AT&T, Comcast expected to help RIAA fight piracy
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The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), the lobbying group representing the four largest recording companies, said last month that it had enlisted the help of ISPs as part of a new antipiracy campaign. The RIAA has declined to identify which ISPs or how many.
It's important to note that none of the half dozen or so ISPs involved has signed agreements. The companies are "skittish" about negative press and could still back out, said the sources. But as it stands, AT&T and Comcast are among the companies that have indicated they wish to participate in what the RIAA calls a "graduated response program."
Typically, ISPs have stayed away from getting involved in copyright enforcement. The ISPs working with the RIAA will forward take-down notices to network users accused of illegal file sharing and in an unprecedented move, will establish a series of responses for chronic copyright violators.These responses will gradually grow in severity as the number of violations go up and may include suspension of service or even service termination. Each ISP will decide its own response.
An RIAA spokesman declined to comment, and a Comcast representative said he wouldn't confirm the company's participation. An AT&T spokesman said this: "While I'm not in a position to comment on the RIAA announcement, we believe that consumer education is a key component to enabling customers to find and use legal methods to access the content they want...we have also consistently said that automatic cutoff of our customers is not something we would do."
There are still plenty of details left to work out, the sources said. The RIAA has yet to address how it would help ISPs make up for the revenue they would lose by kicking people off their networks or who would pay the costs of sending take-down notices. The RIAA may disclose participating ISPs as soon as next month, according to a music industry source, adding that AT&T and Comcast are expected to be part of the group.
If AT&T and Comcast do join, the RIAA will have plenty of muscle to wage a new assault on piracy. The music industry said last month that it would no longer battle piracy by filing lawsuits against individuals. Instead, the big recording companies seek to create a new line of defense at the network level. And at least on paper, the plan is a potent one.
Broadband providers are the gatekeepers of Internet access and have their hands on all the controls.
News that Comcast and AT&T would likely join the fight against illegal file sharing was greeted warmly by Rick Carnes, president of the Songwriters Guild of America.
"Perhaps we have a chance to rebuild the music business after a period of tremendous looting," Carnes said. "You can't have a marketplace without property rights. Certainly (the ISPs) rolled out broadband based on movie and music downloads, legal and illegal and claimed (exemption from any legal responsibility), but at this point I think they realize being good partners with the content industry is a better idea. I really want to salute them for doing that."
The move is part of the music industry's global campaign to sway broadband providers to join in protecting copyright material.
The entertainment industry has been trying to get laws passed throughout the world that would force ISPs to implement a "three strikes" policy. Under such a policy, repeat offenders would be given three notices to stop infringing on copyright before a service provider cuts off Internet access.
Such a "three strikes" policy was implemented in France in 2007. The way it works is that ISPs issue warning messages to customers downloading files illegally. And if users ignore those messages, their accounts could be suspended or closed altogether.
Italy is considering a similar policy, according to the blog TorrentFreak. But in the U.K. a "three strikes" law appears to be losing support. The The Times of London reported Monday that passage of such a law is unlikely given that ISPs there don't want the added regulation.
The newspaper reported that David Lammy, the intellectual property minister, said a law that requires ISPs to disconnect users had too many legal issues surrounding it. That said, ISPs in the U.K. have agreed to work with the movie and music industries to help stop piracy. In July last year, ISPs agreed to a memorandum of understanding with the music and film industries in which ISPs agreed to send 1,000 letters a week for three months to combat users caught sharing files illegally, The Times reported.
Here in the U.S. ISPs have been reluctant to send letters or cut off service. And so far only in a couple of isolated agreements has an ISP agreed to help content owners police and enforce copyright infringement. In 2005, Verizon struck the stealth deal to win favor with Disney management. Verizon is building out a TV network and is striking content deals with movie studios and TV networks. In exchange for forwarding notices to suspected illegal file sharers, Disney gave Verizon the rights to transmit 12 of Disney's TV channels over its broadband network.
The problem with these agreements is how to enforce them. If notices are sent automatically, there's no way to tell if a user has received it. Representative of the Electronic Frontier Foundation have reserved judgment until they hear the RIAA's plan detailed. They want to know how ISPs will protect users from being wrongly accused and whether ISPs will blackball users who have been kicked off other networks.
Another big question that EFF asks is how far will the policing efforts eventually go? Will network operators be responsible for identifying illegal content on their networks and then be asked to stop it from traversing its broadband pipes?
AT&T has previously stated that it's been testing technology that does just that. The company hasn't announced plans to use the filter technology. But the company has been working with members of the Motion Picture Association of America and the RIAA over the past year to figure out ways in which it can curb the flow of illegal content on its network.
Sources told CNET News that the RIAA hasn't asked any ISP to peer into packets or be responsible for monitoring their networks for piracy. The RIAA will continue to identify alleged copyright violators and report them to their ISPs.
Credit: Sources: AT&T, Comcast likely to help RIAA foil piracy originally published on CNET News.com.
Talkback Most Recent of 19 Talkback(s)
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Thus the great firewall...
enters America. Way to go ISP's. Its not a matter of consumer education for people "illegally" downloading...its the fact that the content providers are forcing people do - DRM doesnt work, it hurts the consumer so kill it.
Yes more and more music is being able to be downloaded DRM-free, that said however a number of songs that I want are not able to be either a)downloaded individually, b) downloaded at all, or C) laced with DRM so I cant use it on my devices. So when content providers truely get on the ball - maybe this will fly.
JT8228th Jan 2009 -
RE: AT
Does AT&T and Comcast realize the amount of money they ar going to have to spend to support this action legally? There will be a hundred lawsuits the minute they put this into action. Who's going to pay to monitor and enforce this? Who's going to pay to cleanup all the falsely accused users?Guilty before being proven innocent? How typical of the RIAA.
lawryll@...28th Jan 2009 -
Don't worry the customer has plenty of money
Plus all those Apple nuts with their iPhones are tied to AT&T service rates. So there's plenty of money to fund these RIAA initiatives.
As for Comcast, they have a monopoly so they always raise rates to adjust for RIAA expenses.
T1Oracle28th Jan 2009 -
We are going to pay
Well, the U.S. Tax payers could foot the bill, that's why Biden was such a great choice for Veep, he has thought this for years. Way to go everybody, your savior brought the Devil's good friend with him on his road to the White House
nucrash28th Jan 2009 -
Next headline reads ....
AT&T and Comcast "tricked" into blocking Google and YouTube via RIAA enforcement escalation!
kd5auq28th Jan 2009 -
Correction
AT&T and Comcast "sued" into blocking Google and YouTube via RIAA enforcement escalation!
MGP228th Jan 2009 -
Haven't you heard? RIAA is playing "nice" now!
Since RIAA's budget is getting squeezed they are trying to play nice for a change and elicite cooperations instead of confrontation.
I'm talking about the script kiddies that would do this "just to prove it can be done" using RIAA as a patsy.
kd5auq28th Jan 2009 -
RIAA plays Nice????????
Really? Oh yeah, I forgot, they have a track record of trying to sue dead people, as well as others without even computers or internet.
How long until the RIAA deem ALL streaming video and audio is verboten?
cpt_slog@...29th Jan 2009 -
I feel a bad bout of DIA-RIAA coming on
Now who can come up with malware retaliation (IMMODIUM) to the RIAA whan they try to scan shared files on your computer?
NotMSUser28th Jan 2009 -
ANYTHING shared can be scanned!
That is why rule #1 is to TURN OFF sharing if you are "on-line" and #2 don't accept any downloads from someone you don't trust (including your ISP).
kd5auq28th Jan 2009 -
Lol, this will fail.
Bit torrent will go encrypted. passworded sites with encrypted content, thus preventing isps from looking at packets or reading information.
On top of that, if someone accused me, i would just tell my isp that i would cancel all my office contracts with them. Which would amount to a million or so a year.
Been_Done_Before28th Jan 2009 -
Bye Bye U-Verse!
The day this gets announced, I will cancel my U-Verse service. Their customer retention department has already had to credit me with two months service ($300) for failing to provide reliable service, and this is just the nail in the coffin for me. And I'm supporting the EFF in their intent to file regulatory complaints against the ISPs for discrimination and abuse of their monopoly positions in most communities.
Right now, the RIAA is selling the ISPs a seductive message: "We'll pay you to get rid of your biggest bandwidth hogs." But the kickbacks won't last, and the number of "abusers" that the RIAA wants to target will quickly begin to hit the broadband companies right at the bottom line. Would you keep your expensive TV package once ATT canceled your UVerse data service? Not me.
Hopefully the ISPs will wise up to the BS that RIAA is selling them, but then again, maybe it's time for the consumer to flex their muscles a little bit and kick them where it hurts: the pocketbook.
terry flores28th Jan 2009 -
Corporates are historically untrustworthy
Although piracy should NOT be condoned, we do NOT need an industrial or services supplier to play the role of yet another commercial police state.
Corporates that are placed in such a position or given such powers invariably and historically abuse it, and the multitude of the users and abiding citizens are made to pay the penalty for the piracy of the few.
josephrot@...30th Jan 2009 -
VoiceOfLogic29th Jan 2009 -
RE: AT
Stupid nazis, RIAA needs to be outlawed. They only have themselves to blame for lagging music sales and the proliferation of downloading music free of the internet. Keep it up and I'll download even more
RIAAsucks29th Jan 2009
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