For shame - Not all of us out here have the $$ to shell out for a new
machine every 2-3 yrs. I'm keeping my ppc G4/450 until it can't be
repaired anymore.
Next Firefox to drop Mac OS X 10.4 support
Summary
Mozilla has officially decided that the next major version of Firefox will require at least Mac OS X 10.5 when running on Apple computers.
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Mozilla has officially decided that the next major version of Firefox will require at least Mac OS X 10.5 when running on Apple computers.
"We believe a Mac OS X 10.5 minimum will allow us to provide the best experience possible to our users," Mozilla Mac programmer Josh Aas said on Tuesday in a mailing list announcement.
Firefox is built on a browser engine called Gecko, and the upcoming version 1.9.3 will have technology for Mac OS X 10.4 and before removed, Aas said.
The recently released Firefox 3.6 works on Mac OS X 10.4, aka Tiger. Mozilla will support it for some months after the browser's replacement version is issued, which means 10.4 support should continue into 2011.
For more on this story, read Next Firefox to drop Mac OS X 10.4 support on CNET News.
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Starman3525th Feb 2010 -
MAC vs Windows PC replacement cycles
Amen, funny how some people think that Mac's are like Windows boxes and should be replaced around the same cycle as they. Mac's last a lot longer and still work just as good as the day they were built. If FF wont support OSX 10.4 in the future then use the last build or move to a different Browswer like Flock. I enjoy flock on my ibook G3 and OSX 10.4.11.
djzoey25th Feb 2010 -
Macs break just as fast as PCs
and are outdated just as fast.
Maybe the problem is that since theres no where near as much Mac software as there is other OS's, people are stuck with them.
Apples make OK web and email machines, but not much more.
Ron Bergundy25th Feb 2010 -
Hardly!!!
I've worked on numerous Macs that have not broke as fast as a Windows box. I think your knowledge of Macs might be out dated. And there is a ton of apps for Mac and its not that were stuck is that Macs work like a computer should work not like Windows. I can turn on my Macs and do productive work unlike Windows.
Linux man, your bias is showing, LOL. That's ok too. I like Linux too, I can do different OS's. I just prefer Mac to most others.
FYI, Mac do a lot of graphics and publishing that you probably watch on TV and Movies and read that you seem to un-aware of.djzoey25th Feb 2010 -
I have to respectfully disagree
at least in one case - I bought an HP Pavilion laptop about 3 years ago and it is still going strong and I have not had to have it serviced ever. By comparison a friend of mine purchased a Macbook about 3 weeks after I purchased my HP and it has been seen by the Apple Geniuses so many times they call her by her first name. I admit I was pretty shocked at that... but I guess there can be one bad Apple in every bunch - pun unintended. As for my HP laptop and my 4 year old Dell XPS desktop I plan on running those until I have no choice but to get new ones... and so far they are showing no signs of needing replacement.
Pete "athynz" Athens25th Feb 2010 -
Anecdotal evidence proves nothing
Various consumer reports have shown Apple computers to have higher
overall customer satisfaction and fewer hardware issues than
competitors.
A large part of that is because Apple does not cater to the bargain
basement market.
frgough25th Feb 2010 -
Agreed
I just hope that they don't cater to China's bargain basement quality on Mfg.
I had a G4 Digital Audio tower, Dual CPU 400Mhz with a 1Gb memory that was build circa 97-98, i think, and was using it full time OS 8-9 and OSX 10-10.4 and enjoyed that darn PC till the day I got laid off in 05 and it ran better than the new G5 we got in. LOL. I was given a Windows box to do my admin stuff on. I gave it up and did all my work on that G4. I sure miss that G4.djzoey25th Feb 2010 -
Are you truely that naive?
Or just trying to push buttons?
GoPower25th Feb 2010 -
Build a Mac?
Have you ever built a Mac? Oh that's right you can't,
something about Stevo and an anal obsession about
proprietary and control.
I haven't bought an off the shelf box in over 20 years. Nor
have I had a non recoverable failure in over 20 years,
because redundancy is something that should be built in.
(not by the OEMs)
Just buy your preferred components, put them together
and there you go. No mystery about what's inside, and
even research which HDDs have the best MTBF and only
buy those. A PC is only as good as it's WORST
component, and most PC failures are are somehow
related to the HDD. And the most valuable asset (your
files) are on the HDD.
bigpicture25th Feb 2010 -
Why, yes, I have
Why is it that people seem to think they are some kind of tech wizard
because they piece together their own PC? It is NOT a major
accomplishment. A ten year old can do it.
But that said, to answer your trolling query, if you define a mac by the
OS it runs, then yes, I have built a number of macs. But what is your
point? Do you even have one, other than trying to be snide?
Your nonrecoverable failure argument is totally irrelevant, seeing as
how it is based on backup procedures, and is thus OS-agnostic. That
said, I suspect that the average user finds Time Machine a much more
simple and reliable solution than shadow copy and the various
Windows alternatives.
There is no mystery inside my Macs, any of them. I have disassembled
numerous iBooks down to the board logic, and pieced numbers of
defective machines into a number of fully-functional laptops. I have
also done board level repairs of surface mounted components (e.g. the
iBook graphics chip issue.) I suspect that this is far more difficult than
shoving an ATX mobo into a case with some blue neon and thinking I
am a tech.
No one is claiming that macs are free of hardware defects. Certainly
the above mentioned iBook issue shows that, but as mentioned by
others, the data are QUITE clear. Apple hardware is FAR more reliable,
on average than hardware from other companies, has lower MTBFs,
and has a MUCH higher resale value after one finally decides to part
with their machines.
DeusExMachina26th Feb 2010 -
What are power PC Mac's going to do?
Looks as though the Power PC Mac's are going to have a harder time keeping up with technology even more now that they cannot run Snow Leopard and 10.4 will not be supported by Firefox. I agree that Mac's never used to break as frequently but now that their built in China along with the same hardware as everyone else I have noticed more issues too. In fact I had some many MacBook failures I quit buying Apple laptops.
jscott41825th Feb 2010 -
China Made
I agree, Macs haven't had the same long lasting rate since Apple has gone to China for Mfrg. Same goes for a lot of other products we buy. I wish U.S. companies would stop Mfg there and bring back our jobs. All part of why things we buy are good anymore. Mac used to be great and still are, just need to bring it back home.djzoey25th Feb 2010 -
OS X 10.5 (Leopard) Will Run On Power PC Macs.
Power PC Macs can run OS X 10.5, so they will still be able to run the latest-n-greatest Firefox by upgrading to that. For a little while longer, anyway, since it's only a matter of time before the cut-off is bumped to 10.6, making Firefox unusable on Power PC's.
And, before anyone says it, as a Power PC Mac user running 10.4 who has seen no compelling reason to upgrade, I don't like this forced march nonsense, either. I'll probably be sticking to Firefox 3.6 when this happens. They do seem to be pretty good about supporting the older ("legacy") versions of Firefox, after all.
Whyaylooh25th Feb 2010 -
Truth
I've been a PC lover... recently purchased an apple producuct and .... theragic and old is apple. I loath the spinning wheel that tells you it's loading (and then crashes). Microsoft is a modern operating system.... not built on something from the 60's (unix). Spin what you will but apple is pathetic.
merrill.nuttall@...25th Feb 2010 -
Modern huh?
I guess since you are a PC lover that you'd know that Windows isn't that modern and it's build on DOS (80s) and still uses it, and is a glorified menuing system, short cuts to what? Places on the HD. Ya, Vista is a modern OS, good for? LOL, At least 7 cleaned that mess up some. And it's very obvious that you don't know what your talking about or even used a Mac. But that's ok, everyone has there opinion. Mac will be around long after Windows.djzoey26th Feb 2010
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