Red Hat: Microsoft taking cloud back to the 80s
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Speaking at the Red Hat Summit in Chicago on Wednesday, Red Hat president of products and technologies, Paul Cormier, said vendors such as Microsoft were attempting to take customers "back to the '80s" with their cloud computing strategies. Microsoft, meanwhile, has told ZDNet UK that it is making "great progress" in supporting multiple vendors in the cloud.
"A lot of vendors are trying to gain back the lock-in of the '80s, especially in messaging and grid [technologies]," said Cormier. "Many customers are using proprietary technology to build out private clouds, which is a problem in the making. With our friend in Redmond, get sucked into this if you dare."
Cormier claimed that with the Windows Azure Platform, Microsoft's cloud services platform, customers were limited by lack of completely interoperable services.
"On this stack [Azure], you don't have a lot of wiggle room," said Cormier. "Microsoft is saying, 'You have to trust us, we'll go down this voyage together', but they are not there yet [in terms of interop]."
Cormier told ZDNet UK on Wednesday that Microsoft was not yet fully interoperable with Linux implementations, including Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL).
"We don't know whether Microsoft will bring Azure into RHEL," said Cormier. "As [Linux] is closed out of the stack, this is an opportunity for lock-in."
Cormier added that virtualization vendor VMware was also attempting to lock customers into using its software, and that there were "a lot of black holes in VMware systems" in a criticism of VMware interoperability with RHEL.
Microsoft told ZDNet UK on Wednesday that both the company and the technology industry as a whole are in the process of working out cloud interoperability issues. It added that Azure supports multiple protocols.
"We recognize our customers are working with mixed IT environments, so we've intensified our interoperability efforts across the company. This is exemplified in our open approach to cloud computing," said Vijay Rajagopalan, principal architect on the Microsoft interoperability strategy team. "While our industry is still in the early stages of collaborating on cloud interoperability issues, we've made great progress with our products and standards support. For example, the Windows Azure platform supports a host of Microsoft and non-Microsoft languages, open protocols and technologies."
Rajagopalan said the Windows Azure Platform supports standards and protocols including SOAP, REST and XML, and that developers can use programming frameworks including .Net and PHP. He added that Microsoft is working with the open source community by funding software development kits (SDK) in Java, PHP and Ruby for the Azure Services Platform.
In future, Microsoft plans to fund SDK development for other languages and tools, including Eclipse frameworks and service dashboards, and web services such as Open ID, Rajagopalan said.
VMware had not responded to a request for comment at the time of writing.
This article was originally posted on ZDNet UK.
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Red Hat: Microsoft taking cloud back to the 80s
Red Hat should feel right at home then because using their software is like using something out of the 80's. I'll prefer a modern company like Microsoft instead of a company based on 30 year old technology such as Red Hat. My theory is that Red Hat is jealous that Microsoft might succeed where linux couldn't, which is pretty much everywhere.
Loverock Davidson3rd Sep 2009 -
ok lovey put down the crack pipe
Its so cool to hear you make you little assumption what do you think tech use to make search in a broken Windows file .....witrh .dll corrupted by sp3
LInux or unix make a nice grep fine the corrupt dll identified it replace it a off you go ....MS cannot even repair there own shiit ....
So before claiming some 30 years old stuuff and wack assumption please LEARN a thing or two
PS http://www.plop.at/en/ploplinux.html its a good place to learn
Quebec-french3rd Sep 2009 -
He's knows 30-year old tech
Since Windoze is just a DOS-extender.
I have a laptop dual boot with Vista and Fedora 10, Vista can't even play a movie without skipping and stalling all over the place, whereas Fedora plays it solid.
That old DOS-extender just can't keep up.
nemesis93rd Sep 2009 -
Lovie=amateur which in turn equals troll
Please don't feed the troll.
todbran@...3rd Sep 2009 -
Wrong
Many amateurs show reasonableness and a willingness to learn new ideas or at least acknowledge that there are alternatives out there even if they do not want to try them.
Troll. Okay I have heard rumors he has an affinity for bridges and tormenting little goats so you have me there.
Viva la crank dodo4th Sep 2009 -
Microsoft is destroying the Capitalist West ...
A pre-requisite is that free markets need competitive environments to operate.
"we've made great progress with our products"
By whose judgement? Microsoft's own (of course) and, at the very most, naive "techies" who are unable to think nor learn beyond what a big brand name tells them. No innovation there. Caution : Knowledge economy ahead ...
"and standards support"
Blatant Microsoft lies. OOXML for one ... many, many, many more examples of course .... thanks for futurising the LSE with "performance" and great "TCO" Microsoft
The REAL DANGER is the continued and ongoing bullsiht coming from Redmond, allied to the apathy of consumers who should be fighting tooth and nail for their rights, but instead, because they are dumbed down to the point that they think Windows IS a computer/PC they have no real incentive or opportunity to educate themselves, and are duped into feeding the monster which is keeping everybody stupid through the illegal and anti-competitive pre-install arrangements with OEM's.
Microsoft is killing the West's future. The current "credit crunch" is nothing more than the snake eating its own fat tail, fat that Joe Sixpack gave and paid for through the process of being positively de-educated.
I really take my hat off to Russia for introducing FOSS to teachers and education. That's forward thinking. Forward thinking that the West is completely and utterly incapable of.
fr0thy28th Sep 2009 -
Re: Microsoft is destroying the Capitalist West
that explains it all, taking lessons of Capitalism from Russia. Capitalism is about consumer's freedom to choose what they want. They can take FOSS or proprietary as they choose and not some govt. decree choosing for them. Monopolies end when consumers want them to end, so stop treating your prospective clients as blind or idiot.
st1ng11th Sep 2009 -
"Cry, baby, cry!!"
RedHat's new mojo.
LBiege3rd Sep 2009 -
Its all they can do
Them and the rest of the linux fanboys, cry cry cry. Heaven forbid some other company like Microsoft try to take the lead in technology.Loverock Davidson3rd Sep 2009 -
wow and i tought i was the one who drink too much
put down the moonshineQuebec-french3rd Sep 2009 -
It took them 8 years to fix a devastating Linux exploit
... despite the promise of "MANY (cough, cough, BLIND) EYES". No wonder people run away from them into the cloud.LBiege3rd Sep 2009 -
sauce
http://www.betanews.com/article/No-Fix-for-Critical-Windows-98-Me-Flaw/1149873723
It took until 2005 to fix this flaw for Windows 2000 according to another article and there is no articles indicating there has ever been a fix for the 98 and ME systems.
SOmething to keep in mind is that every security patch windows puts out (linux as well), the vulnerability (whether published or not) exists since the Windows version came out or it was introduced by MS own patch codes which indicates, if you feel you must bash the competitor, that Windows proprietary concept is no better for security that the open source model.
This one still affects windows 2000 until recently: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/06/microsoft_warns_of_attacks_on_2.html
Of course, from your own limited standpoint, only a biased person would not agree with your biased viewpoint.Viva la crank dodo3rd Sep 2009 -
RE: Loverock Davidson
Yes "the Linux Company" is so envious of Microsoft (please note the sarcasm - and please stop being either a) ignorant b) arrogant c) trolling)
homeblend3rd Sep 2009 -
That would be the pre Loverock Davidson time, right?
As in, before you were born! All you know is stuff that they had in what.. from the late 1980s to early 1990's... probably you first used a computer some time in the late 1990's (grade school, probably), so anything from the 1980's physically predates your physical existence.
B.O.F.H.3rd Sep 2009 -
Kerberos
In the 80's, there was a significant advance in security called Kerberos. It
was used in MIT's Athena network, which has features that your beloved
Microsoft has yet to implement as cleanly.
Kerberos was developed at public institutions at public expense.
Microsoft found a way to piss in the public well and sell drinking water.
They purposely altered the Kerberos implementation in Windows so that
a mixed network had to use a Windows authentication server.
So succeed anywhere seems to mean destroy the commons and sell what
you just destroyed.
shis-ka-bob3rd Sep 2009
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