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High hopes at Yahoo, Intel for Internet-enabled TV

Stephen Shankland, CNET News | December 29, 2008 5:59 AM PST

Summary

Yahoo and Intel hope products to be shown at the Consumer Electronics Show in January will mark the beginning of their Internet-fueled expansion to the world of TV.
Yahoo and Intel built their success upon widespread use of personal computers, but the two companies hope products to be shown at the Consumer Electronics Show in January will mark the beginning of their Internet-fueled expansion to the world of TV as well.

The two companies have attracted several significant manufacturing and content allies in the attempt to bring new smarts and interactivity to a part of the electronics world that has remained a more passive part of people's digital lives.

Intel and Yahoo showed off Net-enabled TV prototypes in August, but the companies' technology will be presented in more finished form at the electronics show within products by Samsung, Toshiba, and a number of new partners that have signed on since the debut.

What exactly are they trying to achieve? For Yahoo, it's establishment of the Widget Channel, a software foundation that can house programs for browsing photos, using the Internet's abundant socially connected services, watching YouTube videos, or digging deeper into TV shows--and through which Yahoo will be able to show advertisements. For Intel, it's a foothold in an industry whose microprocessors have typically been cheaper, less powerful, and less power-hungry.

Yahoo is confident the products will catch on, in part because it's set "very low" licensing requirements, said Patrick Barry, vice president of Yahoo's Connected TV initiative.

"We do not see it as a niche offering in a few high-end models. We see this as moving into the mainstream. In 2009 we're going to see good penetration into the product lineups of the consumer electronics companies," Barry said. "Beginning in 2010, I think, you're going to see Internet-connected consumer electronics devices dominating the lineup."

But for both companies, TVs are terra incognita. "We emerged from the ocean of the PC," Barry said.

An anthropologist's view
Despite years of effort, the idea to put media-centric PCs in the living room hasn't caught on widely. But Intel, stung by its poorly received Viiv brand, has been taking the challenge seriously.

It even dispatched its top anthropologist--yes, the chipmaker employs anthropologists--to carefully study how people use TVs. In other words, Intel is trying to adapt to reality, not foist its ideas on an unwilling market.

Some people like to watch TV, but anthropologist Genevieve Bell, director of user experience for Intel, likes to watch people watching TV. Specifically, Intel concluded that unlike the PC, TVs are social. People watch it together, and what they watch turns into what they talk about. Another difference from PCs: it must be simple and reliable, she said.

When bringing the Internet to the TV, "You couldn't just turn it into a PC," she said.

And it's pretty obvious why those not in the TV market would be angling for a piece of the action. People in the U.S. spend about 5 times more time watching TV than using a computer, Bell said. Globally, it's a factor of 25; unusually, the TV and PC time is at parity in Israel, perhaps because of communication habits, she added.

More ads
For decades, people have been accustomed to advertising-supported television. The Widget Channel technology opens up some new horizons for Yahoo, though Barry said the company isn't going to rush to plaster sponsorships over the new interface.

"We have a lot of support from the advertising community, but we're focused on the consumer now," Barry said. "What you'll see initially is us trying to fall all over ourselves trying to make the consumer happy. The advertisers understand that." He wouldn't comment on when advertising will be launched with the technology.

Although Yahoo will eventually show ads, it won't have a lock on them. Barry said: "We are not going to be locking down anything from a walled garden perspective, including monetization. We get a nice advantage, knowing the ins and outs, but we will not limit the platform to being addressable by us."

There are many opportunities for ads, including the dock that can be shown across the bottom of the TV screen and in pages that fill the screen.

The Widget Channel technology is based on the Widget Engine software Yahoo got in 2005 with its acquisition of Konfabulator, and it lets programmers write a wide variety of applications. Course corrections
Intel learned from initial testing of the TV technology, Bell said. For one thing, the company found that people didn't like the Widget Channel controls appearing on the left edge of the screen, one option the companies had demonstrated. Instead, people prefer the bottom, where they're accustomed to seeing text already.

For another, she said, people expressed a powerful desire for a big button to make the software go away in one fell swoop--no menus or arrow keys or complication--so they could get back to watching TV when they wanted. That big button is also used to activate the Widget Channel.

And nobody wanted yet another remote control.

To help chart its long-term course, Intel gauged consumer sentiment in part by asking what people thought the future of TV would look like. People's answers generally fit into a few categories:

• Something that would provide relevant information in real time, such as the weather right before heading to a sporting event.

• Something that would connect them to other people they care about, a variation of social networking.

• Something that would let them participate more with what they're watching, for example by figuring out where a show's cast members already had acted, or finding, rating, and sorting content.

Few, though, wanted a full-on Web browser, nor a keyboard to clutter up the room.

Yahoo sees the same fallow ground as Intel in the market.

TV innovations that have succeeded focused on screen size, image fidelity, and flat-screen technology, Barry said. "But the consumer electronics industry has not really explored the...connectivity that the Internet provides."

Talkback Most Recent of 12 Talkback(s)

  • It always sounds good...
    Then advertising takes over, and ruins everything. TV is nothing more than a way to serve commercials, the TV content has become crap.Advertising is the root of all evil !!!
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    dwr50
    29th Dec 2008
  • Thanks a lot!
    And my dad makes ads. I would have nothing without that
    business... SO STFU!
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    W1LL-B1LL
    29th Dec 2008
  • ADS and DRM
    ADS and DRM for a free service?. hell yeah! but not for a subscription based/ppv/not for free service.
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    magallanes
    30th Dec 2008
  • Whadda ya mean "has become crap"?
    >> the TV content has become crap.

    Same as it ever was....
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    Duke E. Love
    7th Jan 2009
  • RE: High hopes at Yahoo, Intel for Internet-enabled TV
    Sounds good. Maybe they will be able to make a 100% free
    TV service with all of the channels, because of the widget ads
    supporting more revenue for the service provider. [:
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    W1LL-B1LL
    29th Dec 2008
  • Right idea, wrong implementation. YHOO == FAIL
    could be interesting if intel switches to a moonlight based implementation
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    Johnny Vegas
    29th Dec 2008
  • Two TV killers: DRM and Ad overload
    The main reason internet TV has never taken off is the byzantine DRM restrictions and battles. Add to that the format wars, and nothing is compatible with anything else. Even with our supposedly finalized HDTV and HDCP specifications, incompatibilities are still being found, not to mention the almost ten year delay in rollout.

    Add to that ... ads. Not just full-screen commercials, but ads that fly in, occupy 40% of the screen during the program itself, and that constantly move, jiggle, flash, or otherwise distract from the show you are trying to watch. Even on premium pay channels and now even pay-per-view, the intrusion of advertising material is increasing. As the public learned to avoid ad breaks (fast-forwarding, channel surfing, and just leaving the TV during ads) now the companies simply place the ads on the screen during the program no matter how disrupting it is to the show and the viewer experience.

    Some years back, the media cartel was astounded at the acceptance of television series released on DVD. They couldn't understand why the public would pay to see TV shows that were already being shown for free and repeatedly in syndication. The public feedback was loud and clear: we like control and we don't like advertising and annoying interruptions. We are willing to pay money not to be insulted with advertising.

    So, this form of internet TV will die yet again, because Intel and Yahoo overlooked what the consumer wants: choice, control, and an immersive viewer experience. As far as having a PC on my TV, I've had that for almost 5 years. my current one is a recycled laptop that sits in my equipment rack, plugged into the VGA port of my 52" Vizio HDTV. With Wifi and a nifty wireless keyboard/touchpad combo, it allows me to surf the Web whenever I want while sitting in front of the TV. I use it to look up credits on IMDB, show schedules and other miscellanea. It didn't take any special technology, new standards, or programming.

    Best of luck Intel, now Viiv will have something to keep it company on the shelf ...
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    terry flores
    29th Dec 2008
  • but ...
    there are other kind of people that want to see "stuffs" for free, and ads/drm we don't really care if its for free.

    Several people wear a sponsored t-shirt not because they want or care about such product but because is a free t-shirt, free is a magic word.
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    magallanes
    30th Dec 2008
  • free?
    Some people will even pay to wear a sponsored T-shirt. See Nike, Reebok, Harley Davidson, etc.
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    EMonkIA
    30th Dec 2008
  • here the analogue for T-shirts ...
    Imagine if your "free" t-shirt was only 60% of the size of a normal one. Or it only had one arm-hole instead of two. Or it was made of scratchy material that gave one a constant itch while wearing it.

    That's what is happening with modern ads on TV, they are impinging on the program content to the extent of making it unwatchable or unusable. I was watching an episode of Home Improvement not long ago, and the main character was involved in doing a physical gag with his hands at the lower edge of the screen. Just as the gag was supposed to complete, the channel operator slid in a promo banner at the bottom of the screen, obscuring the outcome of the gag. Other channels have taken to putting animated logos up during the entire showing of the program, a constant distraction from the program itself.

    It will just get worse with "interactive TV" that only benefits the advertiser, not the user. Wait till they begin adopting Web ad techniques like the pop-over windows that must be actively acknowledged or dismissed. Now TV will be truly interactive, as you constantly wield the remote to banish the ads just so that you can continue to watch the program. What an advancement that will be.
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    terry flores
    1st Jan 2009
  • "truly interactive"
    > Now TV will be truly interactive, as you constantly
    > wield the remote to banish the ads just so that you can
    > continue to watch the program.
    >

    ... so they will need to add a first person shooter interface to Yahoo TV. That should enable television to recover a little bit of market share from gaming consoles.
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    kj_german@...
    5th Jan 2009
  • RE: High hopes at Yahoo, Intel for Internet-enabled TV
    Why is it that the FIRST Thing that came into my mind...Was the "CUECAT"
    For those of you lucky enough to not be deluged by these things in your mail(second only to AOL disks)

    "The CueCat concept was a commercial failure. It also received the dubious distinction as one of "The 25 Worst Tech Products of All Time" according to PCWorld Magazine. Some believe that failure was because of implementation stumbles that alienated early adopters, but others say the device was ultimately of little use. Wrote Jeff Salkowski of the Chicago Tribune, "You have to wonder about a business plan based on the notion that people want to interact with a soda can," while Debbie Barham of the Evening Standard quipped that the CueCat "fails to solve a problem which never existed."

    And it wasn't just BarCodes that it interacted with...if you were watching TV and a Commercial or News Story came on your TV would emit a "tone" that only "CueCat" could "hear"...and CueCat would open up a web page (automatically...You could not stop it..you could only close your browser) "To give you MORE INFO relative to the Commercial"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CueCat
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    ashcrest
    6th Jan 2009

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