Open_Source powers the ENTIRE Internet with
routers/switches/servers you name it like
Microsoft sitting behind caching Linux distro
name servers.
Now you tell me what does it need now???
It is the FUTURE of smart devices, appliance
driven infrastructure, just like VMware
using a Linux derived kernel and it is #1
in Virtualization, the MS empire is built
around the desktop nothing more/nothing_less.
End users will use Linux distro devices/appliances
in the future, they will not need 10G operating
systems and anti-virus/spyware/malware/trojan
and worm protection since this is an aging
lethargic way of doing things.
Smart phones are running Linux distro's and
they are taking over, it does not take long
to see the impact, technology prospers with
open_source and Open_Standards where
developers develop code because they WANT
to not because it is a mega-corp job.
Open source needs successful champions
Summary
The open-source industry needs profitable champions to demonstrate success and attract funding and participation in open source, according to Red Hat's CEO.
Topics
The open-source industry needs profitable champions to demonstrate success and attract funding and participation in open source, according to the chief executive of Red Hat.
In an interview with ZDNet Asia on Wednesday, Jim Whitehurst said revenue models of open-source proponents, such as Red Hat itself and Google, have brought success to the respective companies and allowed them to contribute back to the open-source community. Google relies on ad-based revenue, while Red Hat's runs on a subscription model.
Whitehurst acknowledged that the bulk of Google's revenues are not generated through open-source software, but noted that success from companies active in open source in is still beneficial to the industry.
For more, read Open source needs successful champions on ZDNet Asia.
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use_linux5th Nov 2009 -
Technology also prospers...
with proprietary solutions. In fact, technology has been driven by proprietary solutions and then someone figures out they can port Linux to run on the device. This is the only way Linux ever gets a foothold on any devices.
Linux will remain a niche OS forever. And it is never used by any player without some type of proprietary additions. Even the biggest open source proponents develop their own proprietary software to use in conjunction with open source.
Open source is nothing more than an alternate solution to proprietary that will have some type of proprietary software added to it to make it serve it purpose. There are no pure open source solutions out there.
bjbrock5th Nov 2009 -
'Niche OS'???
I guess you are living in a closet, because Linux
distro's are not a 'niche' in case you missed
out several countries ditched MS and really
MS has the stranglehold on the USA not the
world...
There is no need for a 10G OPERATING System
when an appliance or device can do the function
SECURELY without having 10,000 exploits
like Windows.
Point being open_source drive infrastructure
is the future, proprietary lethargic HUGE
operating systems will become a thing of the
past.
Like VMware it has cut inroads into the
server market and guess what it is based
of a Linux kernel...
You can hold on to old 'point & click' skills
they will get you no where.use_linux5th Nov 2009 -
The naming system, that you use at the root of the Internet is Open Source.
For decades now, the root name servers on the Internet have been largely powered by ISC BIND (created by Paul Vixie ), which is free/Open Source software provided by Internet Software Consortium. (As a note, changes are happening with DNS that may have some effect on this but not at the root level)
Linux was driven originally by a students (Linus Torvalds) need for an affordable Unix like OS. That it has become popular (as opposed to the BSD variations) has been something of an anomaly.
B.O.F.H.5th Nov 2009 -
YES the Internet is Linux distro powered
I guess 'Google' is a 'niche' as well as the
other Corporations that sell devices/appliances
that are Linux derived.
You cannot argue with die_hard Microsofties
they will deny the truth until they MS
empire collapses under its own weight.
The only thing holding up the weight of MS is
the desktop and it is eroding, a lot of countries
have ditched Windows.
Look at China, they use Red Flag Linux, Russia uses
Alt-Linux and the list goes on and on.
The days of MS 'point & click' on spending $$$
use_linux5th Nov 2009 -
I don't get it
I understand people using proprietary software. I understand companies defending it to make a quick buck. I don't understand individuals promoting it. Maybe ignorance?
"Proprietary knowledge" slows the advancements. Math, chemistry, engineering, physics, etc. all of them have been public domain for a long time. When they were guarded secrets of the powerful, they also advanced but not at the same speed and not for the benefit of the many.
Proprietary may be responsible for short term gains, but real long term advancement comes mostly from knowledge openness.
Openness benefits us all, proprietary benefits the few. Is that difficult to understand?
rarsa6th Nov 2009 -
You can sell hardware though
"Open_Source powers the ENTIRE Internet with
routers/switches/servers you name it like
Microsoft sitting behind caching Linux distro
name servers."
Well, in those cases the customer is paying for
the hardware. The software costs are easy to
absorb because the software is extremely
minimalist.
You can't say the same about consumer devices
with pretty UIs and lots of application. It's
the total opposite end, with very heavy
software. It costs a lot of time to build
software for a PC or smart phone compared to a
router.
"End users will use Linux distro
devices/appliances in the future"
OSS advocates have been saying that for what,
10 years?
"they will not need 10G operating
systems and anti-virus/spyware/malware/trojan
and worm protection since this is an aging
lethargic way of doing things."
10G? What is that, a cellular network?
At least try to get your tech terms right.
And if you think bad guys will go away just
because you switch the OS - you're sorely
mistaken.
"Smart phones are running Linux distro's and
they are taking over"
You mean like RIM and Apple? Oh, snap.
Nevermind.
"taking over" is not happening anywhere.
"where developers develop code because they
WANT to not because it is a mega-corp job."
Yes, we all dream of being poor and asking for
money in the streets.
Dream on. Because a dream is all it's going to
be.
CobraA15th Nov 2009 -
Really?
Did you check on stock prices lately? Did you check which
company lost revenue for the last 4 quarters? Did you
check which company laid off 6,000 workers?
It was the big proprietary software one that went negative
by about 15% revenue and workers. It was the big open
source ones that are still going positive even in this market.
Especially in this market. If you have the right business
model and products you make money, with the wrong
business model and products bye-bye dinosaur.
bigpicture5th Nov 2009 -
I thought it was all free
"The open-source industry needs profitable champions to
demonstrate success and attract funding . . ."
Funding? I thought everything was free, what do they need
funding for?
Perhaps the idea of paying for software wasn't such a bad
one after all.CobraA15th Nov 2009 -
OK It's ignorance
I'm sorry for the confusion.
Free in "Free software" refers to Freedom, not price.
Here are my two cents:
http://rarsa.blogspot.com/2009/01/open-source-and-capitalism-some-people.html
I advise you to read my previous comment on this same thread.
Additionally, being Free also makes it free. Companies make money from the services they provide.rarsa6th Nov 2009 -
In other words, Red Hat feels that
the open source community needs Red Hat as their leader.
GuidingLight5th Nov 2009 -
It needs commercial success
What Linux does not have is commercial success. I think
the Linux based cell phones are a perfect way to do this.
Google and brands like Motorola with providers like
Verizon will go a long way to excel the open source
projects. Yet, the PC has still eluded the Linux community.
I think mostly because Windows and even now to some
extent Apple's Mac PC have become staples for the PC
community and their just is not room for another. Even
Apple had a hard time until just a few years ago when XP
was growing old and Apple switch to the Intel CPU's
provided a way to run Windows as a secondary OS. That
put Apple in the drivers seat. It also helped to have the
iPods and iTunes. But lets face it. iTunes still runs on PC
way more then on a Mac. PC's no matter what Apple says
about them. They control the computer world. Linux is
much better off working into these niche markets.
jscott4185th Nov 2009 -
Open source is a commercial success
Open source is a commercial success as a community, i.e. for every single user in the community.
But some pseudo-open source projects think that the idea is to exploit free zealots, then rebuild this project and sell it as a close source solution.
magallanes5th Nov 2009 -
RE: Open source needs successful champions
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