Oracle giving EU a hard time over Sun buy

Oracle giving EU a hard time over Sun buy

Summary: Oracle is taking a hard line in dealing with EU objections to its planned acquisition of Sun, according to a Financial Times report on Tuesday.

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Oracle is taking a hard line in dealing with EU objections to its planned acquisition of Sun, according to a Financial Times report on Tuesday.

EU antitrust regulators are concerned that Oracle, which has a large business in proprietary software, will not be a good home for Sun's open-source MySQL database business. According to the report, Oracle is unyielding, offering no concessions to deal with the European Commission's concerns.

That stance could lead the regulators to issue a formal complaint objecting to the deal, and that move could occur within days, according unnamed sources in the story. Neither the EU or Oracle commented for the story.

For more, read "Oracle not yielding to EU with Sun buy, says report" on CNET News.

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  • Oh my, must not up set the crazy EU.

    Pfttt....
    No_Ax_to_Grind
    • Oracle has spines

      This is how you deal w/ evil socialists. If only every other US corp could follow the same route.
      LBiege
  • A small question

    why EU can stop or affect a deal inside usa ..... or is the deal is global ....

    Also we EU dont fork MYSQL into something purely EU ... and tell Oracle to go to hell. If the main concern is MYSQL ...Under GLP they can fork it ....


    Also EU should no be able to affect stuff in a other sovereign country ( i know if its good for one its good for the other )

    Quebec-french
    • Because Oracle does business in the E.U.

      With globalization, companies are bound by the laws of the jurisdictions in which they operate. The EU has taken the lead in anti-competitive investigations since the US abandoned that role during W's administration.
      bearded-grey
  • EU should focus on M$ and Inhel...

    They are the vilans, nor Oracle and Sun.
    Linux Geek
    • I almost had to

      clean my monitor after reading that one. I really shouldn't drink coffee while reading your posts.
      Erroneous
      • LOL - The name says it all - LOL I thought that was

        funny too, then saw who posted, and "it" was serious.
        TheBottomLineIsAllThatMatters
    • LOL, EU is the villan - yes you are correct Boo Hoo "save us"...rubbish nt

      nt
      TheBottomLineIsAllThatMatters
    • Great...

      Who let this crazed extremist member of the cult of Stallman out of "l'asile du pingouin" aggain?

      PS: The only compagny that EU wont toutch is EU compagnies and Apple, the rest including compagnies that deals in FLOSS are freegame.
      Ceridan
    • they already have...

      they gave $1B to IBM for the Windows vs. OS/2 actions... and they gave Sun $1B for the MS office vs. Open Office. They fined Intel $1.45 B for anti-trust.... this year...

      They are treating Oracle the same way... keeping them from being monopolistic.

      and FYI... they are currently investigating IBM on mainframes, too...
      scotth_z
  • Great someone has the guts to stand up to the

    EU. They are the definition of a joke.
    TheBottomLineIsAllThatMatters
    • The EU a joke?

      I don't think so. It's been an extremely successful 'project' so far. By now it has a bigger GDP and a bigger population than the USA GDP and population. And they will grow even further - by including the remaining eastern European states, and possibly even Turkey. I'd say Europe is doing quite well.

      The financial crisis was a USA thing btw. loan loan loan loan loan ....--> crash.
      CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963
      • So we don't need to send EU aid then?

        And they can defend themselves and we no longer need to support their lazy a**s? Excellent!
        No_Ax_to_Grind
        • Foolish Noaxe...

          Go back to your Vista.
          CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963
          • 1-800-Waaaaaaaa They can help with that stinging backside.

            Because you have been spanked!
            No_Ax_to_Grind
          • Actually no, NoAxe.

            It's called being the wiser party. Sometimes the best thing to do is not to discuss things with fools.

            Like... in this case :)
            CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963
  • A matter of copyright

    Open source doesn't mean open range - Sun owns the copyright for _all_ of its OSS products:
    - OpenOffice
    - MySQL
    - Java
    Meaning that there is NO WAY one can get MySQL's code, branch it, and distribute it under anything else than GPLv2 or later.

    Which is very bad for MySQL, since a lot of the development was found from a proprietary version of that code base sold to clients with a support contract. Moreover, MySQL can use binary database engines that can be distributed and used along with the proprietary version, but that the GPLv2+ explicitly prevents linking against - as such, if Oracle takes ownership of MySQL, these proprietary branches are effectively closed, people can't get them any more, they need to buy Oracle's product instead, and they no longer have the option of reverting back to the Free software version.

    Effectively locking down the market.

    One of the things Oracle could do, would be create a foundation, give stewardship for these projects' copyrights to this foundation, and be done with it. But they won't, since one of their goals in buying Sun off, is squash down one of their main competitors.

    Thus the investigation. That it didn't take place in the US is disgraceful, in fact.
    Mitch 74
    • It is disgraceful...

      The US has been notoriously bad about dealing properly with anti-trust and monopolistic business practices because it allowed lobbyists to have as much if not more say than the constituents the congressmen supposedly represent in determining law. It is how the credit card companies managed to get time to raise their rates before being capped in February and how insurance companies have held up health care reform. I am American and I am equally ashamed.
      Socratesfoot
    • Comparison

      Isn't MySQL in Oracle's case comparable to Eclipse in IBM's case. Couldn't Oracle just release MySQL very much like IBM did with Eclipse?
      Eleutherios
  • Global power structures are changing.

    The EU will only become a stronger competitor to the US as time goes on. That's a reality. Because of Globilization they have the ability to dictate to companies that want to have access to their markets. The UE killed a merger deal that GE was working on. It seemed like a done deal but the EO killed it. The CEO waid he did everything that the US regulators asked him to do, why was that no OK? The EU responsed that they see antitrust diffently and the size and reach of GE they felt would choke out competition. There biggest issue with GE was sheer size. The US isn't concerned with Mega-corporations, but the Europeans don't like it. So in the case of the GE, even though both companies were United States based, the deal died because the CEO of GE knew that if he couldn't access the European Markets (which is significant), there was no point. And that is why this is an issue for Oracle, and this is likely the face of things to come.
    gtaylor2