GeoEye spots Iranian nuclear site
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Satellite imagery company GeoEye has released a photo of what it says is the controversial and underground Iranian uranium enrichment site that came to light last week.
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Satellite imagery company GeoEye has released a photo of what it says is the controversial and underground Iranian uranium enrichment site that came to light last week.
The photo, taken Saturday, shows the facility at a military site about 20 miles north-northeast of Qum and 100 miles southwest of Tehran, GeoEye said. An analysis of the photo by IHS Jane's, a defense intelligence consulting firm, said the facility has a primary and several auxiliary entrances, ventilation shafts, a surface-to-air missile site, and quarry and construction equipment.
See the shots below for a view of what the companies say are the main and auxiliary entrances, the ventilation shafts, and an overall view.
The overall view of the Iranian site. The mountain under which the site is built is to the lower right of the image. Click to enlarge. (Credit: GeoEye satellite image/IHS Jane's analysis)
This view shows what IHS Jane's says are ventilation shafts and a possible auxiliary exit from the nuclear site.(Credit: GeoEye satellite image/IHS Jane's analysis)
The International Atomic Energy Agency said it received a letter Monday disclosing the facility, and on Friday Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said it was for uranium enrichment and was 18 months away from being operational.
Centrifuges can separate different isotopes of uranium to produced "enriched" uranium needed to make nuclear weapons; Iran said it's only enriching uranium for purposes of generating electricity. U.S. intelligence agencies said the newly revealed facility is designed to house 3,000 centrifuges, according to the New York Times and others.
The GeoEye-1 satellite took the photo while traveling north 423 miles above the Earth at 4 miles per second relative to the surface of the Earth. The satellite also supplies imagery for Google Maps and Google Earth.
At lower left in this shot is the main entrance to the facility; near it and to the upper right are two auxiliary access areas, according to an interpretation of the photo by IHS Jane's.Click to enlarge. (Credit: GeoEye satellite image/IHS Jane's analysis)
This article was originally posted on CNET News.
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Maybe you should before making out of hand comments... the only nut job here is you.
I do not worry, Israel does not miss around and will take care of it if they feel it is a threat, they have done it before and i am sure they will do it again. With or without US approval. In that sense, I love those guys!!!
For some people, peace is a real threat. It is specially true for people that manage and keep the population in a latent state of terror.
The Israeli government in total spend more in "defense" rather in health and education altogether.
The Israeli government in total spend more in "defense" rather in health and education altogether.
I have no reason to doubt what you said, and I am sure Israel would like to be able to spend that money in healh and education. But when you are surrounded by "fanatics" that will do about anything to destroy you, what else can you do but to invest on defending yourself? Do you understand?
America DOES think of Israel as a vassal state,
only able to act with the permission of the US.
Look at Zbigniew Brzezinski's recent comments
where he said that the US should shoot down
Israeli aircraft if Israel dares to attack Iran
without US permission. Of course, you have to
look at his associations. He worked for Jimmy
Carter, one of the biggest anti-Semites ever to
reach the office of President (in my opinion).
I can only hope Obama is smarter.
only able to act with the permission of the US.
Look at Zbigniew Brzezinski's recent comments
where he said that the US should shoot down
Israeli aircraft if Israel dares to attack Iran
without US permission. Of course, you have to
look at his associations. He worked for Jimmy
Carter, one of the biggest anti-Semites ever to
reach the office of President (in my opinion).
I can only hope Obama is smarter.
You should not be worried, because you are not living
here, or any friends or relatives here. We have to
worry, worry about friends, relatives, young people,
babies, our hopes, wishes. You won't miss anything,
Israel attack us or US. We miss homes, jobs, .... Ever
do you think your fuel come from? You just use it. It is
not important how many people dies for your beautiful
life.
here, or any friends or relatives here. We have to
worry, worry about friends, relatives, young people,
babies, our hopes, wishes. You won't miss anything,
Israel attack us or US. We miss homes, jobs, .... Ever
do you think your fuel come from? You just use it. It is
not important how many people dies for your beautiful
life.
There you go again, all the problems over there are the US fault, yada yada ydada. Of course you or your government have no responnsibility.
OK, let's not do anything and wait until Iran has a nuclear weapon. What do you think will happen next? Can the world afford to take that chance?
OK, let's not do anything and wait until Iran has a nuclear weapon. What do you think will happen next? Can the world afford to take that chance?
Americans live in, you would realize that the US influences most of the World Wide governments, and most of the extreme poverty that many in third world countries live in are directly due to dictators the US presidents have put in place VIA the CIA to protect the United States Facist views of the world to protect the US base MNC interests abroad.
Stop and ask yourself, why is it the United States has to import most of its oil? Oh that's right We the United States reserve the right to consume more than 30% of the rest of the worlds resources, but only count for a few percentage points in terms of global percentage of population. Talk about being glutinous with the world's resources. No wonder over the average American is obese.
And what do you think would really happen if Tehran gets a Nuclear Weapon? If they would ever use it, they would have the UN on their azz like white on rice. And at most they are a threat to the Middle East or Europe. They have no long range capabilities to get it to the US. So you can rest comfortably that should they set one off, it will only have an indirect impact on your life.
Stop and ask yourself, why is it the United States has to import most of its oil? Oh that's right We the United States reserve the right to consume more than 30% of the rest of the worlds resources, but only count for a few percentage points in terms of global percentage of population. Talk about being glutinous with the world's resources. No wonder over the average American is obese.
And what do you think would really happen if Tehran gets a Nuclear Weapon? If they would ever use it, they would have the UN on their azz like white on rice. And at most they are a threat to the Middle East or Europe. They have no long range capabilities to get it to the US. So you can rest comfortably that should they set one off, it will only have an indirect impact on your life.
So? Yes, Americans have a higher standard of living than most of the world, so? What is your point?
And, yes we do watch over our interests and protect them. so?
We also pay billions of dollars for the oil we consume, we do not steal it.
Now, that you over there do not know how to invest that money and improve yourselves is not our fault is it?. Think about it!
And, yes we do watch over our interests and protect them. so?
We also pay billions of dollars for the oil we consume, we do not steal it.
Now, that you over there do not know how to invest that money and improve yourselves is not our fault is it?. Think about it!
Just the statement about the UN coming down on Iran like "white on rice" if they use a nuke is dangerous at best...
One, what good would it do once a nuclear bomb had already been detonated? Answer- NONE.
Two, what could the UN ever hope to accomplish without the US? Answer- NOTHING.
You can be sure that, with or without the UN, the US WILL protect their (and the Earth's) interests against those madmen of the world who's only goals are chaos and death.
~Peace~
One, what good would it do once a nuclear bomb had already been detonated? Answer- NONE.
Two, what could the UN ever hope to accomplish without the US? Answer- NOTHING.
You can be sure that, with or without the UN, the US WILL protect their (and the Earth's) interests against those madmen of the world who's only goals are chaos and death.
~Peace~
So you are guaranting me that any nuclear devices that Iran detonates will not produce radioactive byproducts that just might find their way around the world?
A long range missile is the only option for delivering a nuclear device? That no other means exist? "We have ships anchored in several of your major harbours with nuclear devices that will be detonated if you do not give in to our demands! For now, we will detonate the one in Puget Sound to show we are serious -- and wiping out Microsoft is a nice bonus."
Yes, that would take fanatics. Given the human wave tactics used in the Iran/Iraq war, it would appear that finding fanatics is not all that hard to do in that part of the world.
Gee.. the UN on their ass like white on rice. Blow up another 5 cities and we will sanction you -- if the main assembly or the security counsel ever get their acts together long enough to do anything at any speed other than glacial.
Or as an even cheerier thought, check the various idea on the design and delivery (if needed) of a doomsday device. Build yourself an oversized fission/fusion/fission device, jacket it in a fine array of soon to be highly radioactive materials and detonate. While not quite the handy dandy planet wide exterminator it is portrayed as in fiction, it would work quite well for ending disputes with your close neighbours. Hey, no populace, no popular unrest.
Hmmm... detonate a bomb in Moscow and we can find out if Wired was right in claiming that "Dead Hand" is still active. Search on "dead hand", perimeter and/or "mertvaya ruka". Transliterating the latter back to Cyrillic is left as an exercise for the student.
A long range missile is the only option for delivering a nuclear device? That no other means exist? "We have ships anchored in several of your major harbours with nuclear devices that will be detonated if you do not give in to our demands! For now, we will detonate the one in Puget Sound to show we are serious -- and wiping out Microsoft is a nice bonus."
Yes, that would take fanatics. Given the human wave tactics used in the Iran/Iraq war, it would appear that finding fanatics is not all that hard to do in that part of the world.
Gee.. the UN on their ass like white on rice. Blow up another 5 cities and we will sanction you -- if the main assembly or the security counsel ever get their acts together long enough to do anything at any speed other than glacial.
Or as an even cheerier thought, check the various idea on the design and delivery (if needed) of a doomsday device. Build yourself an oversized fission/fusion/fission device, jacket it in a fine array of soon to be highly radioactive materials and detonate. While not quite the handy dandy planet wide exterminator it is portrayed as in fiction, it would work quite well for ending disputes with your close neighbours. Hey, no populace, no popular unrest.
Hmmm... detonate a bomb in Moscow and we can find out if Wired was right in claiming that "Dead Hand" is still active. Search on "dead hand", perimeter and/or "mertvaya ruka". Transliterating the latter back to Cyrillic is left as an exercise for the student.
You have it wrong: It doesn't matter how many terrorist rag-heads die. Not people.
Do you think Obama is Iranian, or you think Iran in
Africa? Why do you think Obama has any relative here?
Africa? Why do you think Obama has any relative here?
wow look at all the Deleted censorship!
IRAN will pay for these decisions soon enough
IRAN will pay for these decisions soon enough
I am actually glad they were deleted, they were really ignorant comments about "nuke them" and Obama not nuking his family over there. Sorry but that is just plain ignorant!
On the nuke them comment, I would like to add that the US will not and does not need to use those kinds of weapons (nuclear) for the simple reason that it has many more alternatives at its disposal.
Unlike Iran which is bent on wiping Israel out of the map. They in the other hand, do not have the arsenal to do it, the only way they could accomplish that is by getting themselves some nuclear weapons.
On the nuke them comment, I would like to add that the US will not and does not need to use those kinds of weapons (nuclear) for the simple reason that it has many more alternatives at its disposal.
Unlike Iran which is bent on wiping Israel out of the map. They in the other hand, do not have the arsenal to do it, the only way they could accomplish that is by getting themselves some nuclear weapons.
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If it's so peaceful, why do they build it underground?
They have to know they are under a microscope.
Personally, I'm not in favor of the 'if you have nothing to fear, police searches are no problem' (in fact, we fought a war of independance over that), but when you are under a microscope, some common sense would show that they should open the labs to inspections.
Missle sites? Peaceful? No kidding.
== John ==
They have to know they are under a microscope.
Personally, I'm not in favor of the 'if you have nothing to fear, police searches are no problem' (in fact, we fought a war of independance over that), but when you are under a microscope, some common sense would show that they should open the labs to inspections.
Missle sites? Peaceful? No kidding.
== John ==
Makes it easier to seal off in case of a catastrophic failure.
Makes it harder to knock out with an air strike.
We're not paranoid. They are out to get us.
Makes it harder to knock out with an air strike.
We're not paranoid. They are out to get us.
... and what drives me to distraction is that Obama hasn't publicly asked this same question. The Iranians make this asinine, infantile attempt at deception and foreign functionaries play along. Is the human race crazy, or what?
I am very interested in how we can better understand each other. Do you feel your recent elections were fair and do you feel you should abide by UN agreements that you've signed? From the US perpective, we see your recent elections as being unfair and your unwillingness to abide by UN agreement as problematic. Can you help us better understand???
Why underground? Be fair and HONEST: for same reason DIMONA, 'israel', is underground; but, unregistered, denied, unauthorized, uninspected, threathening to even EU, and US tax-robbed-money sponsored. And with a claim of 400-600 nuclear weapons they simply shouldn't have, given the tribe's natural genocidal tendencies and criminal behavior worldwide. As for Iran's elections, PLEASE, what about he garbage pulled on Americans with last two IMPLANTS, both pampering 'israel'??
If I understand you correctly the world should just let Iran have their reactor and capability to create nuclear weapons? Is that what you are saying?
Yes, Israel has had that capability and weapons since the late 60's. And..... how many times have they used them? Hmmm.
I guess their natural genocidal tendencies and criminal behavior do not live up to your expectations!
Yes, Israel has had that capability and weapons since the late 60's. And..... how many times have they used them? Hmmm.
I guess their natural genocidal tendencies and criminal behavior do not live up to your expectations!
Israel has had a nuclear capability since the 1960s and has not yet used one. Strange for a group about whom you babbled "given the tribe's natural genocidal tendencies". Could it be that prejudice is rearing it's ugly head? The Six Days war could have been the Six Minutes war if Israel had used nukes. Or perhaps -- the next suicide bomber who attacks Israelis will be commemorated by a nuclear device being ground burst at the following co-ordinates 21.4267 N, 39.8261 E.
Latitude/Longitude subject to minor changes.
Latitude/Longitude subject to minor changes.
The GeoEye in the sky doesn't lie.
And Iran's provocative missile launches of late just show everyone their true intentions. They thumb their noses at the world. They directly threaten our allies in Europe and the Middle East, thereby also threatening the US.
Sanctions against Iran will never work. They care little about their own population, who are but sheep for the slaughter. There is no negotiating with madmen.
Iran WILL see consequences for their unwise actions should they continue down the path they have chosen, and I think they will not like it. Poke the big dog one too many times, and it's only natural for it to bite back...
And Iran's provocative missile launches of late just show everyone their true intentions. They thumb their noses at the world. They directly threaten our allies in Europe and the Middle East, thereby also threatening the US.
Sanctions against Iran will never work. They care little about their own population, who are but sheep for the slaughter. There is no negotiating with madmen.
Iran WILL see consequences for their unwise actions should they continue down the path they have chosen, and I think they will not like it. Poke the big dog one too many times, and it's only natural for it to bite back...
John and the rest, what place is this, and in which country? NOT the USA? 'israel'? All you say above applies and is known worldwide, to the outpost of the Rothschilds, 'israel'. When shall we see dubious GeoEye pinpointing for us the illegal and genocidal DIMONA on screen? Get educated, Iran didn't say 'israel' wipped out, that was the Zionic Media. They said, the Zionic Regime, most brutal and criminal on earth today. Now, please delete me, am out of topic, right?
Sorry, I know I am out of subject but I could not get this word out of my head. I just had to look up its formal definition:
schizophrenia: a psychotic disorder characterized by loss of contact with the environment, by noticeable deterioration in the level of functioning in everyday life, and by disintegration of personality expressed as disorder of feeling, thought (as delusions), perception (as hallucinations), and behavior ?called also dementia praecox ? compare paranoid schizophrenia.
You guys decide.
schizophrenia: a psychotic disorder characterized by loss of contact with the environment, by noticeable deterioration in the level of functioning in everyday life, and by disintegration of personality expressed as disorder of feeling, thought (as delusions), perception (as hallucinations), and behavior ?called also dementia praecox ? compare paranoid schizophrenia.
You guys decide.
Hmmm... a place built back in the 1950s. A place which was deemed capable of constructing nuclear bombs in the 1960s. A place whose product doesn't yet seem to have been used.
Genocidal? Hardly to this point in time.
Though entirely possible that anyone succeeding in overrunning the state of Israel might find little to return home to. Push anyone far enough and the unthinkable becomes thinkable.
As for pinpointing the site of Dimona, the co-ordinates are easy enough to find, several Ikonos satellite images exist. Not exactly the biggest secret since the U-2 overflights back in the 1960s and the arguments over whom would inspect the plant. BTW, the American inspectors concluded the inspections were useless since they had to schedule the inspections, could only inspect certain areas of the plant, etc. Again, matters of public record.
Genocidal? Hardly to this point in time.
Though entirely possible that anyone succeeding in overrunning the state of Israel might find little to return home to. Push anyone far enough and the unthinkable becomes thinkable.
As for pinpointing the site of Dimona, the co-ordinates are easy enough to find, several Ikonos satellite images exist. Not exactly the biggest secret since the U-2 overflights back in the 1960s and the arguments over whom would inspect the plant. BTW, the American inspectors concluded the inspections were useless since they had to schedule the inspections, could only inspect certain areas of the plant, etc. Again, matters of public record.
OOPS! Backwards! 'israel' thinks, and has said so, that America is ITS vassal! And with 'Italian' Pelosi pitching, and 'Hawaiian' OBaama at bat, and the house full of the same dual-loyalty, dual-passport pro-'israel' cronies, all we shall hear is demonizing of the victims of invader, squatter 'israel'. Am sure you don't know the terrorist outpost was created by the stroke of a pen, Rothschilds, over existing Palestinian pops. Oh, but that's not important. Let's nuke Iran, so the terrorists can expand further and steal even more oil.
Like it or not Israel is there to stay, they have the resources and the backing to do it! Get over it! Until you and everyone like you learn to deal with that fact there will be no peace, and the sad part is that because of fanatics like you too many inocent people have died and will continue to die and even though that region has a huge resource that can make them superpowers they will never thrive.
It is just sad....
Forget that! Let's just blame the zionist terrorists and their dual-loyalty, dual passport... bla bla bla.... better yet, blame all americans, they live well while the rest of the world suffers. it must be their fault!
It is just sad....
Forget that! Let's just blame the zionist terrorists and their dual-loyalty, dual passport... bla bla bla.... better yet, blame all americans, they live well while the rest of the world suffers. it must be their fault!
Last time I looked, the American "terrorists" were paying for the oil. Are they holding guns and bombs to your heads to force you to sell oil at cheap prices? Saudi princes are not able to afford new polo ponies every couple of months?
So someone call Rothschild passed U.N. General Assembly Resolution 181 all by his lonesome?
Hmmm... "To argue with those who have renounced the use and authority of reason is as futile as to administer medicine to the dead."
Congratulations on placing yourself firmly in that group.
So someone call Rothschild passed U.N. General Assembly Resolution 181 all by his lonesome?
Hmmm... "To argue with those who have renounced the use and authority of reason is as futile as to administer medicine to the dead."
Congratulations on placing yourself firmly in that group.
You need to Google, I can't lead you by the hand. The terrorists who established the outpost have declared publicly that even the EU is their target, shall their insane demands are not met. Not genocidal? The cruelest murder of innocent women and children and disarmed farmers in Palestine, is not genocide? Their unrestricted and condoned nuclear ARSENAL, the GOLEM, a world threat, not genocidal? Their big 2 Wars and a 3rd in the brewing, not genocidal?...
Their pointless bombing (Eisenhower, FDR, jews) of innocent German CIVILIANS at Dresden after the war ended and the murder of thousands of prisoners by exposure, NOT genocide? THEIR (Baxter-Novartis, jews) intended but failed 'Avian Flu' pandemic, not world genocide? Lastly, the 'Swine Flu' HOAX, Bio-terror WMD, about to execute, NOT genocide? Am excluding 'little' ones, 911, USS Liberty, Vietnam, Korea, PanAm, Lockerby, Lebanon, Ukraine, Russia, Poland, ad nauseam. All benefitting the jew banksters, and ultimately 'israel'.
What's your age? What planet you dwell on? Or do you 'inhabit' this ZD site, your 'assignment' in defense of poor 'israel'? Hmmm. Figures, they read it all in their Talmud: the goy is an expendable cow, right? However, the moment the terrorists try ONE nuke, not this GeoEye, but the RussianEye, will blow that spot into a glass parking lot.
Their pointless bombing (Eisenhower, FDR, jews) of innocent German CIVILIANS at Dresden after the war ended and the murder of thousands of prisoners by exposure, NOT genocide? THEIR (Baxter-Novartis, jews) intended but failed 'Avian Flu' pandemic, not world genocide? Lastly, the 'Swine Flu' HOAX, Bio-terror WMD, about to execute, NOT genocide? Am excluding 'little' ones, 911, USS Liberty, Vietnam, Korea, PanAm, Lockerby, Lebanon, Ukraine, Russia, Poland, ad nauseam. All benefitting the jew banksters, and ultimately 'israel'.
What's your age? What planet you dwell on? Or do you 'inhabit' this ZD site, your 'assignment' in defense of poor 'israel'? Hmmm. Figures, they read it all in their Talmud: the goy is an expendable cow, right? However, the moment the terrorists try ONE nuke, not this GeoEye, but the RussianEye, will blow that spot into a glass parking lot.
You are well overdue to take your meds!!! Please do it before they have you committed.
The sad part is that you and fanatics like you truly believe that crap.
The sad part is that you and fanatics like you truly believe that crap.
I just realized... you will never buy your prescribed meds, you will be helping one of those big jewish corporations or your are convinced that in reality they are trying to poison you.
LOL
LOL
With this statement:
"However, the moment the terrorists try ONE nuke, not this GeoEye, but the RussianEye, will blow that spot into a glass parking lot."
And that was not the zionist propaganda media, that was you!
That is why that Iranian nuclear site has to be destroyed.
Thanks you!
"However, the moment the terrorists try ONE nuke, not this GeoEye, but the RussianEye, will blow that spot into a glass parking lot."
And that was not the zionist propaganda media, that was you!
That is why that Iranian nuclear site has to be destroyed.
Thanks you!
At first I thought debalazo was just trying to goad us imperialists, but now I think it may be more serious than that. I hope Homeland Security is looking in on this thread...
Is there an official list of things they must do to regain trust? Or is it more like a "you will never" be allowed.
It would seem to make sense (and waste less time) if this was documented and Iran simply reviewed (annually? every 4yrs?) to see if they pass the test.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for protecting innocent people from madmen, but are some people actually saying that this generation and every generation after that cannot be trusted? If it is presented like that to any country how do we expect them to change?
It would seem to make sense (and waste less time) if this was documented and Iran simply reviewed (annually? every 4yrs?) to see if they pass the test.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for protecting innocent people from madmen, but are some people actually saying that this generation and every generation after that cannot be trusted? If it is presented like that to any country how do we expect them to change?
My dear friends Israel will Not be destroyed NO MATTER
what tirantical governments do .They will survive ! history says so.
what tirantical governments do .They will survive ! history says so.
Israel has nuclear weapons. It is an open 'secret'. Israel are not signatories to any non-proliferation treaties. Better send the bombers in, eh?
The issue is not having nuclear capabilities or nuclear weapons. The issue is how the rest of the world "perceives" how that nuclear power will be used. Will it be used responsibly?
Has Iran shown the world how they intend to use that power? Have they shown that it will be used responsibly?
The world is not just the US and Israel and it will rally in behalf of Iran to protect its "right" to have and utilize nuclear power.
But they can not do so because of Iran's aggresive posture towards other countries, in particular Israel.
People, it is very simple!
If Iran tones down its aggressive rhetoric towards Israel and the US, and opens the doors to the world to show that they are being responsible and are going to use their nuclear resources responsibly. Then no one will have any justification to stop them from doing so.
Why don't they?
Has Iran shown the world how they intend to use that power? Have they shown that it will be used responsibly?
The world is not just the US and Israel and it will rally in behalf of Iran to protect its "right" to have and utilize nuclear power.
But they can not do so because of Iran's aggresive posture towards other countries, in particular Israel.
People, it is very simple!
If Iran tones down its aggressive rhetoric towards Israel and the US, and opens the doors to the world to show that they are being responsible and are going to use their nuclear resources responsibly. Then no one will have any justification to stop them from doing so.
Why don't they?
Because their intentions are not honorable. Period. Given their track record, they need to call off the holy war, and be totally transparent about their nuke program in order to gain ANY trust! They know this full well, yet they do nothing positive, instead they test missiles ala North Korea. No trust for madmen...
Let's look at how the US has used nuclear weapons shall we?
The first outing was the nuclear bombing of 2 civilian targets at a time of the day calculated to vapourise the most innocent civilians (as opposed to military targets). Not to worry though, the apologists have a whole host of reasons and excuses wjhy it is perfectly rational, reasonable and justifiable for the US to have deplpoyed the world's first nuclear weapons on civilian targets. Let's move now through the 5000+ live nuclear tests which the US carried out as it's military perfected the nuclear weapons it asserts it has a right to hold. Note that other nations conducting nuclear tests are dangerous, nasty entities who must be reviles for their obviously aggressive tendencies. Luckily, the US can explode as many nuclear weapons as it likes, and no harm done.
John Wayne and a host of other US icons dies as a result of the radioactive pollution US nuclear weapons tests pumped into lands surrounding the test sites. No harm done though - if American nuclear radiation from Americam nuclear weapons kills innocent people, it's not only perfectly justifiable, it would only be a crime if some other nation did it.
Having finished all the live atomic testing they needed, the US declared that all live nuclear testihg must stop. After all how can the US pose a significant threat to ANY nation if those nations are allowed to explore means of defending themselves? Only the USA is allowed to hold the threat of nuclear destruction over less developped counties, anything else just wouldn't do.
Move forward now to the first and second gulf wars, where US A-10 tankbusters could fire 120 tonnes of depleted uranium rounds a minute.
Depleted Uranium rounds are weapons made out of American nuclear waste. What a doubnle whammy! America gets to dump the nuclear waste from its reactors all over the middle east by the ton, in the form of munitions, and the radiation ensuing will still be toxic when the sun turns into a red giant and earth is completely destroyed. Vast areas of the middle east are now poisoned and inhabitable forever. The sickening birth defects caused by American DU have not confined themselves to 'the enemy'. Coalition troops and their families have been touched by the horrors of US low-level nuclear warfare but again, no harm done - it would only be a crime if some other geo-politically entity was responsible. And hey, its as easy as 1-2-3 for the DoD and the UK's MoD to simply deny there is any problem - the affected soldiers die in agony in their own time, out of site, and democracy triumphs again.
Israel hid it's nuclear stockpile from the US in 1968 and now, even though they are not a signatory to any NPT, Israel has hundreds of A and H bombs, plus biological weapons. But no harm done, because Iran - who haven't invaded anyone in the last 300 years - a 'threat to world peace!'
It must be true, I saw it on Fox news.
Dear oh dear.
The first outing was the nuclear bombing of 2 civilian targets at a time of the day calculated to vapourise the most innocent civilians (as opposed to military targets). Not to worry though, the apologists have a whole host of reasons and excuses wjhy it is perfectly rational, reasonable and justifiable for the US to have deplpoyed the world's first nuclear weapons on civilian targets. Let's move now through the 5000+ live nuclear tests which the US carried out as it's military perfected the nuclear weapons it asserts it has a right to hold. Note that other nations conducting nuclear tests are dangerous, nasty entities who must be reviles for their obviously aggressive tendencies. Luckily, the US can explode as many nuclear weapons as it likes, and no harm done.
John Wayne and a host of other US icons dies as a result of the radioactive pollution US nuclear weapons tests pumped into lands surrounding the test sites. No harm done though - if American nuclear radiation from Americam nuclear weapons kills innocent people, it's not only perfectly justifiable, it would only be a crime if some other nation did it.
Having finished all the live atomic testing they needed, the US declared that all live nuclear testihg must stop. After all how can the US pose a significant threat to ANY nation if those nations are allowed to explore means of defending themselves? Only the USA is allowed to hold the threat of nuclear destruction over less developped counties, anything else just wouldn't do.
Move forward now to the first and second gulf wars, where US A-10 tankbusters could fire 120 tonnes of depleted uranium rounds a minute.
Depleted Uranium rounds are weapons made out of American nuclear waste. What a doubnle whammy! America gets to dump the nuclear waste from its reactors all over the middle east by the ton, in the form of munitions, and the radiation ensuing will still be toxic when the sun turns into a red giant and earth is completely destroyed. Vast areas of the middle east are now poisoned and inhabitable forever. The sickening birth defects caused by American DU have not confined themselves to 'the enemy'. Coalition troops and their families have been touched by the horrors of US low-level nuclear warfare but again, no harm done - it would only be a crime if some other geo-politically entity was responsible. And hey, its as easy as 1-2-3 for the DoD and the UK's MoD to simply deny there is any problem - the affected soldiers die in agony in their own time, out of site, and democracy triumphs again.
Israel hid it's nuclear stockpile from the US in 1968 and now, even though they are not a signatory to any NPT, Israel has hundreds of A and H bombs, plus biological weapons. But no harm done, because Iran - who haven't invaded anyone in the last 300 years - a 'threat to world peace!'
It must be true, I saw it on Fox news.
Dear oh dear.
Yes, the US has been the only country to have used nuclear weapons in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, so?
If I recall, there was a war going on where millions of soldiers and civilians were killed and if left to go on many more would have still died. And that has to do what with Iran?
What, John Wayne what? I think you deserve a "whatever!" on that one
So, I do not get your point about nuclear testing. You mention the US like if they were the only ones. Ahh, of course, the US is Satan! Stupid of me for forgeting your position.
OK, depleted uranium (DU) ammo, what does that have to do with Iran? You also talk about the US using DU as if we were the only ones which we are not, most superpowers (US, Russia, China, UK, France) us it.
I know we are off the subject but I will comment on DU because not many people are aware of this practice. Depleted uranium has some amazing properties that make it a great penetrator. It does not only has a very high density, it also has incendiary properties that make it excellent for armour-piercing. This type of ammunition has less aerodynamic drag and deeper penetration due to its density and because it burns easily when it hits any type of shield, instead of turning into a mushroom, it heats up and burns turning very sharp allowing it to go through. As a plus it is also burning which will set fire anything around it. Truly a very effective round!
Now, it is also a very dangerous material. There is a lot of controversy around it, and even though all of the physical evidence is not clearly conclusive "I believe" it should not be used, I think it might have long term effects not only to our own soldiers but also the environment where used.
Anyways, nothing to do with Iran.
Like I said before, why don't they tone down the aggression and open up to the world so they can show their "peaceful" intentions?
It does not seem that complicated, unless of course they have a different agenda.
If I recall, there was a war going on where millions of soldiers and civilians were killed and if left to go on many more would have still died. And that has to do what with Iran?
What, John Wayne what? I think you deserve a "whatever!" on that one
So, I do not get your point about nuclear testing. You mention the US like if they were the only ones. Ahh, of course, the US is Satan! Stupid of me for forgeting your position.
OK, depleted uranium (DU) ammo, what does that have to do with Iran? You also talk about the US using DU as if we were the only ones which we are not, most superpowers (US, Russia, China, UK, France) us it.
I know we are off the subject but I will comment on DU because not many people are aware of this practice. Depleted uranium has some amazing properties that make it a great penetrator. It does not only has a very high density, it also has incendiary properties that make it excellent for armour-piercing. This type of ammunition has less aerodynamic drag and deeper penetration due to its density and because it burns easily when it hits any type of shield, instead of turning into a mushroom, it heats up and burns turning very sharp allowing it to go through. As a plus it is also burning which will set fire anything around it. Truly a very effective round!
Now, it is also a very dangerous material. There is a lot of controversy around it, and even though all of the physical evidence is not clearly conclusive "I believe" it should not be used, I think it might have long term effects not only to our own soldiers but also the environment where used.
Anyways, nothing to do with Iran.
Like I said before, why don't they tone down the aggression and open up to the world so they can show their "peaceful" intentions?
It does not seem that complicated, unless of course they have a different agenda.
You ar muting the bombing of Iran on the basis of their intentions - I say, if 'intentions' were the deciding factor in what nation might become nuclear terrorists, the US track record is shocking.
You then go on to big up DU while completely and totally ignoring the fact that this radioactive material, fashioned from US nuclear waste, is a deadly toxin. It's radiation last sfor millions of years, and huge swathes of the middle east have been rendered no go areas from now until the end of time, by the US coalitions use of these low-level nuclear weapons all over somebody else's couontry, for the last 20 years.
Intentions?? Nuclear terrorism is, as nuclear terrorism does. The US has been waging low level nuclear war in the middle east for the last 20 years. And that's how long US nuclear warfare has been killing not just indigenous people's but coalition troops as well.
So much for judging a nation's suitabilitu for having nuclear weapons! On that basis, given that the US are STILL using DU munitions today, I think the US are far better nuclear terrorists than Iran, right now!
Take a good look at the pictures on this page - I really hope they make you sick
http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/extremedeformities.html
That's what US Depleted Uranium has been doing since you cowboys started throwing it around in Gulf War 1. Low grade, American nuclear war, still ongoing.
And this is also affecting YOUR troops!
You then go on to big up DU while completely and totally ignoring the fact that this radioactive material, fashioned from US nuclear waste, is a deadly toxin. It's radiation last sfor millions of years, and huge swathes of the middle east have been rendered no go areas from now until the end of time, by the US coalitions use of these low-level nuclear weapons all over somebody else's couontry, for the last 20 years.
Intentions?? Nuclear terrorism is, as nuclear terrorism does. The US has been waging low level nuclear war in the middle east for the last 20 years. And that's how long US nuclear warfare has been killing not just indigenous people's but coalition troops as well.
So much for judging a nation's suitabilitu for having nuclear weapons! On that basis, given that the US are STILL using DU munitions today, I think the US are far better nuclear terrorists than Iran, right now!
Take a good look at the pictures on this page - I really hope they make you sick
http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/extremedeformities.html
That's what US Depleted Uranium has been doing since you cowboys started throwing it around in Gulf War 1. Low grade, American nuclear war, still ongoing.
And this is also affecting YOUR troops!
How about letting us know about your views on this Iranian nuclear facility?
I guess by your definition every world superpower is a nuclear terrorist? Remember the US is only one of many countries currently using DU in their ammo.
Also, I already expressed my possition on DU, I do not agree with its use and as the world leaders we are, we should lead by example and stop its use.
Now, I also expressed my views on why leaving Iran unchecked to build a nuclear site is not only dangerous but irresponsible. Please tell me why the world should let Iran finish building its nuclear site unchecked.
Please, I do not want to hear any more US this... or US that.. or Israel or DU. I would like to know about Iran and why do you feel they are ready have nuclear power.
I am eagerly awaiting your response.
I guess by your definition every world superpower is a nuclear terrorist? Remember the US is only one of many countries currently using DU in their ammo.
Also, I already expressed my possition on DU, I do not agree with its use and as the world leaders we are, we should lead by example and stop its use.
Now, I also expressed my views on why leaving Iran unchecked to build a nuclear site is not only dangerous but irresponsible. Please tell me why the world should let Iran finish building its nuclear site unchecked.
Please, I do not want to hear any more US this... or US that.. or Israel or DU. I would like to know about Iran and why do you feel they are ready have nuclear power.
I am eagerly awaiting your response.
No, you have it wrong: It doesn't matter how many terrorist rag-heads die. Not people.
This reminds of the whole Iraq lies again. Iran
being set up for something? Just wondering.
being set up for something? Just wondering.
That will be using the same standards.... you just can't
do that. The same rules? .....hell no.
do that. The same rules? .....hell no.
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