Once again Gartner group releases some "No Shite Sherlock" information.
Only brain dead CIO's and pointy haired bosses listen to Gartner group.
Gartner: Skip Vista and wait for Windows 7
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Businesses that have not yet begun a deployment of Windows Vista should skip the operating system and start preparing for Windows 7, according to Gartner analysts.
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Businesses that have not yet begun a deployment of Windows Vista should skip the operating system and start preparing for Windows 7, analysts at Gartner have advised.
In an advisory, Michael Silver and Stephen Kleynhans said Windows 7's release was so close that it would not make sense to move to Vista beforehand.
"Preparing for Vista will require the same amount of effort as preparing for Windows 7 so, at this point, targeting Windows 7 would add less than six months to the schedule and would result in a plan that is more politically palatable, better for users, and results in greater longevity," the Gartner analysts wrote in the advisory, published on Wednesday.
Companies that are already in the middle of a Vista deployment should continue with their rollout but plan a switch to Windows 7 in late 2010 or early 2011, especially if their switch to Vista involved buying new hardware, the analysts wrote. If going to Windows 7 rather than Vista would delay the deployment by six months or less, then companies should simply consider switching to Windows 7 instead of Vista, they suggested.
Silver and Kleynhans said they expected PC manufacturers to begin testing the final Windows 7 code in August this year. Microsoft has not given a release date for Windows 7, but at the end of April, an Acer executive suggested that PCs using the upcoming operating system would go on sale on October 23. The release candidate for Windows 7 is currently available for download.
Microsoft itself has made a similar suggestion. Last Monday, the software maker's senior vice president for Windows, Bill Veghte, told TechEd attendees: "If you're just starting your testing of Vista, with the [Windows 7] release candidate and the quality of that offering, I would switch over and do your testing on the release candidate, and use that going forward."
More than half of businesses plan to skip Vista anyway, Gartner's analysts noted. However, they suggested that as Windows XP ages, most organizations will have to move to Windows 7 to make sure they are using a product that still has support.
"We advise organizations to move off of Windows XP by [the end of 2012] to avoid application support problems, even though Microsoft will support Windows XP into April 2014," Silver and Kleynhans wrote.
A Dell executive has, however, noted that licensing for the various versions of Windows 7 will be more expensive than it was for XP and Vista — a situation that might hinder early Windows 7 adoption.
In an interview with blogger Brooke Crothers on CNET News, Darrel Ward, director of product management for Dell's business client product group, said "schools and government agencies may not be able to afford [the additional cost, and] some of the smaller businesses may not be able to enjoy the software as soon as they'd like".
This article was originally posted on ZDNet UK.
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Their credibility died long ago but the final nail in the coffin was their
declaration that Itanium would kill off the UNIX RISC market - here we
are in 2009, and the market seems alive and well; IBM and SUN both are
putting out new and exciting RISC processors.
I can't believe that people pay for gartners advice given how wrong they
are over and over and over again.
declaration that Itanium would kill off the UNIX RISC market - here we
are in 2009, and the market seems alive and well; IBM and SUN both are
putting out new and exciting RISC processors.
I can't believe that people pay for gartners advice given how wrong they
are over and over and over again.
Sun is dead. SPARC hasn't been that exciting for years (no, I don't consider putting a lot of slow cores on a common die to be exciting).
POWER isn't all that exciting either.If you look at the SPARC64 and Rock
(which will be coming out soon), both of them are going well; infact Rock
has been growing well above the market rate. The point is, Gartner said
that these would be dead - Sun and IBM would be 100% Itanium; well, it
hasn't happened.
(which will be coming out soon), both of them are going well; infact Rock
has been growing well above the market rate. The point is, Gartner said
that these would be dead - Sun and IBM would be 100% Itanium; well, it
hasn't happened.
whatever you pay them to say. Gartner's greed or laziness has turned them into the court jester of the IT world. Go to it Gartner, you're making us all laugh.
This same "analyst" (what are the requirements to being an "analyst"?), Michael Silver, was saying in February and March to not skip Vista and Microsoft probably won't make their 2009 launch date.
We knew we were going to skip Vista when SP1 didn't stop the train wreck nor get the OS back on the tracks. You have to have one heck of a business argument to explain why you want your applications to run slower and the need to replace 18,000 PCs during an economic downturn.
I'm amazed at how many competing vendors have a Gartner Magic Quadrant showing themselves in the upper right quadrant. Save your money and kick Gartner to the curb. Do your own research and get real results that matter to you.
We knew we were going to skip Vista when SP1 didn't stop the train wreck nor get the OS back on the tracks. You have to have one heck of a business argument to explain why you want your applications to run slower and the need to replace 18,000 PCs during an economic downturn.
I'm amazed at how many competing vendors have a Gartner Magic Quadrant showing themselves in the upper right quadrant. Save your money and kick Gartner to the curb. Do your own research and get real results that matter to you.
Throw out enough BS and you're bound to be right occasionally.
Is this really necessary. If they have not done Vista by now what is the big deal of waiting about 6 months until Windows 7 is released. So all I gotta say to this is Thank You Captain Obvious!!
This is a good opportunity to move forward to the coming standard. And save a lot of money in the process.
How is he foaming? After using the Windows 7 RC myself I have to admit that it is impressive for Windows but 90% of the features in Windows 7 already exist in the likes of Ubuntu as well as heaps of others.
No need to be derogatory.
No need to be derogatory.
I guess you are not counting compatibility with software in that. Ubuntu has 90% of the features when compared to Home Basic maybe. Running Ubuntu 9.04 in a VM I think your view is a bit skewed. There is more to Windows than what you see in the GUI.
It's kind of a no brainer that you don't go car shopping the day before the new model year is released.
OTOH, anyone who has suffered failures of either automobiles or
software would be wise to think before they jump.
Personally, after more than a few mistakes myself, it would be better
to wait until the updates are applied to either new models whether
hardware or software.
Anyone who has had to deal with a new platform whether a engine,
transmission or software (especially an OS) will likely find themselves
beta testers.
YMMV, but I learned long ago to let the "bleeding edge" crowd suffer
through the growing pains. In software I wait for version 2 and for
cars the next model year.
software would be wise to think before they jump.
Personally, after more than a few mistakes myself, it would be better
to wait until the updates are applied to either new models whether
hardware or software.
Anyone who has had to deal with a new platform whether a engine,
transmission or software (especially an OS) will likely find themselves
beta testers.
YMMV, but I learned long ago to let the "bleeding edge" crowd suffer
through the growing pains. In software I wait for version 2 and for
cars the next model year.
After all the difference between Vista and say XP is
different enough for there to be a learning curve.. ie
Money. There there is the expense of upgrading from XP
to Vista... Money and time. Now if you consider once
Windows 7 is out Vista becomes the old OS waiting just a
bit more for Windows 7 will save one a lot of green. After
all in theory it is cheaper to go from XP to Windows 7 then
it would be to go from XP to Vista and then Windows 7
would it not?
Pagan jim
different enough for there to be a learning curve.. ie
Money. There there is the expense of upgrading from XP
to Vista... Money and time. Now if you consider once
Windows 7 is out Vista becomes the old OS waiting just a
bit more for Windows 7 will save one a lot of green. After
all in theory it is cheaper to go from XP to Windows 7 then
it would be to go from XP to Vista and then Windows 7
would it not?
Pagan jim
I bought my current pc back in 2004 with XP. And it looks like XP support will run into April 2014?
What is the point for consumers to buy a new OS? Everything I could want runs on XP. And if theres something thats amazing which doesnt run on XP, so what? I'll just do without. I already have many games on my Playstation 2, with no need for upgrading that either.
I really think its about time companies got around the overcharging thing. There are enough competitors (even within Microsofts OLD offerings), that are sufficient to not need a new OS for a long time to come.
As a consumer, will I really be too concerned about support ending in April 2014? The reality will probably be that my hardware will be the factor that causes me to upgrade. If that ever fails, I think only THEN would I consider "upgrading", if the repairs are uneconimical to do.
Until then, sorry, but Vista, Windows 7, and by 2014, Windows 10 possibly will be given a big PASS.
What is the point for consumers to buy a new OS? Everything I could want runs on XP. And if theres something thats amazing which doesnt run on XP, so what? I'll just do without. I already have many games on my Playstation 2, with no need for upgrading that either.
I really think its about time companies got around the overcharging thing. There are enough competitors (even within Microsofts OLD offerings), that are sufficient to not need a new OS for a long time to come.
As a consumer, will I really be too concerned about support ending in April 2014? The reality will probably be that my hardware will be the factor that causes me to upgrade. If that ever fails, I think only THEN would I consider "upgrading", if the repairs are uneconimical to do.
Until then, sorry, but Vista, Windows 7, and by 2014, Windows 10 possibly will be given a big PASS.
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