End of tax-free Internet shopping may be near
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A bill expected to be introduced in the U.S. Congress as early as Monday would rewrite the ground rules for mail order and Internet sales by eliminating what its supporters view as a "loophole" that, in many cases, allows Americans to shop over the Internet without paying sales taxes.
Currently, Americans who shop over the Internet from out-of-state vendors aren't always required to pay sales taxes at the time of purchase. Californians buying books from Amazon.com or cameras from Manhattan's B&H Photo, for example, won't pay sales taxes at checkout time that they would if shopping at a local mall.
"We will have the bill ready for introduction by next Monday," said Neal Osten of the National Conference of State Legislatures. "We finalized the language and now we're working out the remaining issues and adding some new provisions at the request of various stakeholders."
This is hardly a new debate: pro-tax officials and state governments have been pressing Congress to enact such a law for at least seven years. They argue that reduced sales tax revenue threatens budgets for schools and police, and say that, as a matter of fairness, online retailers should be forced to collect the same taxes that brick-and-mortar retailers do.
Even though those arguments have been unsuccessful so far, the National Conference of State Legislatures and its allies believe the recession has sliced into sales tax revenue so much that Congress will have to act. A report this week from the Rockefeller Institute says that sales taxes have declined by 6.1 percent, the largest decline in half a century.
"One of the big things the states have learned in the recession is they have declining revenues," said Scott Peterson, executive director of the Streamlined Sales Tax Project, which counts state politicians and tax collectors on its governing board. "We're very optimistic about Congress this year. We think we are within a day or two of finalizing the legislation."
The final legislation is expected to be introduced by Sen. Mike Enzi, a Wyoming Republican, and Rep. Bill Delahunt, a Massachusetts Democrat, who have championed similar proposals in the past. Delahunt's office on Wednesday confirmed he was interested; Enzi's did not respond.
On the other side are the Direct Marketing Association, the Electronic Retailing Association, and companies including eBay, L.L. Bean, and Overstock.com. One of their biggest objections to the idea of collecting sales taxes on out-of-state shipments is the dizzying complexity of state laws.
Take candy, which would seem to be a straightforward item to tax. It isn't. During a 2003 discussion of tax policy, a representative of Indiana, James Turner, noted that a proposed definition of candy would have taxed the Milky Way Midnight candy bar but not the original Milky Way bar.
But further investigation showed that Turner's counter-proposal would have treated "certain flavors of Pop Tarts" and Cookies and Twix Crunchy Cookie Bars as candy--but not Cookies and Snickers Crunchy Cookie Bars. Peanut butter Girl Scout cookies would be candy, but Thin Mints or Caramel deLites would be classified as food.
Bizarre distinctions like this, coupled with the existence of more than 7,000 different tax agencies, are why the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that out-of-state retailers generally couldn't be obligated to collect sales taxes unless Congress changes the law. The justices noted in a 1992 case called Quill v. North Dakota: "Congress is now free to decide whether, when, and to what extent the States may burden interstate mail order concerns with a duty to collect use taxes."
One exception to that rule is a legal concept called "nexus," which means a company can be forced to collect sales taxes if it has a sufficient business presence. If Amazon had an office in California, it already would be collecting sales tax for Golden State residents. (Another exception is the sale of cigarettes, which is covered by the Jenkins Act.)
In response to complexity concerns, the pro-tax forces have offered a proposal that they hope Congress can be persuaded to adopt. The concept is called the Streamlined Sales Tax Agreement, invented in 2002 by state tax officials hoping to straighten out some of sales tax laws' most notorious convolutions.
Since 2003, more than 20 states have signed on, either wholly or partially, to the agreement, meaning they agree to simplify their tax codes and make them uniform. If enough states participate, proponents believe it will be easier to convince Congress to make sales collection mandatory for out-of-state retailers.
"You'll see governors from states who are active participants pushing the Hill to move the issue forward--Kansas has been a long-standing leader. North Dakota, Iowa, Oklahoma, those are some with members on the governing board," said David Quam, director of the office of federal regulations at the National Governors Association. "The states have done the heavy lifting of coming up with a voluntary system that makes sense. Now it's Congress' turn to grant states the authority to collect this."
Representatives of the Streamlined Sales Tax Project are gathering in Washington, D.C. next month for a three-day governing board meeting, including a "lobbying day" that's scheduled for May 13.
Under existing law, the caveat is that online purchases from sites like Amazon and eBay only seem to arrive tax-free. Legally, however, purchasers are required to pay their own state's sales tax rate--the concept is called a "use tax"--and then voluntarily report the amount owed at tax time.
California residents, for instance, are now burdened with a sales and use tax of at least 8.25 percent. State law is strict: if Californians travel to a state with a 5 percent tax and shop there, the law requires them to cough up the 3.25 percent difference when they return. Online purchases are taxed as well.
But compliance is spotty at best. California's Board of Equalization estimates the state lost $1.34 billion in 2003 because residents aren't paying use taxes--and attributes $208 million of that to online purchases.
"There's no member of NRF that does not support" the forthcoming legislation, said Maureen Riehl, vice president of government relations at the National Retail Federation. "The sooner we can get it done the better, as far as retailers are concerned."
Online retailers tend to disagree. If the Streamlined Sales Tax Project (SSTP) were actually simple and easy for a shipper to work with, they might be more willing to compromise, but that may not be the case.
"The states are desperate for new revenue and I think they realize they're straying far from the simplification they originally promised," said Steve DelBianco, executive director of NetChoice, which counts as members AOL, eBay, NewsCorp, Oracle, Verisign, and Yahoo. "That creates an urgency on their part--to get the federal mandate before it becomes clear they have no intention to simplify."
"They have no real intention of simplifying or compensating sellers for the burdens of collecting," DelBianco said. "It's a shell game."
Among his complaints: That states are unwilling to compensate sellers for the burden of sales tax collection; that small businesses with minimal sales should be exempt; that only one state (as opposed to all states) should be able to audit a business; that participating states are not paying attention to the idea of simplification and are actually making definitions more complex.
"There has to be some oversight," DelBianco said. "These guys have demonstrated--the streamlined states have demonstrated -- an inability to stick to the streamlined promise. Only the U.S. Congress is going to be able to protect sellers from unreasonable burdens."
CNET's Stephanie Condon contributed to this report.
This article was originally posted on CNET News.
Talkback Most Recent of 88 Talkback(s)
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Gotta find new ways to tax
never shrink the government
never be reduce spending
just raise taxes
here in Michigan, is a great model
Granholm wants to raise the gas tax and income tax
that will bring us a lot of new jobs
I've always seen the sales tax break on the internet as necessary to offset the shipping costs.
zmud16th Apr 2009 -
Note to leadership
when you lower taxes on a few and raise taxes on others. That is technically not a tax cut. That is called pandering.
zmud16th Apr 2009 -
Consider the APT Tax
This is a fascinating proposal, at least for federal taxation, from a professor at the University of Wisconsin. (Note: sales and use taxes are state taxes.)
Under the APT Tax:
- all other federal taxation goes away
- the tax is imposed on the movement of money
at the institutional level
- revenue occurs in real time
- privacy remains intact
- criminals and tax cheats have no recourse
except NOT to participate in the economy
- no forms, no exceptions, no exemptions, and
no paperwork
- process is self-auditing; IRS could easily
manage with much fewer people
- entire revenue-side lobbying goes away
- individual and corporate cost of compliance
goes away
- all electronic using existing technology
In short, everything the FairTax proponents want is achieved with but a fraction of the effort and complexity of the idiotic (and hopelessly naive) FairTax.
TaxNerd17th Apr 2009 -
APT TAX - far-reaching
You missed 1 important point: BIG GOVERNMENT. Obama said he'd create more jobs - well, he's doing that alright - he's creating more government jobs - in other words, MORE GOVERNMENT BURACRACY WE HAVE TO WEED THROUGH. Why do you think he wants government to buy everything up (banks, Wall Street, Healthcare)?????? SO HE CAN CONTROL IT ALL, which means YOU WILL NEVER HAVE A SAY IN ANYTHING. You perfect example is Venezuela. The next thing coming is electing Obama for a lifetime. Goodbye Democracy and Liberty, hello SOCIALISM. Goodbye the ability to VOTE. Does anyone see the BIG PICTURE HERE?
SherryCan30th Apr 2009 -
Your wrong
When a single individual or oligarchy (Democrat Party) command the economy, business and social issues it is not socialism it's fascism. Obama is the new Mussolini!
stano36030th Apr 2009 -
there is no "break"
check your MI 1040, line 25 - that's where you're supposed to be reporting the tax due on untaxed purchases. If you've purchased items without paying tax and you have not reported any use tax on your state income tax, you've filed a fraudulent return. attaboy!
david_hobley@...30th Apr 2009 -
RE: End of tax-free Internet shopping may be near
This is why we should have no sales tax, and raise the rate on incomes above $300,000 to 45% and above $1,000,000 to 50% to compensate. Sales taxes overtax us normal people and undertax the rich.
We have to build a bigger middle class in order to get out from under this recession.
notlehs16th Apr 2009 -
You have provided a prime example
of why the so called "Fair Tax" is so grossly unfair and only a "Flat Tax" can be made truly progressive, by placing a large (2 times the annualized minimum wage) personal deduction into the code.
Update victim16th Apr 2009 -
Whoa - this is no place to make sense!
So just stop it, you two.
ejhonda16th Apr 2009 -
Progressive????
Do you actually know what that word PROGRESSIVE means in this country? It's short of Socialism. Geez. Do any of you actually read the news, other than Technology Today? You are killing the middle class - there will be no middle class. There will only be the POOR and the WEALTHY. Does the GREAT DEPRESSION mean anything to you? I doubt it, but you are about to find out. A Flat Tax would be great, I agree, but also get rid of the unions and make government SMALLER. They are the ones eating up all the taxes, and you wonder why they want more? The have insatiable appetites for fly their jets over the Empire State building, for parties in Washington, the very things they SAID they'd never do - THEY ARE DOING NOW. How do you like that CHANGE now, sucker?
SherryCan30th Apr 2009 -
??????????
Are you nuts? You raise the taxes on high-incomes (the very people that employ you), where do you think they'll make up the difference?????? LAYOFFS. Oh duh. the bottom line is what businesses look at. You tax them to death and it will be the death of your job and many others. Go ahead, make Obama's day.
SherryCan30th Apr 2009 -
Huh?
So the fact that the top 5% of earners pay 90% of the taxes is still not "fair"?
stano36030th Apr 2009 -
Do away with Income Tax
Get rid of Federal, State, Local taxes on your
paycheck and income.
Instead tax EVERYTHING at 2-4%. 1/2 goes to Federal,
1/2 to states. Real simple. Instead of taxing it
when or where you earn it, tax it when you spend it.
This way we get the rich to pay their fair share, the
illegals to pay their share, etc....
Money has to be spent at some point so it only makes
sense to tax it when it's spent.
Sadly, this is not "Change you can believe in"....
itguy0816th Apr 2009 -
Good Idea! 1
That's a great idea! that way there are no loopholes or complications. You just tax a small amount on everything no matter what. And, yes, it will make EVERYBODY pay taxes: Rich people usually spend way more than non-rich people and illegals have to buy food and other basic supplies.
Please send the idea to your congressman and senator!
juantar16th Apr 2009 -
Sorry, IT Guy,
but you have described a most regressive tax. It has been pushed as a "Fair Tax", but in reality it hits those with limited incomes the hardest because they must spend a much larger percentage of their income on necessities.
A family with an income of only $50,000 must spend almost everything. A family with an income of $200,000 can live the same as the one with only $50,000 and save the balance for retirement. This "Fair Tax" is grossly unfair to the lower income family.
On the other hand, the same revenue can be collected with a "Flat Tax" on all income and remain progressive by exempting a large initial part of income from taxation. I suggest twice the annualized minimum wage.
Update victim16th Apr 2009
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