effect on] IWF's reputation across the world, we have been accused of being a self-elected set of individuals set on a particular cause.

We have lots of credible people on our board, to give reassurance of independent oversight of what we do. In relation to the Wikipedia incident, that particular matter came about after a judgement about an image of a prepubescent girl on the website, which we considered to be indecent. A combination of factors led to an unfair level of criticism. We accept there were a number of issues about the technology that didn't work, and those lessons will be taken forward.

What were the issues about the technology?
Issues included the way that Wikipedia was set up so that the edit facility was frozen, and the way filtering systems were set up at ISPs. Yet all the pressure came to us. Unfortunately the debate was touched off around censorship, but that's not our function. We publish a list [of content] that organisations block on a voluntary basis. But that is secondary to our main [activities], which have always been our hotline, and notice and takedown. That's what self-regulation brought about.

Is the IWF blocking effective?
We heard later on that people could get around the [Wikipedia] blocking. Other attempts to evade blocking will be dealt with by the police. Our core business is notice and takedown, but in the UK there are very few occasions now where we have to issue notices. It's rare for people in the UK to host that content. There are 33 other hotlines around the world that we work with, all doing much the same, trying to deal with child sexual abuse.

What issues are there with people's perceptions of what the IWF does? Surely it's generally agreed that blocking child sexual abuse images is a good thing?
Yes, but the suspicion is about what else is on the [block] list. In the light of the Wikipedia incident, there is a deep suspicion of what's on the list. How do people know it's indecent images of children being blocked and not, say, politically sensitive information? The last thing we want is to have our list compromised by having sites on the list outside of our remit. We don't have a problem with anyone who is legally authorised seeing the content of the list. The list is seen by independent auditors every three years.

Who performs the audit?
The last audit was performed by [LSE forensics expert] Peter Sommer, assistant chief constable Stuart Hyde of the West Midlands police, June Thorburn, professor of social work at the University of East Anglia, and Jim Warnock, head of operations at CEOP [Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre]. They came in April or May last year and gave us a clean bill of health. The point is, they came in to oversee our systems and processes. Apart from having an independent board of governors, we periodically bring in a group to audit our processes, every three years.

Who sees the list?
The auditors see the list, the 33 hotlines around the world, plus police and law enforcement agencies can have access. The list is also available to over 70 accredited, licensed organisations. We don't give the list to people who we think couldn't properly handle the content, because it is highly sensitive.

How do you decide on the list content?
The block list is dynamic, as sites go up and down all of the time. We don't automate the list. Every site on the list has an assessed image. But we block differently — www.childporn.com as a site would get blocked, but a single image can be blocked. We don't want to overblock.

Why did you decide to block the Wikipedia image of the Scorpions album cover?
It's about judgements you make about images. On Wikipedia there was an image of a prepubescent girl with no clothes on posing provocatively, and that fails UK guidelines. However, the image has been around for a long time.

If the image was provocative, why did you unblock it?
We didn't want to be arguing about the legality of blocking it if people were proliferating the image, copy and pasting it. We wanted to get back to our core business of notice and takedown, to get to websites around the world. Then there were problems with the tech blocking the content of an internet archive, which is also what happened with the Wayback Machine.

Yes, that block happened about a month after Wikipedia. How did that happen?
Some of the content on the Wayback Machine internet archive went onto our list, and because of a technical hitch users were denied access to it. We provided the list, but it was the interaction of technologies that broke it. We are not a technological organisation. Wikipedia was similar — they were reading traffic coming to the site, which we would not have known when we put them on our list.

Will you change how you assess images in the light of the Wikipedia incident?
We are going to change our systems to deal with the context and the history of the image, and whether the content is available on an innocent site. We learnt lessons from this.

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  • Comment deletion now being discussed

    The deletion of my previous comment (for what reason? do you need to phone me to verify it?) is now being discussed on wikimediauk-l.
    David Gerard
  • Edited comment

    [Thanks for the email about the comment problem. Edited version below.]

    I'm David Gerard, the volunteer press person for Wikipedia who spoke to the press during the incident.

    One thing I didn't find out until Monday night (by which time the news cycle had ended): they blocked the page about the album, on en.wikipedia.org, and they blocked the page describing the image, on en.wikipedia.org ... but they didn't actually block the image itself, on upload.wikimedia.org.

    But then, large websites have only been using separate image and text servers since 1995, so we could hardly expect the IWF to be up with such developments.

    As well as blocking people from reading *encyclopedia text*, they *failed* to actually do the thing they were claiming to do: blocking the image.

    This brings up one point: there is no evidence whatsoever that they actually do the job they claim to. And there is this piece of evidence that they don't actually know how to. Hamfisted *and* incompetent.

    Could you follow up with a question as to how they managed to block text and not the actual image? I'd be fascinated to hear their explanation.
    David Gerard
  • The IWF an unlected censorship organisation

    Regarding the Wikipedia censorship, the IWF textually says "the image has been around for a long time", so it is OK to unblock it.

    Either it is child porn or it is not, the fact that it has been around for a long time means nothing, there are lots of child porn out there that has been around for years and it still remains illegal.

    The IWF has their knickers in a twist, they cant even admit they are classifying works of art as child porn.

    I wouldnt trust these people to classify my book collection,lets alone the internet sites I visit.
    malcarada
  • The IWF's purpose in life

    The IWF has a single purpose: to keep the Government off the ISPs' backs.

    It's unfortunate that the people involved in it have lost sight of this and now think they have to actually do stuff to justify their existence.
    David Gerard
  • Explain this

    I would like to know why, when the IFW filter kicks in, the ENTIRE rapidshare domain is blocked by my ISP. I and 1000s of others who actually pay for the legitimate and legal use of this service find that rapidshare.com is unavailab'le for no good reason. This is not a site hosting dodgy images. I dare say there are sites hosting linking content stored on Rapidshare but this content is removed by Rapidshare as soon as it is reported. The way this filter works, rapidshare.com home page is blocked, the rapidshare news page is blocked, rapidshare tools are blocked, and so on.

    The same applies to Imageshack. Now I have never seen any dodgy images on imageshack, which is a legitimate image hosting site. I'm willing to concede that from time to time, some pervert somewhere will post a dodgy image. And yet it's not that site that displays this image that's blocked, it's an entire imageshack server. I suspect the same thing happens with Rapidshare. A dodgy image or file is spotted, reported and rather than the image or file being blocked, entire servers, entire domains are blocked. There are other examples, but these two are among the most well known and the most irritating.

    Not only is this filter inefficient and irritating, it is also actually very easily circumvented.

    So what is the point?
    1000030281
  • Evil

    From what I've read, and from the evasions given here, this organisation looks like the direct descendant of the Moral Welfare Society of the 1940s.

    That was the organisation that ended up getting teenage mothers locked away in mental institutions for decades for being 'wayward'. They also started out having an 'advisory' role, and ended up as shadowy authority who's decisions were impossible to challenge.

    My mother narrowly escaped being one of their victims (I still have the paperwork to prove it), and she was in her 20s! Her behavior didn't fit their definition of what a young woman should be doing with her life, so she was sent what can only be described as threatening letters, and (at her own expense) had to attend interviews to demonstrate she had recognised the error of her ways.

    I have nothing but total contempt for such leeches.
    Tezzer-5cae2