Japanese bank beats XP deadline, moves 30,000 terminals to Windows 8

Japanese bank beats XP deadline, moves 30,000 terminals to Windows 8

Summary: One Japanese banking group has beat Microsoft's April 8 support deadline for Windows XP but millions — potentially hundreds of millions — remain on the ageing OS.


As the April 8 cutoff for Windows XP support looms, millions of PCs still remain on the OS. However, one Japanese banking group has just left that club after completing a massive migration to Windows 8.

According to Microsoft Japan, Resona Holdings, an operator of several banks and other subsidiaries in the country, completed "one of the largest" Windows 8 deployments ever made in Japan, and in doing so beat Microsoft's much talked-of April 8 support deadline for both Windows XP and Office 2003.

The group, which is behind the Saitama Resona Bank, Kinki Osaka Bank and other group companies, completed its two-year migration of some 30,000 Windows XP client terminals this February.

"We decided to migrate straight to Windows 8, and there was no opposition to the approach of leveraging the latest products to boost efficiency," said Tetsuya Shiratori, executive officer and general manager of Resona Holdings' information technology planning division.

As Microsoft has tried to remind companies when urging them to move off XP, there are cost savings to be had by migrating to newer systems. The catch is that achieving them may also bring with it big, expensive hardware upgrades — in Resona's case, it meant refreshing half of the clients in use. The other half, which had only been in use for two years, will remain in use.

According to Microsoft, the group used desktop virtualisation technology to migrate business applications, and Microsoft System Center 2012 Configuration Manager to handle policy design, system configuration and remote automated software installation.

The group now uses the configuration manager and its security suite for PC monitoring, software and patch distribution and security.

Despite Microsoft's several-year campaign to get consumers and business off the popular operating system, hundreds of millions of PCs still run on it.

According to Net Applications, 27 percent of the world’s PCs are still powered by XP. Given Gartner's estimate in 2008 that there were more than one billion PCs in use in worldwide back then, that means there are at least 270 million XP machines still out there. If Gartner's prediction at the time that there would be two billion PCs in use by 2014 came true, that could mean tens or hundreds of millions more XP machines still in the wild.

New research released this week by UK software company AppSense estimated that 77 percent of UK organisations will still be running XP after April 8. Of the companies that still had XP devices on their networks, the old operating system was running on 25 percent of their PC fleets.

Of course, those companies can pay to get extended support for the OS, but the research showed that 68 percent had no such plans.

Besides no more regular monthly Tuesday patches, an additional risk that businesses with XP may face, is a new onslaught of exploits for vulnerabilities that attackers have been sitting on in preparation for Microsoft's support cutoff date — a risk Microsoft acknowledged last year.

Also, hackers will likely look at patched flaws in Vista and later versions of Windows and use them to reverse-engineer the updates in order to see if they also affect XP.

While there has been some concern about the April deadline for ATMs that run Windows, Microsoft's support for the version of XP that runs these machines won't end until January 2016.

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Topics: Enterprise Software, Microsoft, Operating Systems, Security, Windows

Liam Tung

About Liam Tung

Liam Tung is an Australian business technology journalist living a few too many Swedish miles north of Stockholm for his liking. He gained a bachelors degree in economics and arts (cultural studies) at Sydney's Macquarie University, but hacked (without Norse or malicious code for that matter) his way into a career as an enterprise tech, security and telecommunications journalist with ZDNet Australia. These days Liam is a full time freelance technology journalist who writes for several publications.

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  • XP articles

    How many more articles on cnet mentioning XP in the headline before April 8? My guess is 15. What's your guess?
    • I bet on 16

      XP users should start to think about updating, but nothing terrible is going to happening after April 8. Maybe rushing an update is more risky than to extend XP life.

      Windows 8 future is almost as uncertain as XP future :D (read with irony - but not too much).
      • What's so uncertain?

        Windows 9 will be here by the end of 2015.
        • True, but don't expect Windows 9 to look more like Windows 7 than 8.

          IT WON'T!
          M Wagner
          • Windows 9

            will separate the desktop users from the Metro users in a way that if you don't want to see or use Metro you won't have to even know it's there. If you want to use Metro exclusively you will be able to also and then if you want to be able to use both at the same time you will be able to. My window 8 is more like windows 7 then like XP.
          • Why not having 2 different OSes then?!

            Why having an entire OS that I never use? So I need to buy a bigger flash card?!
          • Liam: I have a question for you.....

            "Given Gartner's estimate in 2008 that there were more than one billion PCs in use in worldwide back then, that means there are at least 270 million XP machines still out there. If Gartner's prediction at the time that there would be two billion PCs in use by 2014 came true, that could mean tens or hundreds of millions more XP machines still in the wild."

            Why would XP's usage have grown from 2008 to Now? That doesn't make sense, since Vista was out and Win7 was coming out....

          • Windows 9? Im using Windows 95

            I do have a Windows XP but wont need to upgrade to Windows 7 as I already have a Windows version 7 and a Windows version 95. Had it for years.
            Mark A.
      • windows 7

        all this talk of windows 8 is just Microsoft trying to push a bad product over a good one just go to windows 7 IT WILL DO THE JOB
  • Japanese bank beats XP deadline, moves 30,000 terminals to Windows 8

    Now that was easy to do and these banks proved it. A lot of fear about doing such an upgrade but for these 30,000 terminals there was no problem. Best part is they went to Microsoft Windows 8 so we can safely say its not hated like ZDNet wants us to believe. We are going to read more stories just like this one.
    • It's not about whether you like it or not

      When a business decides to take-on a project of this magnitude they have to think long and hard about the costs and risk to reward ratio. I have worked for many banks and they are always happier with the devil they know.. I did a project once where the bank were still using Tandem machines for their payment system and employed a team to scour eBay etc. for spares long after the machines were out of support.
    • We don't know when they started the transition though. They might have ...

      ... started planning in 2009, when the end-of-life was announced.
      M Wagner
      • Planning

        If they started planning in 2009 that's very late planning. They migrated to Windows 8 now, so they should already have a draft plan for the migration from Windows 8. The end date is known, as are the alternative approaches (rolling migration, all-at-once migration, migration to Linux, migrate to Windows 11/12, migrate to some other OS, close business and sell terminals for scraps, etc)
    • Going headfirst into W8 from XP just isn't smart!

      This bank must have not have read all the problems with W8x and are walking into MS's trap. Linux would have been the better route because then they could upgrade the OS without dealing with the expenditures. This was clearly out of desperation that they needed a secure system and not thinking of the consequences. There is no consequences by trying Linux out.

      And W8 is hated, if you haven't been keeping up with the news.. this article is a joke and possibly a MS funded op. This bank has probably been toying with W8 and the techs there probably don't really care that most people hate W8 already. And yes, W8 deserves every bit of hate it gets, it's a shame it's not more universal. This is why i am switching to Linux (and possibly sacrificing some software to do it). MS did it to themselves and they need to learn the hard way that the OS UI is nothing to toy with. All this sudden promotion for W8 makes me sick.
  • It occurs to me that Americans are particularly vulnerable because of ...

    ... cultural biases: "Oh, we are invincible! My systems will never be compromised - no matter what they say!"

    You should trade cars BEFORE it starts costing you more than it is worth. It's the same way with computers and computer software. There comes a point that the hardware is too lame to run the latest software and the software is too old to be secure from the newest exploits. Regular security patches are not enough. Like the car, when the hardware and software is too old and inefficient, it needs to be replaced before it becomes too expensive to maintain.

    For awhile, there will be vendors offering solutions so you can keep your XP systems running but shortly, these vendors will find it costs too much to keep providing solutions for adding hardware and software.

    It really is "pay me now, or pay me later". Past a certain point, hanging on will cost you more than upgrading. That point was passed in 2012, when Windows 8 was released.
    M Wagner
    • I read all kinds of comments

      where small businesses say they can't upgrade from XP because they have mission critical software that won't in a new OS. That tells be either the software they use to keep there business afloat no longer exists. If they did exist in order to grow they have to upgrade products meet current technology. Companies make money on customers buying new products not supporting old products. Sometimes it's cost more not to upgrade now andfput if off to later.
  • eight is not the the way to go

    I read all this about the end of XP and you need to jump head first into 8 of if you are nuts go linux neither are the way to go both in hardware and training down time got to windows 7 this is a short hop in training and down time most of the XP machines I have tested and I have done old dells and HP all had XP and installed win 7 with little or no problem and they were old systems that I got in thrift stores for 5 to 15 bucks each and gave them new life you can save a ton of money on hardware and training just move to windows 7 and sit and wait to see if windows 9 is any good
    • new life from 7?

      Most of those thrift store systems are using quite old hardware. That means there's more of a possibility of too old for manufacturor video cards, too slow processors, too slow RAM for anything newer than XP. Of course, you could do what I'm suspecting you did and upgrade the RAM, add a beefier hard drive, newer video card. That'd do the trick. It would also end up costing a lot more money.
      I went into a local Goodwill, bought 3 machines. All were running XP. I replaced the OS on each one with Linux (took much less effort, I watched a little TV through most of the install), and rebooted. New life, easier updating and no worries about fortifying the system (you still need to do that with Windows 7).
  • Another loss for Linux

    As usual, lol!
    • It's peanuts

      When you look at the big picture of things.
      Even for Microsoft alone this is just a drop of water in the ocean.