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Windows 95 wiped out last PC competition

Victoria Ho ZDNet Asia | October 21, 2009 4:57 AM PDT

Summary

Windows 95 marked the last time Microsoft faced any "serious competition" in the PC operating system market, an analysts recalls, as the software vendor gets ready to launch its much-anticipated Windows 7.
Windows 95 marked the last time Microsoft faced any "serious competition" in the PC operating system market, an analysts recalls, as the software vendor gets ready to launch its much-anticipated Windows 7 tomorrow.

Martin Gilliland, vice president of go to market strategies at Frost & Sullivan, said Windows 3.0's focus on offering a user-friendly interface brought Microsoft founder Bill Gates' vision of a "PC on every desk" closer to reality. But, mass adoption was seen only from Windows 95, which ended up winning the PC OS battle against IBM's OS2, Gilliland said in an e-mail interview with ZDNet Asia.

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"Windows 95 was the real boon for Microsoft. With it, we saw mass adoption of PCs in businesses and started to see more and more [of the platform] in the home," said the analyst. He noted, however, that its triumph over OS2 was mostly due to Microsoft's marketing and sales clout.

"The one big difference between Microsoft and Apple is that Microsoft allows Windows to be installed on any device with a license, [while] Mac OS can only be loaded and run on an Apple device," he said.

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  • Installed only on IBM
    At least, isn't that what wiped out OS/2?

    OS/2 was a great OS, but everyone heard about Windows through marketing and away the lemmings go.

    The interesting twist is that Apple's limited hardware base is still getting them more customers. Apple is starting to show up as the first serious contender in more than 15 years.

    IBM is pushing more and more with Linux. I remember not long ago when I couldn't buy a server without Windows without some troubles. Now IBM doesn't try to include the OS by default.
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    nucrash
    21st Oct 2009
  • actually no
    OS/2 could be installed on basically any PC at the
    time. It was touted as something much better than
    Windows. If I remember correctly, the license
    fees were somewhat higher and it didn't have as
    many programs written for it like Windows much
    like OSX and it was somewhat more complicated to
    install for the average home user much like Linux.
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    nothingness
    21st Oct 2009
  • I ran os/2 ver. 2.2 for a short time
    It was on a homebuilt clone so no, you didn't need IBM hardware, IIRC.

    Never found drivers for my CD ROM drive - end of experiment

    Os/2 did true multi-tasking as I recall, well before Windows did
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    eggmanbubbagee@...
    21st Oct 2009
  • Yup
    I had OS/2 Warp 4 on a home-built PC as well.
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    WarhavenSC
    21st Oct 2009
  • OS/2 Warp
    Warp was the first version I ran. The biggest issue was as a proper
    protected mode OS, it needed a 486 CPU and quite a lot of RAM for
    the time. I can't remember the exact figure now, but My desktop was
    OK for most things, and ran Windows 3.1 and DOS OK, and GEOS, but I
    used OS2 for a short time while I was working on assembly language
    programming at tech - Software Engineering. In a protected mode
    window if your app crashed it was trivial to go back and edit code,
    look for the bug and try again without the whole machine hanging.
    You could also boot other OS's in text mode windows - so I also
    played with CPM and DR DOS for a while.

    What killed it was networking. OS/2 still didnt really have native
    networking. You could use LanManager and OS2 Warp came with this,
    but it was simple NetBUI stuff, that MS would refine with Windows 95
    and 97.
    Also most of the good apps were the Win32 based ones, as MS
    marketing machine was in full swing. If you were goign to code an
    app, then using Win32 meant you could run it on OS/2 or the new
    NT3.5 coming out from MS. Then MS pulled Win32 out from under
    OS/2, leaving it high and dry with very few native OS/2 desktop apps.
    It was still a good server, but pretty clunky on the desktop.
    ABout that time I started down the Novell path, and using Windows
    client with Netware. Then IP became the next big thing, and IPX and
    NetBUI went the way of the dinosaur. That was the last I saw of OS/2
    for many years.
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    chromeronin
    22nd Oct 2009
  • Resonable summary
    OS/2 was technically far superior as an OS, but IBM just didn't understand PCs. If they had matched the price of Windows for both consumers and OEMs, it would still be around today as a serious competitor.

    But when Windows 95 was released, it was the bad old days of "if you don't install Windows on every PC, you don't get the cheap price". So IBM relented and offered Windows 95 as standard on all their PCs. OS/2 was an added cost (and was a lot more expensive than Windows) so it was left to die, now IBM have left the PC market completely.

    DEC was another competitor that shot itself in the foot. They had a 64bit PC and OS before the consumer version of Windows was even a real OS, before it was even properly 32 bit. And they had a PC that could run Windows apps in emulation faster than anything Intel had to run them natively.

    Yet DEC died too - great technology, disastrous marketing.

    One last point: back in the early 90's, IBM was facing numerous anti-trust suits and was seen as the giant of IT. MS was still a minnow, so their taking on IBM was like David and Goliath, with everyone hoping MS would take IBM down a peg or two. Until they realised they swapped one abusive monopolist for another.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Fred Fredrickson
    21st Oct 2009
  • Server?
    You said:
    "I remember not long ago when I couldn't buy a server without Windows without some troubles."

    Did you mean PC/laptop? Servers typically don't come with an O/S.

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    Salonikios
    21st Oct 2009
  • maybe ibm is pushing linux but not enough
    Until we see a IBM-linux or a sponsored ibm
    linux or better OS/3 vengence base on linux or
    BSD full compatible with most foss program ....
    Windows will keep on bulling its self on the
    business side .

    Because remember we are getting in a nice OS
    period here .

    Oracle /Sun Solaris - Open Solaris is quite
    something if oracle push it for real

    windows 7 sadly nothing more that pimp-out
    vista with all its problem and trouble that
    come with windows

    Mac os x well ist mac os like it or hate it
    .... they are taking more and more part of the
    deal

    Ibm may go more and more on linux is they put them self really at it


    Google and chrome os could become a major
    player very quickly.

    Is people will jump on Win 7 like a a crack
    addict on his pipe yes... time will tell who
    was right and who was wrong .... ill bet you a
    beer that in less that 6 week more and more
    will spit on win7
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    Quebec-french
    21st Oct 2009
  • Spit on 7?
    Why?
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Cylon Centurion
    21st Oct 2009
  • ZDNet Gravatar
    Sleeper Service
    21st Oct 2009
  • well on that
    i have been a technician/server admin/data
    manager for more that 10 years before that
    i was a autodidact tech and user / repair man
    for also 10 -and some dust years ..... i have
    pretty well what i am doing .... when i say
    that win 7 deserve a spit on .... for a company
    as big powerful super on the edge of thing
    ....


    and we test win 7 for a few month and you end
    up with trouble in maya 2008-2009 photoshop 4
    xsi, you have trouble with nvidia driver and
    how they get manage , ram allocation bug ..
    and the rest, like IE8 and its integration in
    multiple appz. well .... if i have no idea
    on what im writing then prove other wise
    chummy


    Its easy to run your big mouth prove other
    wise say that photoshop have no issue with win
    7 please i will laugh at you face
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    Quebec-french
    21st Oct 2009
  • Really?
    "and we test win 7 for a few month"


    Oh I see. The Beta as in 'unfinished version'.

    "and you end up with trouble in maya 2008-2009 photoshop 4 xsi"

    Uh... the issue with Maya is down to Autodesk. You'll note that they still have issues with XP SP3 too.

    If you were actually a tech admin running this product you would know Autodesk are currently testing implementation of Maya 2009 and Maya 2010 on Windows 7.

    "you have trouble with nvidia driver and
    how they get manage"

    Specifically what drivers? Because nVidia solved the big issues with the betas of 181.71 in March 2009. Again you should know this if you are what you say you are.

    "ram allocation bug"

    Ah. The RAM allocation method touted as a bug by the hopelessly discredited Randall Kennedy back in August which was universally shown to be a non-issue.

    OK, let's face facts:

    You are not and probably never have been a system admin because you don't know the products you administer. What you actually are is a strange individual who looks up random faults on the internet with Microsoft products and then posts them but doesn't have the intelligence to check them out.

    Your story is full of holes. Go away, you fraud.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Sleeper Service
    21st Oct 2009
  • keep it to yourself
    who care what you think
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Quebec-french
    21st Oct 2009
  • ZDNet Gravatar
    Quebec-french
    21st Oct 2009
  • No one cares, Quebec.
    You've proved yourself to be a liar and a fraud.

    Now go away. No one cares for charlatans like you.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Sleeper Service
    22nd Oct 2009

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